DMN: Roger Staubach: Cowboys are 'lucky' to have a 'championship' QB like Tony Romo

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ufcrules1;5103566 said:
To you it was just one random game, to me it was for the division and the playoffs. THAT my friend is when you need to shine as a QB. Romo played fine the 3 games previous to this one but then all the sudden he forgets how to play vs. Washington with EVERYTHING on the line, division, playoffs, and his reputation as a top QB in the league. Keep in mind this was against the 30th ranked passing defense in the league! 200 yards and 3 ints.

Has nothing to do with a random game Romo played bad in that game he has also played very well in some big games. Some we have ended up losing and some we have won.

I like RGIII but he is not having to throw the ball 600 times within a season they run the ball and they do so very effectively in doing that RGIII see a lot fo 2nd short and 3rd and short situations which keeps defense off balance.

But again you really do not seem to understand the game and how other things impact games. You focus on QB without taking other factors into account and those factors matter
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5103622 said:
Don't agree with this. Aikman was the backbone of that team. As for Roger, he excuted Landry's plan. The Defense might have been better but the plan was better as well. The Offense didn't hurt the defense with field position or turnovers regularly. That's a great deal of why the defense was better.

I guess you didn't watch much of Aikmans, Irvins games. It was Irvin that was the heart of that team, not Aikman.
 

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ufcrules1;5103317 said:
It could have been altered vs. the Commanders if 1 person wouldn't have buried his team. We could have won the division and had a playoff game at home if it weren't for one person blowing that game. Sure it typically takes a team, but don't kid yourself, one person can kill a team if he doesn't at least do his part. Also, one person can highly motivate a team. Look at '12 Colts, they went from 2-14 to 11-5 WITH NO RUNNING GAME, and a rookie QB. You think Luck might have had something to do with that?




I think Romo is mentally weak right along with several other players on the team. He has played bad football in the most crucial games. The Cowboys currently have a weak culture that needs to badly go away. A QB who is a leader and can motivate those around him to step up their games could have a big influence on the team and it's attitude.

Colts had the 22nd rated running game. Not great but much better than the Cowboys at #31.
 

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AmberBeer;5103761 said:
I guess you didn't watch much of Aikmans, Irvins games. It was Irvin that was the heart of that team, not Aikman.

That's what you guess? Somehow, I'm not shocked that this is the conclusion you would come to.


I'm not wrong in my earlier statement. Aikman was the backbone of that team. He was the guy who supported Irvin when he was in trouble with the Law. He was the guy who went to to Jerry and told him he needed to sign Emmitt in his hold out year. He was the guy who took a backseat in order for the running game to play a major role in that offense and he was the guy who, when the lights shown brightest, played biggest. He was the guy who held the team together for the 95 Super Bowl run, after Jimmy left. He was the backbone of the team.

If you don't agree, that's fine with me but it doesn't mean I'm incorrect.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5103781 said:
That's what you guess? Somehow, I'm not shocked that this is the conclusion you would come to.


I'm not wrong in my earlier statement. Aikman was the backbone of that team. He was the guy who supported Irvin when he was in trouble with the Law. He was the guy who went to to Jerry and told him he needed to sign Emmitt in his hold out year. He was the guy who took a backseat in order for the running game to play a major role in that offense and he was the guy who, when the lights shown brightest, played biggest. He was the guy who held the team together for the 95 Super Bowl run, after Jimmy left. He was the backbone of the team.

If you don't agree, that's fine with me but it doesn't mean I'm incorrect.

And if you don't agree with me, it doesn't mean I'm incorrect either. There's no doubt that Irvin was the heart and soul of those teams, IMO.
 

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AmberBeer;5103839 said:
And if you don't agree with me, it doesn't mean I'm incorrect either. There's no doubt that Irvin was the heart and soul of those teams, IMO.
And who gave him the ball? There's no doubt Irvin sabotaged the Cowboy's chances to win a SB in 1996 with his off field problems. That's a fact. I like Michael and I liked the way he would fire up the team but come on. lol
 

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PA Cowboy Fan;5103845 said:
And who gave him the ball? There's no doubt Irvin sabotaged the Cowboy's chances to win a SB in 1996 with his off field problems. That's a fact. I like Michael and I liked the way he would fire up the team but come on. lol

I would say Mike was the heart of the Cowboys you could see it at training camp in Austin when guys were wearing out it was Mike running around hollering at guys this is the 4th qrt lets go.

Troy however I think as ABQCOWBOY put it was the backbone of the Cowboys. Very no non-sense in his approach

and Emmitt was the Work Horse.
 

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AmberBeer;5103839 said:
And if you don't agree with me, it doesn't mean I'm incorrect either. There's no doubt that Irvin was the heart and soul of those teams, IMO.

The problem here is that I never said Aikman was the "Heart and Soul". I said he was the backbone and those are two very different things in my mind.

The Heart and Soul is the guy who jumps up and down in the locker room and gets guys excited. The Backbone is the guy who holds the team together. A guy who stands up and makes the hard calls when needed. He's the leader and that was not Irvin.
 

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Doomsday101;5103848 said:
I would say Mike was the heart of the Cowboys you could see it at training camp in Austin when guys were wearing out it was Mike running around hollering at guys this is the 4th qrt lets go.

Troy however I think as ABQCOWBOY put it was the backbone of the Cowboys. Very no non-sense in his approach

and Emmitt was the Work Horse.

Exactly right Dooms.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5103850 said:
Exactly right Dooms.

I got a kick out of Training camp at St Edwards. It would be in the 100's during the afternoon paractice and you could see guys starting to drag but then #88 was out there running around hollering at guys keeping the pumped up and as I said telling them this is it this is the 4th qrt lets go.
 

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Doomsday101;5103853 said:
I got a kick out of Training camp at St Edwards. It would be in the 100's during the afternoon paractice and you could see guys starting to drag but then #88 was out there running around hollering at guys keeping the pumped up and as I said telling them this is it this is the 4th qrt lets go.

And he wouldn't let players slack off. He would always be on their butts . Defensive players also.
 

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AmberBeer;5103861 said:
And he wouldn't let players slack off. He would always be on their butts . Defensive players also.

I agree. Mike was the heart of that team. To this day the passion Mike shows may look corny at times but it is real it is who he is. It was never an act or a need for attention.
 

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AmberBeer;5103861 said:
And he wouldn't let players slack off. He would always be on their butts . Defensive players also.

Yup, loved/love that guy. I hope that Dez can follow in his footsteps (on the field) anyway.
 

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PA Cowboy Fan;5103118 said:
He does look like an elite QB against bad teams.

Gameover;5103441 said:
Bad teams aren't capable of making him play honest(make him beat you inside the pocket.Romo likes it when he can play sandlot football.), good teams are.
These are Romo's career numbers (playoffs included) against all opponents which could possibly be considered "good teams."

vs teams 13-3 or better
7 games 150 of 232 for 2,052 13 td 3 int 106.1

vs teams 12-4 or better
11 games 230 of 356 for 2,930 16 td 8 int 95.8

vs teams 11-5 or better
18 games 403 of 634 for 4.920 26 td 16 int 90.5

vs teams 10-6 or better
30 games 663 of 1059 for 7,969 50 td 38 int 86.4

vs teams 9-7 or better
39 games 904 of 1431 11,068 74 td 48 int 90.2

Remember, the best pass defenses during Romo's career have typically allowed ratings in the 60s and 70s.
 

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The data you present PH is fascinating.

Romo has been outstanding in games against the truly elite, 12-4 or better.

Then there are the games against just the solid playoff teams, 10-6 or 11-5. HIs play is markedly worse, most notably his TD-INT percentage in those games is way, way off where it is against the truly elite and where it is against non-playoff teams. Now I do wonder how much of that is due to those 10-6 or 11-5 teams having dominant defenses compared to the more elite teams. I know sample size may limit some of the conclusions but it begs further analysis. Has this been a failure of the players and coaches to get revved up for non-elite playoff teams? Is there something different about the way the offense plays in games where they aren't given a chance compared to the more even contests against just solid playoff teams.

Someone should be looking into what the drivers were for that statistical anomaly.
 

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These are Romo's career numbers (playoffs included) against all opponents which could possibly be considered "good teams."

vs teams 13-3 or better
7 games 150 of 232 for 2,052 13 td 3 int 106.1

vs teams 12-4 or better
11 games 230 of 356 for 2,930 16 td 8 int 95.8

vs teams 11-5 or better
18 games 403 of 634 for 4.920 26 td 16 int 90.5

vs teams 10-6 or better
30 games 663 of 1059 for 7,969 50 td 38 int 86.4

vs teams 9-7 or better
39 games 904 of 1431 11,068 74 td 48 int 90.2

Remember, the best pass defenses during Romo's career have typically allowed ratings in the 60s and 70s.

PH do you have a break down on the W/L for the above or has this been posted?
 

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The data you present PH is fascinating.

Romo has been outstanding in games against the truly elite, 12-4 or better.

Then there are the games against just the solid playoff teams, 10-6 or 11-5. HIs play is markedly worse, most notably his TD-INT percentage in those games is way, way off where it is against the truly elite and where it is against non-playoff teams. Now I do wonder how much of that is due to those 10-6 or 11-5 teams having dominant defenses compared to the more elite teams. I know sample size may limit some of the conclusions but it begs further analysis. Has this been a failure of the players and coaches to get revved up for non-elite playoff teams? Is there something different about the way the offense plays in games where they aren't given a chance compared to the more even contests against just solid playoff teams.

Someone should be looking into what the drivers were for that statistical anomaly.

It might also be that there are NFCE teams in that good-not-great block that have geared their teams for us over the years and with whom we're more or less splitting season games right now.
 

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So, now the lament is NOT that Romo has 5-INT days, NOT that he bobbles the ball in Seattle and takes us out of the playoffs, NOT that he thows an INT in the Commanders game and takes us out of the playoffs, NOT that he has a grand total of 1 playoff win . . . but that he does not have a stellar supporting cast?

Well, talk about a teflon QB. My wish would be a sterling season for Romo AND a playoff win. Is that too much to ask from this multimillionaire? If Aikman or Staubach has this much amount of adulation, they'd be elected kings of the world. And those two veterans had equal or more talent and a playoff record to show for it.

But let me say this: Romo, you are one lucky man to half this much adoration. Gimme a playoff win and I, too, will join the love parade.
 

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So, now the lament is NOT that Romo has 5-INT days, NOT that he bobbles the ball in Seattle and takes us out of the playoffs, NOT that he thows an INT in the Commanders game and takes us out of the playoffs, NOT that he has a grand total of 1 playoff win . . . but that he does not have a stellar supporting cast?

Well, talk about a teflon QB. My wish would be a sterling season for Romo AND a playoff win. Is that too much to ask from this multimillionaire? If Aikman or Staubach has this much amount of adulation, they'd be elected kings of the world. And those two veterans had equal or more talent and a playoff record to show for it.

But let me say this: Romo, you are one lucky man to half this much adoration. Gimme a playoff win and I, too, will join the love parade.

More than one playoff win. Get me to a Championship Game.
 

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All of the posters who said, prior to 2009, "If Romo just wins ONE playoff game, then I will shut up"............ought to stay true to their word after Cowboys 34, Eagles 14 and shut up. Be a man of your word.
 
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