News: DMN: Machota: Cowboys' most pressing issues and why there's no way I would let Garrett go

TheDude

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Right or wrong, I interpreted "works well with jerri" to mean Jason didn't/doesn't appear to be a power hungry coach bent on forcibly being known as the guy in charge and seeking personal credit in the process. My thought/hope was that if Garrett could be a good coach that didn't mind jerri running his mouth and taking credit for things he didn't do, then perhaps it could work because it was an obvious deal killer between jerri and Jimmy and to a similar extend with Parcels, so much so that how the public dispensing of credit would be allocated if a Super Bowl was won were addressed and made part of Parcels contract before he was hired.

Best answer I have read. right or wrong.

I still think many coaches would know/be told/expect the culture and need to be aware of that before coming on board. I thought Wade "worked well" with Jerry in this case, so did Switzer.
 

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Best answer I have read. right or wrong.

I still think many coaches would know/be told/expect the culture and need to be aware of that before coming on board. I thought Wade "worked well" with Jerry in this case, so did Switzer.

agreed, it doesn't appear they were very head good coaches, at least not good enough to compete against their peers at the NFL level and I'm starting to lose hope Garrett is much better, if at all, I'm pretty convinced Garrett is woefully lacking in the "x & o" department vs his peers but at least that can be outsourced (my last ounce of hope lies here). I'm certain jerri can't hold a candle vs his peers in the GM role and that's never going to improve (sorry, could help myself, gotta get in a good jerri dig whenever I can, its the only solace I have left).
 

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I completely agree that he's responsible for the defensive miscues, too. But the reality is there had been a personnel problem there during those earlier seasons that explains the 8-8s. Which is why his supporters aren't forgetting them. They're viewing them in context.

He did blow the hiring of Rob Ryan. I said so at the time. And Monte Kiffen was a bizarre mistake, too. He took longer than he should have to organize his staff, but it wasn't that the team under performed to 8-8. They were about where they should have been during those years. Fans just don't like to hear it.

12-4 was about where the revised roster with a healthy Romo belonged. Then this year happened. The QB problems I understand. I don't like it, we were caught with pants down there and should not have been, but there's a legitimate shortage of starting QBs in the league.

It's the defensive takeaway problem I don't get. That's Garrett's responsibility, too, and not fixing it will cost him his job next season and rightfully so. But I do wish I had a better explanation for why it happened. There are so many reasons a team or a unit can underperform. The coach gets responsibility for all of them, but not all of them are necessarily in his control.

In 2011
  • Ratliff and Ware each played 16 games in 2011. Ware had 19.5 sacks. Spears, Anthony Spencer, Jason Hatcher rounded out the Dline.
  • Sean Lee played 15 games had 4 picks, Bradie James, Carter and Butler werent an atrocious talent suck
  • Scandrick, Newman, Jenkins, Walker, Ball was made up of 2 1st rounders and Scandrick who is still considered the best and fastest corner
  • For Safety - Sensabugh, Abe Elam, Church, Allan Ball, McCray, Silva
Looking at that position group only one group (continually) stands out as below NFL average.

The defense wasnt void of talent in 2010 or 2011.
  • 16 in scoring D
  • 25 in Opp Passer rating
  • 8 in sacks
  • 15 in INT
  • 16 in takeaways per game
Not great, but I would think at least it is average performance from at least an average (if not better than avg) defense (on paper).

My theory is that offensive scoring drives turnovers to a degree. If a team knows it has to take no risks and play it close, they will. However, the defense still has to catch it (i.e. atlanta and NO game, etc)

IN general, outside of last year, this team never started fast. IN 2012, we hadnt scored more than 10 points in the first half in the first 15 games. At worst the other team isnt gonna force things if they are always within a score. 2013 and 14 things began to change - ranked 5th in points and 1st half points and had a 12 and 2 ranking in turnovers respectively. Turnover rank in 2011, 2012, 2015 - 16, 30, 32 - Pts ranked in 2011,2012,2015 - 5, 14, 31.
Not scientific but a theory and why I thought the corner was turned last year since points were up. But this year even in NY, Philly, Mia and Car the slow starts came back. Anyway, the margin for error is razor thin in the NFL for 95% of the teams. If you are not figuring out ways to score and get every advantage possible from scheme, etc, you end up pretty average (absent a Brady/Rodgers, etc)
 

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How can you say your running off coaches when Garrett has been here for eight years? He's the only one Jerry hasn't run off..

It's Garrett running off coaches to save his own skin..

His homers act like he's been here only one year proof to this disaster.

Funny, I remember saying that if Jerry fired Garrett...people would say that he runs off coaches. And I was told that no way would that happen.






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the margin for error is razor thin in the NFL for 95% of the teams. If you are not figuring out ways to score and get every advantage possible from scheme, etc, you end up pretty average (absent a Brady/Rodgers, etc)

Hence, 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . and thats with Romo

And that razor thin margin is exactly why Garrett will never be anything but average.
 

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It was an injury to the QB that impacted our passing effectiveness, and a dramatic downturn in our ability to take the ball away, which made it a lot easier for other teams to pass effectively against us.

I'm not sure how much either of those things had to do with luck, but you guys seem to prefer answering pretend arguments nobody's making and ignoring the ones people actually put forward to discussing the actual causes.

It's a shame, because I think the takeaway problem is an interesting one. It ought to let you take more shots at the coaching, if nothing else. And there are lots of other angles that might come into play that we could maybe complain about, as well. It seems like we're maybe missing a golden opportunity here. Maybe we'll be able to get into it during the offseason, eventually.

It was a joke Idgit..................doesn't anybody on here have a sense of humor anymore?

If you want to be serious, then yes, Romo getting hurt most defiently hurt our ability to pass the ball. However, both Steven and Jerry have both said that going 1-11 with the backup QBs is unacceptable. Is the scheme too Romo-dependent? Are adjustments not being made for the other QBs? Why are other teams using multiple QBs and winning games and yet Dallas is unable to? The Houston Texans used 5 different starting QBs this season and won their division, yet Dallas used 4 starting QBs and ended up 4-12, why? Jerry said he could not explain it when asked.

Steven Jones has said that QB is the number one priority this offseason and that they have to be able to win games if Romo goes down. He indicated that they would be looking at everything from the schemes being used to the personnel, including being open to using the 4th overall pick on a young QB.

The takeaways on defense is a separate issue, but an important one as well. The same evaluation is going to be done on that side of the ball and questions will be asked if it is the schemes or the personnel? If the problem is schemes, then you will probably see some new position coaches that will teach a different technique, especially for the CBs. The issue is also one of personnel, with players like Mincey, Hardy, McClain, Claiborne, Carr, Wilcox, and Church being prime candidates to move on or be released.
 
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