News: DMN: Sherrington: Why Wade Wilson is not to blame for Cowboys' failure to develop QBs

Doomsday101

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Let's go back to that guy you claimed couldn't develop quarterbacks and that they were "crappy", Sean Payton. That error was so egregious that it's worth revisiting. Not only did he help to develop Romo, and then Drew Brees, but the guy also turned undrafted free agent Chase Daniel into a solid, dependable quarterback. First for himself, and then Daniel was so well thought of that he went on to receive a 3-year $10 million contract from the Kansas City Chiefs! Don't talk about "BS" from anybody else when you throw out ill-conceived and completely inaccurate claims for your Cowboys without having the slightest clue what you're talking about.




And yet another error, Matt Flynn did fine for himself in Green Bay, well enough to secure himself a 3-year, $20 million contract from the Seattle Seahawks, not bad for a guy who only cost Green Bay a 7th round draft pick. By comparison, name the last quarterback the Cowboys developed who ever had a start anywhere else, much less made anything close to that money. And coincidentally, Matt Flynn is now down in New Orleans, undoubtedly being taught well by quarterback guru Sean Payton.

Anything else you'd like to say to make yourself look even worse?

Peyton spend little time with him he was a 4th string QB Peyton also worked with Henson, Hutchinson and the like how did that go? I guess he gets a pass on them right? It still takes talent and there has not been a lot of talent brought in at QB. We are not going to see things the same I don't expect Wilson to turn QB with little talent into quality players no more than Payton turning Hutchinson or Henson into pros
 

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Peyton spend little time with him he was a 4th string QB Peyton also worked with Henson, Hutchinson and the like how did that go? I guess he gets a pass on them right? It still takes talent and there has not been a lot of talent brought in at QB. We are not going to see things the same I don't expect Wilson to turn QB with little talent into quality players no more than Payton turning Hutchinson or Henson into pros

Since you brought up Hutchinson, we can expand on that too, although I'm sure you won't like that either. Parcells and Payton inherited ol' Hutch, and after seeing what he couldn't do, got rid of him a year later. Can't blame them for that bum. Want to know where he went to flounder after that? To Chicago, to work with your hero, one Wade Wilson! You can't make this stuff up!

As for Henson, he was a Jerry move and a guy that neither Parcells or Payton ever wanted (you can look that up for yourself!)

We should just agree to disagree here respectfully and you should move on. You're not at your best on this one.
 

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Since you brought up Hutchinson, we can expand on that too, although I'm sure you won't like that either. Parcells and Payton inherited ol' Hutch, and after seeing what he couldn't do, got rid of him a year later. Can't blame them for that bum. Want to know where he went to flounder after that? To Chicago, to work with your hero, one Wade Wilson! You can't make this stuff up!

As for Henson, he was a Jerry move and a guy that neither Parcells or Payton ever wanted (you can look that up for yourself!)

We should just agree to disagree here respectfully and you should move on. You're not at your best on this one.

and wade is not picking who Dallas gets at QB, Wade gets who is brought in if they have little talent he is not going to turn them into NFL QB so this notion well BP and Sean did not pick them, so what that has nothing to do with it the fact is a coach can only do so much and the fact is we have not had decent QB coming to Dallas and got damn lucky to find a diamond in the rough with Romo. Wade has done a good job with Romo and yes I say him, Romo has gone through periods where he had a high TD rate but also had a high int and Wade worked and talked with Romo on these things. Claiming the short time with Sean and BP was all their doing is rediculas, BP was gone after a 1/2 season with Romo and he was far from a developed QB there was still much work left.
I’m not on my best with this one why because you disagree? I think you are way off base
 

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and wade is not picking who Dallas gets at QB, Wade gets who is brought in if they have little talent he is not going to turn them into NFL QB so this notion well BP and Sean did not pick them, so what that has nothing to do with it the fact is a coach can only do so much and the fact is we have not had decent QB coming to Dallas and got damn lucky to find a diamond in the rough with Romo. Wade has done a good job with Romo and yes I say him, Romo has gone through periods where he had a high TD rate but also had a high int and Wade worked and talked with Romo on these things. Claiming the short time with Sean and BP was all their doing is rediculas, BP was gone after a 1/2 season with Romo and he was far from a developed QB there was still much work left.
I’m not on my best with this one why because you disagree? I think you are way off base

Hang in there, Doom...but stash is a pragmatist with little in the now tolerance for failures.
 

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and wade is not picking who Dallas gets at QB, Wade gets who is brought in if they have little talent he is not going to turn them into NFL QB so this notion well BP and Sean did not pick them, so what that has nothing to do with it the fact is a coach can only do so much and the fact is we have not had decent QB coming to Dallas and got damn lucky to find a diamond in the rough with Romo.

Then exactly who is making these decisions on the quarterbacks being brought in? It's funny how the double-standard with Garrett and Co. only seems to work for player decisions they get right? "Garrett's plan for rebuilding the offensive line" when we use three picks and get three Pro Bowlers. But when we continue to fail at quarterback? They're not picking these guys!

I clearly showed that neither Payton nor Parcells were involved in bringing in Hutchinson and Henson. In fact, Hutchinson was here before either one arrived! Pretty tough to bring in someone before you got here.

Wade has done a good job with Romo and yes I say him, Romo has gone through periods where he had a high TD rate but also had a high int and Wade worked and talked with Romo on these things.

Despite all evidence to the contrary. You can't provide one other example of where Wade Wilson has had success anywhere else or with any other quarterback.

Claiming the short time with Sean and BP was all their doing is rediculas,

No, your spelling and abuse of the English language is ridiculous. Three years is by no means a "short time".

BP was gone after a 1/2 season with Romo and he was far from a developed QB there was still much work left.
I’m not on my best with this one why because you disagree? I think you are way off base

More inaccuracies and outright lies. If you want to keep looking bad, you go right ahead. Payton was here from 2003-05 before getting the Saints head coaching job. He worked with Romo for 3 years! And, in fact, Payton was the guy screaming at the brain trust to draft Tony Romo in 2003 in the first place! If not for Sean Payton, we would never have had Romo here at all! Do your homework man!

And Parcells coached here from 2003-06, he worked with Romo for 4 years, the most formative period of an NFL career! And not only that, but he left behind a set of instructions for him to follow after he'd left, continuing to coach and guide him. The fact is that Parcells is still coaching him.
 
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Then exactly who is making these decisions on the quarterbacks being brought in? It's funny how the double-standard with Garrett and Co. only seems to work for player decisions they get right? "Garrett's plan for rebuilding the offensive line" when we use three picks and get three Pro Bowlers. But when we continue to fail at quarterback? They're not picking these guys!

I clearly showed that neither Payton nor Parcells were involved in bringing in Hutchinson and Henson. In fact, Hutchinson was here before either one arrived! Pretty tough to bring in someone before you got here.



Despite all evidence to the contrary. You can't provide one other example of where Wade Wilson has had success anywhere else or with any other quarterback.



No, your spelling and abuse of the English language is ridiculous. Three years is by no means a "short time".



More inaccuracies and outright lies. If you want to keep looking bad, you go right ahead. Payton was here from 2003-05 before getting the Saints head coaching job. He worked with Romo for 3 years! And, in fact, Payton was the guy screaming at the brain trust to draft Tony Romo in 2003 in the first place! If not for Sean Payton, we would never have had Romo here at all! Do your homework man!

And Parcells coached here from 2003-06, he worked with Romo for 4 years, the most formative period of an NFL career! And not only that, but he left behind a set of instructions for him to follow after he'd left, continuing to coach and guide him. The fact is that Parcells is still coaching him.


I'm talking about Wade Wilson does he make the choice of which QB? NO he does not. As for Peyton yes he worked with Romo and as a 4th string QB Tony was not getting near the rep and time that other QB ahead of him were getting. You don't want to credit wade fine that is your deal not mine. This crap of we all must see things your way is what is ridiculous. I will not sit here and call people liars and would appreciate the same. Believe or not yours is not the only opinion around here and despite what you think you are not expert just a fan like everyone else with an opinion. If you don't like my view fine you want to start insulting then hell with you
 

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I'm talking about Wade Wilson does he make the choice of which QB? NO he does not.

Then who does?

What kind of an organization makes quarterback decisions with no involvement from the guy that's supposed to be coaching them? If they're doing that, they're dumber than anyone ever thought. So, it's mere coincidence that Chad Hutchinson went from working with Wilson in Dallas to working with him in Chicago? And slo coincidence that Kyle Orton went from working with him in Chicago to then working with him in Dallas? Please. Try to smell what you're shoveling here. Is this really what you're trying to sell?

As for Peyton yes he worked with Romo and as a 4th string QB Tony was not getting near the rep and time that other QB ahead of him were getting.

And everyone knows that there's a whole lot more to coaching than "reps".

You don't want to credit wade fine that is your deal not mine. This crap of we all must see things your way is what is ridiculous.

Glad you learned how to spell the word ridiculous. You're welcome.

I will not sit here and call people liars and would appreciate the same.

If you'd stop telling lies as truths there would be no issue. Care to revisit your claim about how Payton's quarterbacks in New Orleans other than Brees "all stink", when not only did Chase Daniel go on to be a successful backup, there and elsewhere, but nobody outside of Brees even played?!?!? Two explanations, either you didn't know what you were talking about, or you lied. Pick one.

Believe or not yours is not the only opinion around here and despite what you think you are not expert just a fan like everyone else with an opinion. If you don't like my view fine you want to start insulting then hell with you

I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinion. What I do expect is for them to actually tell the truth and support what they claim. You've done neither here.
 

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Then who does?

What kind of an organization makes quarterback decisions with no involvement from the guy that's supposed to be coaching them? If they're doing that, they're dumber than anyone ever thought. So, it's mere coincidence that Chad Hutchinson went from working with Wilson in Dallas to working with him in Chicago? And slo coincidence that Kyle Orton went from working with him in Chicago to then working with him in Dallas? Please. Try to smell what you're shoveling here. Is this really what you're trying to sell?



And everyone knows that there's a whole lot more to coaching than "reps".



Glad you learned how to spell the word ridiculous. You're welcome.



If you'd stop telling lies as truths there would be no issue. Care to revisit your claim about how Payton's quarterbacks in New Orleans other than Brees "all stink", when not only did Chase Daniel go on to be a successful backup, there and elsewhere, but nobody outside of Brees even played?!?!? Two explanations, either you didn't know what you were talking about, or you lied. Pick one.



I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinion. What I do expect is for them to actually tell the truth and support what they claim. You've done neither here.

Stash, you stick in there as you see things...that I do have a respect for. You aren't an unreasonable man, just a Cowboys fan.
 

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Stash, you stick in there as you see things...that I do have a respect for. You aren't an unreasonable man, just a Cowboys fan.

Thank you sir, I relish the compliment. I know you and I have had our differences too, but in the big picture, we both love our Cowboys and that matters more than any disagreements we may have.

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Wilson was suspended for drugs as a coach. Enough said. Someone like this is not coaching material. Coaches need to set a good example and have zero tolerance of this type of thing.
 
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