News: DMN: National writer: Cowboys could be 'great fit' for DE Robert Nkemdiche if he falls to pick...

Chuck 54 · Mar 28, 2016

He'd be a great selection at #34.

Personally, I think he could make the switch and be a dominant DE.

Idgit · Mar 28, 2016

btcutter said:
Sure, I consider taking a flyer on him in the third round depending on who else is on the draft board. But I am sure not going to spend my 2nd rounder on an underachiever who have red flags.

This is where I think he comes into play, too, if he comes into play at all.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

Idgit said:
This is where I think he comes into play, too, if he comes into play at all.

I disagree, and won't black bean a kid with some real football ability. College is a different world from the professional ranks, and with his set, he at least has a chance of adapting and growing to that level. 2nd round would be a defined fall...just as with Gregory. We're still banking on him, and rightfully so.

Idgit · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
I disagree, and won't black bean a kid with some real football ability. College is a different world from the professional ranks, and with his set, he at least has a chance of adapting and growing to that level. 2nd round would be a defined fall...just as with Gregory. We're still banking on him, and rightfully so.

I think he'll get drafted by somebody in the 2nd. It just wouldn't be me.

But my knocks on the kid aren't just for the pot/falling out of a window incidents. There are a couple of factors. 1, the chance we took on Gregory did not pay off early on. 2, there are a lot of good DLs in this draft, so teams in the market for one are going to have options. 3, Nkemdiche also has a reputation for being lazy on some plays and there are questions about how important football is to him. This last one is the reason why I personally don't think Dallas would take a chance on him in the 2nd. As athletically talented as he is, he's too big of a risk there where there are other very good players who are much safer picks.

In the third round, however, he's in the territory where Gregory was when we took the chance on him. If we're going to do it at all, that's where we ought to do it: where he's a clear value over every other player on the board.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

Idgit said:
I think he'll get drafted by somebody in the 2nd. It just wouldn't be me.

But my knocks on the kid aren't just for the pot/falling out of a window incidents. There are a couple of factors. 1, the chance we took on Gregory did not pay off early on. 2, there are a lot of good DLs in this draft, so teams in the market for one are going to have options. 3, Nkemdiche also has a reputation for being lazy on some plays and there are questions about how important football is to him. This last one is the reason why I personally don't think Dallas would take a chance on him in the 2nd. As athletically talented as he is, he's too big of a risk there where there are other very good players who are much safer picks.

In the third round, however, he's in the territory where Gregory was when we took the chance on him. If we're going to do it at all, that's where we ought to do it: where he's a clear value over every other player on the board.

I agree on the reasons why he brings up some questions. No argument. He does possess enough talent, despite arguments, that they warrant a little higher level of acceptance...for a kid becoming a 'rook.'

Collins had some serious issues at the beginning of last season, so different sides of issues are there as well...and Collins hit home on a homerun.

Idgit · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
I agree on the reasons why he brings up some questions. No argument. He does possess enough talent, despite arguments, that they warrant a little higher level of acceptance...for a kid becoming a 'rook.'

Collins had some serious issues at the beginning of last season, so different sides of issues are there as well...and Collins hit home on a homerun.

Taking the chance on Collins cost us nothing. Taking a chance on Nkemdiche could cost us a really good player elsewhere. I'd be all for Nkemdiche as a CFA, though.

DC Cowboy · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
I agree on the reasons why he brings up some questions. No argument. He does possess enough talent, despite arguments, that they warrant a little higher level of acceptance...for a kid becoming a 'rook.'

Collins had some serious issues at the beginning of last season, so different sides of issues are there as well...and Collins hit home on a homerun.

Didn't Collins coach post a sign with his name and other players on it for being lazy? IF he is there at #34, I would grab him without hesitation. there isn't a 100 % guarantee for any player.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

DC Cowboy said:
Didn't Collins coach post a sign with his name and other players on it for being lazy? IF he is there at #34, I would grab him without hesitation. there isn't a 100 % guarantee for any player.

I didn't follow all of those details beyond hoping the kid came clean on the murder investigations...sorry, I just don't know those details.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

Idgit said:
Taking the chance on Collins cost us nothing. Taking a chance on Nkemdiche could cost us a really good player elsewhere. I'd be all for Nkemdiche as a CFA, though.

Second round is where during the near past, if a player fell for reasons, and was still quite a talent, the gamble was taken there. If he isn't on the board, that goes to evaluations of character and criminal activity beyond casual interplay.

Idgit · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
Second round is where during the near past, if a player fell for reasons, and was still quite a talent, the gamble was taken there. If he isn't on the board, that goes to evaluations of character and criminal activity beyond casual interplay.

Generally speaking, you're right. But we're sitting at 34 in that round. Too many good players left in those top 5 picks of the second round. Somebody good with no character concerns is going to be there.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

Idgit said:
Generally speaking, you're right. But we're sitting at 34 in that round. Too many good players left in those top 5 picks of the second round. Somebody good with no character concerns is going to be there.

Valid reason...

JoeyBoy718 · Mar 28, 2016

Give me Rankins. He produces. Could be another Aaron Donald.

Idgit · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
Valid reason...

Don't get me wrong, either. I can see the guy becoming a beast in the NFL, too. He's just a risk at a pick where I want a higher degree of certainty.

CCBoy · Mar 28, 2016

Idgit said:
Don't get me wrong, either. I can see the guy becoming a beast in the NFL, too. He's just a risk at a pick where I want a higher degree of certainty.

Oh man, I'm already crying in my beer about missing out possibly, on Rankins.

Bizwah · Mar 28, 2016

DC Cowboy said:
Didn't Collins coach post a sign with his name and other players on it for being lazy? IF he is there at #34, I would grab him without hesitation. there isn't a 100 % guarantee for any player.

No.... That was the year before. Collins was questioned about a murder. He then stated he would sit out if he wasn't drafted early. A statement which was later retracted. Totally different situations.

Floatyworm · Mar 28, 2016

CCBoy said:
Oh man, I'm already crying in my beer about missing out possibly, on Rankins.

Remind you of Warren Sapp? I think he is taylor made for this defense....and you kick Tyrone back out to LDE.

LDE-Crawford/Russell/Mayowa
3tech-Rankins/Irvin
NT-Thornton/Draft pick
RDE-Lawerence/Gregory

Floatyworm · Mar 28, 2016

Rather interesting news.....Look who was hanging out @ the Ole Miss Pro day :omg:

waving monkey · Mar 28, 2016

JoeyBoy718 said:
Give me Rankins. He produces. Could be another Aaron Donald.

what about Billings

JoeyBoy718 · Mar 28, 2016

waving monkey said:
what about Billings

More of a project but definitely a high ceiling. Rankins is someone who I could see winning rookie of the year. Billings could have the best career though.

kazzd58 · Mar 28, 2016

He was #1 overall at certain points in the season so it's up to him on the off field but I'll gladly take a chance in 2nd y i'll look at it like this

you saw what he did against Alabama yes he didn't have a lot of stats but teams did recognize him and they did payed attention to him so that means is 1on 1 opportunity for other people

I'm looking at it I don't know but he could've just been bored or playing safe in a way idk but you saw what he did against Alabama and that's pretty much like the closest test you'll get to an NFL caliber team you saw what He did so now when you're in the NFL and this is how you make your living who knows but me

I'd happily draft him in 2nd if he's there absolutely take that chance and he wasn't the only one in the room so are other teams gonna drop Tunsil too? No there not

But NFL gonna hv to legalize marijuana eventually imo

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