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Goose's look at safeties


Hall of Fame scribe Rick "Goose" Gosselin focused on safeties in today's edition of his draft preview.
LSU's LaRon Landry will be long gone by No. 22, so that leaves three candidates if the Cowboys want to pick a safety in the first round: Florida's Reggie Nelson, Texas' Michael Griffin and Miami's Brandon Meriweather.


Let me go on the record as saying I don't think Griffin is first-round material. He really struggled without Michael Huff by his side last season and was a major reason the Longhorns ranked 99th in the nation -- and next to last in the Big 12 -- in pass defense.


Griffin is great in run support and will make some plays in the passing game, but he blew way too many coverages to give up big plays without Huff directing traffic for UT. He'd be an awful fit next to Roy Williams.
Follow the jump to read a mid-season story by our UT beat writer Chip Brown that details Griffin's struggles.


AUSTIN - Texas senior safety Michael Griffin, who became a national star with a critical interception against USC in the Rose Bowl, came into the season as perhaps the top awards candidate on his team.


On Monday, he found himself defending his role in a secondary that has given up big play after big play with a road trip to pass-happy Texas Tech up next. He answered questions about whether he truly loves the game and responded to his critics.


"I can't change the past," he said. "I can only go from here and believe in myself and believe in my teammates and have my teammates believe in me."


Griffin missed tackles on two Nebraska touchdowns Saturday and got fooled on a trick play that led to another score. Those three plays accounted for 137 of Nebraska's 340 yards and all 20 of its points.


It's been a season of turmoil for the secondary.


Griffin was assigned to Ohio State receiver Anthony Gonzalez on half of the eight receptions Gonzalez had for 142 yards in the Buckeyes' victory over Texas. He was also supposed to be the stabilizing force in a secondary that lost 2005 Thorpe Award winner Michael Huff, a first-round draft pick, and cornerback Cedric Griffin, a second-round pick.


He admitted to being overwhelmed in the Ohio State game because cornerback Tarell Brown was suspended and because his twin brother, Marcus, the team's other safety, missed significant time with an ankle injury. They have combined to miss five games this season. Last year, no one in the secondary missed any time.


"He lost some buddies back there who were really good players, guys who are now playing on Sunday," coach Mack Brown said, referring to Huff and Cedric Griffin.


"Michael's been the old man back there having to put out fires," Brown said. "And it does affect you. But I'm proud of the way he's hung in there and taken the heat. I don't think we're giving him enough credit. He hasn't had much help because everyone's been hurt."


Griffin's been a wizard on special teams. He's largely responsible for Texas' ranking No. 2 nationally in punt return defense (allowing 1.8 yards per return) and shares the school record for blocked kicks (seven).
But the bottom line is that Griffin was expected to take up where Huff left off. Coaches say Huff had a gift for reading the offense and lining up the secondary - a role Griffin has struggled with.


Griffin said Monday he and Huff are totally different players and no longer should be compared.


"Huff is more of a cover guy," Griffin said. "He always wanted to play corner. I'm a strong safety. If it was a hard run formation, Huff wanted me in the box and him in the middle of the field. If it was a pass formation, he went out and covered, and I played free safety. It's hard with the new guys we've had in there this season for them to understand how we did it last year."


Griffin said the defense's focus on stopping the run is going to lead to some big plays in the passing game.


"We're No. 2 in rushing defense, and if you look, the corners and safeties are very involved," Griffin said.


Co-defensive coordinator Gene Chizik disagreed with that reasoning. "I think you can play sound everywhere," Chizik said.


Chizik said Griffin needs to "play more consistently."


"He's done a lot of really good things," Chizik said. "He's very physical against the run, and our safeties are very involved in our success on run defense.


"I think he's settled down a lot since he stopped worrying about what everyone else is trying to do. We've tried to get some continuity back there. But sometimes there's different guys back there."


Griffin has repeatedly said he spends his free time breeding pit bulls, not studying film or thinking about football. But he said Monday he is passionate about the game.


"I love playing the game," he said. "I'm blessed to have this ability to play. A lot of people would love to be in my position."


For those who have been quick to criticize Griffin - especially on Internet message boards (because he's been reading) - he shot back with this: "Can you do better?"


Griffin said the defense is working hard to correct its problems.


"Things are going to be said, but as long as we're winning and we win a Big 12 championship or we make it to the Big 12 game or whatever happens in the future, I'm pretty sure these opinions are going to flip-flop all over the place."




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How does Goose look at the safety’s in this draft ? He only mentions a few by name and then goes on and talks about Griffin.
 

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JPM;1457373 said:
How does Goose look at the safety’s in this draft ? He only mentions a few by name and then goes on and talks about Griffin.

Click on the first link in the article.

Draft position preview: Safeties

01:39 AM CDT on Monday, April 16, 2007

By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News
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STRENGTH: 8
WEAK STRONG

Quick take: Only twice in the last 25 drafts have as many as three safeties gone in the first round. There are four with first-round potential in 2007.

Rk., Player School Ht. Wt.
1. x-LaRon Landry LSU 6-0½ 213
NOTEWORTHY: 4.36 speed in the 40
2. x-Reggie Nelson Florida 5-11 198
NOTEWORTHY: 4.35 speed in the 40
3. x-Michael Griffin Texas 5-11½ 202
NOTEWORTHY: 364 career tackles
4. x-Brandon Meriweather Miami 5-10½ 195
NOTEWORTHY: 4.47 speed in the 40
5. Eric Weddle Utah 5-11 203
NOTEWORTHY: 7 interceptions in 2006
6. Tanard Jackson Syracuse 6-0 195
NOTEWORTHY: Converted CB
7. Gerald Alexander Boise St 6-0 210
NOTEWORTHY: Converted CB
8. Sabby Piscitelli Oregon State 6-2½ 224
NOTEWORTHY: 4.47 speed in the 40
9. Michael Johnson Arizona 6-2½ 205
NOTEWORTHY: Former juco All-America
10. Aaron Rouse Virginia Tech 6-4 223
NOTEWORTHY: Converted LB
11. Dashon Goldson Washington 6-1½ 202
NOTEWORTHY: Converted CB
12. Marvin White TCU 6-1 199
NOTEWORTHY: 4.47 speed in the 40
13. Eric Frampton Washington State 5-11 204
NOTEWORTHY: 100 tackles in 2006
14. John Wendling Wyoming 6-1 222
NOTEWORTHY: 18 career interceptions
15. Chinedum Ndukwe Notre Dame 6-1½ 206
NOTEWORTHY: Recovered 6 career fumbles
x-Potential first-round pick

Spotlight on: Brandon Meriweather, Miami

Brandon Meriweather has an edge over LaRon Landry, Reggie Nelson and the other top safeties on this draft board.

Meriweather went to the University of Miami, where there's a strong NFL tradition at the position. Draft a Hurricane safety high and you know you're getting an elite player.

Bennie Blades was the third overall pick of the 1988 draft and Sean Taylor the fifth choice of the 2004 draft. Ed Reed was a late first-rounder in 2002. All three went to Pro Bowls.

"We've had some great safeties," Meriweather said. "But just because we have a history at the school doesn't mean you're going to be a great safety yourself. You still have to produce."

That's been Meriweather's history at Miami. A three-year starter, he broke Blades' career record for solo tackles with 182. He leaves Miami with 289 career tackles, so he can support the run much like Blades did. Meriweather also got his hands on 31 passes – intercepting seven and breaking up 24 others – so he has ball skills like Reed.

"He's a great safety, and I want to be a great safety," Meriweather said. "But my game and his game are total different. He's more of a sit-back 20 yards deep and pick everything off [guy]. I'm more of a sit at 10 yards and hit you in the mouth. I want to be more of a Steve Atwater/Ronnie Lott, and he wants to be more ... Ed Reed."
The best

LaRon Landry, LSU

What's not to like about Landry? He can run (4.36 40), catch (12 career interceptions) and tackle (315 in his career). He also has the pedigree. His brother Dawan was a fifth-round pick of the Baltimore Ravens last season and started at safety as a rookie on the NFL's No. 1-ranked defense. Landry also brings experience. He led the team in tackles three times and was a two-time All-SEC selection.
Sleeper

Will Herring, Auburn

Playing in the shadow of Landry, Herring (6-2½, 209) was twice a second-team All-SEC selection. He led the Tigers in tackles twice and finished second once. Herring was 30-6 as a high school quarterback and played linebacker at Auburn before moving to safety. He's another four-year starter.
Best of Texas

1. Michael Griffin, Texas

Griffin plays the game with ferocity. He led the Longhorns in tackles each of the last two seasons and set a school record with eight career blocked punts. He forced nine career fumbles, tops at his position on this draft board, and recovered seven others.

Draft projection: First two rounds.

2. Michael Johnson, Arizona (and Austin)

Draft projection: Mid-rounds.

3. Melvin Bullitt, Texas A&M

Draft projection: Late rounds.
Notable

■ IRON MEN: Will Herring set an Auburn record with 49 consecutive starts. LaRon Landry started the final 48 games of his career at LSU, and John Wendling started his final 47 games at Wyoming.

■ DEFENSIVE WEAPON: Eric Weddle was a two-time Mountain West defensive player of the year at Utah. But there's a decided offensive edge to his game. Weddle also took some snaps at quarterback last season and wound up accounting for nine touchdowns on five rushes, two interceptions, one fumble return and a pass. He became the first player in school history to score on back-to-back plays when he rushed for a 2-yard touchdown against San Diego State and then returned an interception 30 yards on the next snap.

■ THE DREMEL: Kenny Payne of Louisiana-Monroe is to a football team what a Dremel is to a tool box. He's a multi-use player. Payne was recruited as a running back and set a school freshman rushing record with 976 yards. He started on offense his first two years, rushing for 1,237 yards, catching 54 passes and earning second-team All-Sun Belt honors. He also threw a 35-yard touchdown pass on a halfback option. He moved to safety as a junior and collected 185 tackles and six interceptions in his two years on defense, earning All-Sun Belt honors in 2006. He returned 24 career kickoffs an average 25.2 yards and punted in 2006, averaging 40.6 yards on 46 kicks. In high school, he was an all-state catcher and averaged 16.6 points on the basketball court. Payne can fill a lot of slots.

■ ALL IN THE FAMILY: LaRon Landry isn't the only safety in this draft with family roots in the NFL. Arizona's Michael Johnson is the younger brother of former Texas A&M Aggie Reggie Brown, a first-round pick by the Detroit Lions in 1996 whose career ended tragically with a broken neck. Also, Oregon's J.D. Nelson is the son of former Vikings running back Darrin Nelson, and Stanford's David Lofton is the son of Hall of Fame wide receiver James Lofton.

■ GOLDEN HANDS: The safety position has evolved in recent years from players who specialize in run support to those with ballhawking skills. The game is now played with the ball in the air, so the NFL is searching for safeties with coverage abilities. Here's a list of the safeties who got their hands on the most footballs in their careers:

Player School PD Int PBU
Sabby Piscitelli Oregon State 43 15 28
Eric Weddle Utah 41 18 23
LaRon Landry LSU 40 12 28
Gerald Alexander Boise State 36 9 27
Michael Griffin Texas 31 8 23
Brandon Meriweather Miami 31 7 24
Josh Gattis Wake Forest 29 12 17
Leonard Peters Hawaii 27 7 20
Dashon Goldson Washington 26 4 22
Eric Frampton Washington State 24 6 18
PD-passes defensed, INT-interceptions, PBU-passes broken up

■ NOT ALL BRAWN: The NFL looks for smart players at safety – quick thinkers who can patch holes at the back end of a defense on the move. That makes Wyoming's John Wendling attractive on draft day. He's a four-time academic All-Mountain West and a Draddy Award finalist (the academic Heisman). Craig Dahl of North Dakota State was a three-time academic All-Great West and Brandon Mitchell an academic All-Big Ten pick in 2006.

■ SPRING STARS: Josh Gattis of Wake Forest was a North Carolina state 300-meter hurdles champion in high school. Brandon Mitchell of Ohio State was a Georgia state 400-meter champion, and John Wendling of Wyoming a state long jump champion in Wyoming.

■ SENIOR CITIZEN: Leonard Peters was a three-year starter for Hawaii but spread his career out over six seasons. Peters took a medical redshirt in 2001 with a knee injury, then missed the 2005 season with another knee injury. He was awarded a sixth season of eligibility by the NCAA in 2006 and finished up his career with second-team All-WAC honors, collecting 68 tackles and three interceptions.

■ CHOICE THEFTS: Notre Dame safety Chinedum Ndukwe intercepted only four career passes – but one came against 2004 Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart of Southern California, another came against Drew Stanton of Michigan State, who projects as a high pick in this draft, and another came against Chad Henne of Michigan, who projects as a high pick in the 2008 draft.
 

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Cbz40;1457337 said:
April 16, 2007


Goose's look at safeties


Hall of Fame scribe Rick "Goose" Gosselin focused on safeties in today's edition of his draft preview.
LSU's LaRon Landry will be long gone by No. 22, so that leaves three candidates if the Cowboys want to pick a safety in the first round: Florida's Reggie Nelson, Texas' Michael Griffin and Miami's Brandon Meriweather.


Let me go on the record as saying I don't think Griffin is first-round material. He really struggled without Michael Huff by his side last season and was a major reason the Longhorns ranked 99th in the nation -- and next to last in the Big 12 -- in pass defense.


Griffin is great in run support and will make some plays in the passing game, but he blew way too many coverages to give up big plays without Huff directing traffic for UT. He'd be an awful fit next to Roy Williams.


There are obvious concerns with Griffin in the passing game. In my opinion, there are also concerns in the running game.

Griffin is not great in run support. I often watched him take poor angles and he missed lots of tackles when one on one. Darren Woodson was a great tackler. I rarely saw him miss an open field tackle. Sure it happened because it happens to every player, but he made the tackle way more times than he missed. That is why he is the Cowboys all time leading tackler.

I did not see Griffin do at the college level and don't expect him to do it at the next level when everyone is fast, quick and strong. He is a decent tackler, but not great. I think any team that gets him will be dissappointed.
 

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Wasn't Meriweather one of the guys that guy suspended during the brawl they had this year and not only that, wasn't he the one caught swinging his helmet?

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1457391 said:
Wasn't Meriweather one of the guys that guy suspended during the brawl they had this year and not only that, wasn't he the one caught swinging his helmet?

- Mike G.

No he was the one stomping on the guys head as he was on the ground. Real class act. :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;1457402 said:
No he was the one stomping on the guys head as he was on the ground. Real class act. :laugh2:

Yes, all class at that school.

“Now, that’s what I’m talking about. You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked. You don’t come into the OB playing that stuff. You’re across the ocean over there. You’re across the city. You can’t come over to our place talking noise like that. You’ll get your butt beat. I was about to go down the elevator to get in that thing.”--Lamar Thomas
 

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joseephuss;1457410 said:
Yes, all class at that school.

“Now, that’s what I’m talking about. You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked. You don’t come into the OB playing that stuff. You’re across the ocean over there. You’re across the city. You can’t come over to our place talking noise like that. You’ll get your butt beat. I was about to go down the elevator to get in that thing.”--Lamar Thomas

The action by the school was deplorable. When the president of the school does not want to see the video tape because it may influence her?
 

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Cool.

From what I have read, the Meriweather seems to be a pretty good player. I really don't know his history before "The Brawl", so I dont know if that was just one of many boneheaded decisions while at Miami.

As for the schools' response, I think people have to remember that these guys are 18-21 years, which to me they are kids (even though im 28), and I think that has to be taken into consideration when you are potentially going to make a decision that could hurt them for the rest of their life.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1457432 said:
Cool.

From what I have read, the Meriweather seems to be a pretty good player. I really don't know his history before "The Brawl", so I dont know if that was just one of many boneheaded decisions while at Miami.

As for the schools' response, I think people have to remember that these guys are 18-21 years, which to me they are kids (even though im 28), and I think that has to be taken into consideration when you are potentially going to make a decision that could hurt them for the rest of their life.

- Mike G.

That is a good point, but for the president of the univeristy to not even watch the tape was dumb. How could she make a fair punishiment if she does not have the full story? The other school had no problems in disciplining their young men in a way that won't ruin their lives.
 

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i have a question... if it wasnt for character and the video of merriweather stomping a player... would merriweather be the 1st safety taken??
 

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I'm kind of intriqued with this Eric Weddle guy out of Utah. I've been reading alot about him lately and he sounds like a solid safety.
 

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Wendling seems like he might be a good mid-round find. I'd heard he was just a strong safety-type, but if you look at his workout numbers, he seems pretty athletic, too. And like Goose says, high intelligence can't hurt.
 
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