News: DMN: Sturm: How The Cowboys Were Built

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The #1 job of the Head Coach is to keep the team motivated and playing hard. Wade failed miserably in that role. You can't blame that on the assistants.

Yep. I remember specifically during training camp of 2010: the offense was having a really sloppy day at practice. Garrett wanted to force them to redo the walk-throughs and drills over again so that they got it right. Wade overruled and said that they needed to keep moving along. I hated it then and I still hate it now. There's a reason Phillip's team's were sloppy and ill-prepared. Because he allowed them to be. The next time Jerry hires a "player's coach", I'm going down to Dallas myself to kick him square in the balls.
 

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Garrett was not the HC in 2010 so he does not get "credit" for drafting players from that year.

Here is your 7 of 22 starters on O and D

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2010 was the beginning of the marked-difference when it came to how the Cowboys approached the draft. The 2009 draft was a disaster that apparent by the end of that season. Both top picks were "pet cats" of the coaching staff. The picks of Bryant and Lee were clearly the case of the Cowboys following their draft board.

While I can't verify it, I think it's apparent that something changed between the 2009 draft and that of 2010.
 

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2010 was the beginning of the marked-difference when it came to how the Cowboys approached the draft. The 2009 draft was a disaster that apparent by the end of that season. Both top picks were "pet cats" of the coaching staff. The picks of Bryant and Lee were clearly the case of the Cowboys following their draft board.

While I can't verify it, I think it's apparent that something changed between the 2009 draft and that of 2010.

Whoever was responsible for that 2009 draft needs to be forced to wear a scarlet letter "B" on their chest (for bust).
 

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Whoever was responsible for that 2009 draft needs to be forced to wear a scarlet letter "B" on their chest (for bust).

Yeah, anyone responsible for that debacle you should be drawn and quartered!

That thing was a disaster from the second they traded away the 1st rounder for Roy Williams to when they sat on their hands instead of going after Max Unger when everyone knew they needed/wanted him. Seattle jumped ahead of them and the Cowboys had zero backup plan and panicked and traded down at a loss.

And then it was as if they purposely avoided anyone resembling actual NFL talent.

Its truly mind-boggling at how well they avoided drafting anyone who could play.
 

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Yeah, anyone responsible for that debacle you should be drawn and quartered!

That thing was a disaster from the second they traded away the 1st rounder for Roy Williams to when they sat on their hands instead of going after Max Unger when everyone knew they needed/wanted him. Seattle jumped ahead of them and the Cowboys had zero backup plan and panicked and traded down at a loss.

And then it was as if they purposely avoided anyone resembling actual NFL talent.

Its truly mind-boggling at how well they avoided drafting anyone who could play.

I think it came down to Jerry would acquiesce to any draft pick the coaching staff wanted regardless of what input the scouts had.
 

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I think it came down to Jerry would acquiesce to any draft pick the coaching staff wanted regardless of what input the scouts had.

Whatever it was, it was as bad as the '95 special teams/backup draft.

What I remember most outside of the Max Unger debacle was the arguments between fans over whether or not the draft was actually the disaster many thought at the time.

I remember the classic line about "giving a draft three years", followed up by three years later and "that's in the past, we need to focus on the present and the future".

So basically for some there was no time where you could actually criticize the draft.

:rolleyes:
 

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2010 was the beginning of the marked-difference when it came to how the Cowboys approached the draft. The 2009 draft was a disaster that apparent by the end of that season. Both top picks were "pet cats" of the coaching staff. The picks of Bryant and Lee were clearly the case of the Cowboys following their draft board.

While I can't verify it, I think it's apparent that something changed between the 2009 draft and that of 2010.

Sure but it still does not change that Garrett was not the HC which was my point. There are 7 O and D starters on the roster that he did not draft. Helped develop some of them? You bet. But that is not what the article is about. My comment is NOT a knock against Garrett either.
 

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I always saw it as wanting to get a 3-4 defensive coordinator and essentially giving Phillips the head coach title in name only. Jones knew that he could effectively cut the duties in half between Phillips on defense and Garrett on offense. And Phillips - being an easy going enough guy desperate for another head coaching job - would be fine with going along with that structure.

The thing that drove me crazy as much as anything else at that time was the amount of 'status quo' that was happening. Other than Jerry chasing infamous 'names' like Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson, the team seemed to do little in terms of roster shuffling and beating the bushes with tryouts.

I completely agree with your second paragraph. Not one of Jerry's better GM work during that "status quo" period under Wade.

At first I believed as you did concerning Jerry's reasoning for the WP hire: I thought Jerry wanted to run the show to prove he did not need the Tuna. Then I changed my view when I saw similarities between the way things were run under Barry. I felt Jerry wanted the vets to lead the team and that was just not going to happen with all the me-type players.
 

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While I can't verify it, I think it's apparent that something changed between the 2009 draft and that of 2010.
We will likely never know the answer to this mystery. Did Jerry get fed up and demand accountability? Did Stephen? Something made the Cowboy change their approach to the off season and the way they build the team. Now we are seeing the dividends and honestly we should be good for a while.
 

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We will likely never know the answer to this mystery. Did Jerry get fed up and demand accountability? Did Stephen? Something made the Cowboy change their approach to the off season and the way they build the team. Now we are seeing the dividends and honestly we should be good for a while.

Garrett...
 

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I'm concerned, also, but I won't let it could what I saw last year, either. Harris was no longer the return man that he used to be, He was tentative in his decision making and not once did he hit the seam last year like he had in years past. He looked, to me, like he was running scared from the moment he caught the ball. What's really weird about that is that he didn't have the same cautious nature as a gunner. He still covered kicks like a bad motha-shutyomouth. That's where I'm concerned about replacing him (the coverage game). His return game, quite frankly, didn't have it anymore and it was time to see something different, IMHO.

I think that Harris was nursing a leg injury all season that robbed him of his burst.
 

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2010 was the beginning of the marked-difference when it came to how the Cowboys approached the draft. The 2009 draft was a disaster that apparent by the end of that season. Both top picks were "pet cats" of the coaching staff. The picks of Bryant and Lee were clearly the case of the Cowboys following their draft board.

While I can't verify it, I think it's apparent that something changed between the 2009 draft and that of 2010.

I disagree completely with the last line.

2009 was an awful draft all the way around the league. The draft was very thin in talent - a fact that was discussed in detail by many of the draftniks. The Cowboys strategy failure went FAR beyond selecting pet cats - rather than package picks to move up and get guys who would help immediately, they traded down and acquired extra picks in a draft lacking depth in talent. That's an idiotic strategy in a draft that called for quality over volume, especially when the team is saying that their starters are set.

2010 was a better result, aided in part by better talent being available throughout the draft. The reason why I don't think that there was a paradigm shift was for the following two reasons:

1. The 2012 draft, where they traded up for Claiborne when they hadn't done a serious work up on him, was a poor class for the Cowboys.

2. The 2013 draft, where the scouts and coaching staff were not on the same page in terms of positional prototypes and preferences, was set up to be a disaster, but was saved by the Jones' insisting on a trade down, and then selecting Frederick when many believed it was an early pick. Even the Jones' fed into this by admitting that they picked him because the top interior linemen were picked clean at that time.

I think the real changes began last year.
 

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Every day that goes by I'm loving the direction of this franchise more and more. I couldn't be any happier with the coaches or the front office.

Never, ever thought I'd say that. o_O
 

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Don't you know? That's IMPOSSIBRU!

He's made his coaching mistakes just like any dumb jock would.

But, he's learned..."don't ice your own kicker"! lol... Garrett knows the game and has played the game.

I think what happens, and this is just my opinion...being in a locker room with the players without Jerry or His son meddling with the players.

But, that is in the locker room. Stay out and let me and the coaches update you on what players stay or which ones go.

Jerry pays the bills, his Son does his money majik...and let Garrett manage the team. That's what he gets paid for.

It looks like it might be working. lol
 

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I think that Harris was nursing a leg injury all season that robbed him of his burst.

Possibly but it sure didn't affect his kick coverage. The dude was running scared, to me. He hesitated way too much and was very indecisive in the return game.
 

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Garrett drafted a lot of pet cats as a o- coordinator that did not work out.

Wade wanted to draft Chris Johnson and Garret wanted Jones.

Martellus Bennet was another Garrett pick.

It's very disingenuous to act like Garrett was not getting any pull in the draft room under Wade.
 
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