Do we have the right weapons on this offense?

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Biggest issue on offense: Red zone offense

The Cowboys converted on 3 of 4 chances inside the New York Giants’ 20 in the opener but have scored a touchdown on 3 of 11 red zone drives in the last two games. Last season, they did not score a touchdown on just 16 of 56 red zone trips. They are already halfway to last year’s total misses in just three games. The best red zone teams run the ball into the end zone but against the Cardinals, the Cowboys were without three starting offensive linemen. They need their receivers to win on their routes more. They need Dak Prescott to be more accurate in tight quarters. And Mike McCarthy needs to scheme it better when that close. — Todd Archer
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...packers?ueid=d29e426080d34b77c2be722b7ff361fb
 

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They have not had a true end zone threat since Dez. I was hoping Simi Fehoko would develop and be that guy.
Another stupid thing they do, and will not address it. Maybe in 20 years they will finally do it, as they did with DT this year.
Why 20 years why are you being so negative, I see what you're trying to do, so stop it!!

Agreed, you'd think Gallup could use his big frame in there but maybe we go look for someone at the deadline or in the off season
 

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It's more of execution before the redzone. Mistakes are killing us outside of the RZ. Then in the RZ, I would question the playcalling. I understand why we want Dak to get the ball out quick. It's working until we get into the RZ and the field gets tight. That's when we have to get Dak outside of the pocket and create space/plays. Could MM be too conservative inside the RZ?
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Seems like we're asking this question every year. Even when we've had the #1 offense, this question has been asked. At some point we have to realize it's the limitations of the QB.
Perfectly said and this is why you can't get happy when he has all these great Stat games
 

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Why 20 years why are you being so negative, I see what you're trying to do, so stop it!!

Agreed, you'd think Gallup could use his big frame in there but maybe we go look for someone at the deadline or in the off season
Not trying to do anything, what is negative about the truth...did it not take about that long to address the DT issues? OK, maybe 15 years, if you count Leroi Glover.
 

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You could basically change every skill player right now and it wouldn't make a difference, because they are running a coward's offense. Take a skill group of basically any 11 guys in the league and you wouldn't notice a difference. Dallas isn't even trying to challenge defenses vertically, or let anything develop downfield.

I didn't like it, but it made sense to do that in blowouts against the giants and Jets. It made no sense against ARZ, and is suicide if that's the organizational philosophy for the year. The season is over already if what we've seen is their definition of "complimentary" football. It's Jason Garrett ball, and it cripples any ceiling the team might have.
 

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You could basically change every skill player right now and it wouldn't make a difference, because they are running a coward's offense. Take a skill group of basically any 11 guys in the league and you wouldn't notice a difference. Dallas isn't even trying to challenge defenses vertically, or let anything develop downfield.

I didn't like it, but it made sense to do that in blowouts against the giants and Jets. It made no sense against ARZ, and is suicide if that's the organizational philosophy for the year. The season is over already if what we've seen is their definition of "complimentary" football. It's Jason Garrett ball, and it cripples any ceiling the team might have.
Offense is terrible there's too many short routes
 

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For Dak to be successful and lead us into the Superbowl. I thought we made some moves this off season that were geared to help this offense move. What are your thoughts on the help we've given him. Does he need more, I think we can agree that OL help would be most needed!
No your Dumbo GM traded Amari Cooper and got nothing.
 

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No, we didn't have an offensive line, for crying out loud.

The Cowboys played without the only three O-linemen that has been a Pro Bowl selection and replaced them with two rookie undrafted free agents and a guy that hasn't started a seasons worth of games in his five year career.

The offensive line is the main weapon in an offense. Without them, these skill players can do absolutely nothing.

To make it worse, the injuries happened two days before the game. Do you seriously think these rookies were prepared to go out there and start? Please!

This team was screwed by circumstances, that's all that happened on Sunday.

What we really need to talk about is why the defense didn't have their back. Based on the performances of the defense in the two previous games, the Cowboys should still have won. What happened?

Well, they lost an All Pro CB, one of the biggest defensive playmakers in the NFL. So the coaches decided to move Bland to the outside, making sure that two positions changed starters instead of one. Then they inserted a guy that had not been on the field since game #6 last season. What did they expect?
 

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As discussed previously, turnover differential is one of the most impactful statistics in the game. A differential of just one can close a point spread in an instant.

While Prescott’s interception wasn’t necessarily the deciding factor in the game, it was worth a -4.911 EPA, making it the most damaging play on his stat sheet.

Against a backup QB, the Cowboys defense was expected by many to continue their turnover-inducing ways and hand the Cowboys offense extra opportunities in extra nice field position. Needless to say, that didn’t happen.

Not only did the Arizona passer survive the Cowboys defense, but he even posted a better EPA per dropback, a better success rate and a better CPOE than the Cowboys’ Prescott.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-week-3-by-the-numbers/
 

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Are people NOT talking about the O line because they don't recognize the names?
 

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To me its not so much an issue with the weapons.
But more with how the Cards crowd the line/shallow zone pass dee eliminated the effectiveness of the dink and dunk in the first half.

But then as the Card dee backed off a little in the second half to limit middle/intermediate passing, they gave up underneath run success.

Basically they sacrificed giving up some run yardage in the second half in order to protect their lead by preventing a passing comeback offense from happening.

The NFL copycat d-coordinators will definitely use this film against the Dallas offense

It will be up to Dak and Mike to know how to successfully adjust.

Reminded me of when Fangio exposed Dak and the offense as Denver's d coordinator a couple of years ago.

Gonna be fun to see IF the offense can adjust.
 
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To me its not so much an issue with the weapons.
But more with how the Cards crowd the line/shallow zone pass dee eliminated the effectiveness of the dink and dunk in the first half.

But then as the Card dee backed off a little in the second half to limit middle/intermediate passing, they gave up underneath run success.

Basically they sacrificed giving up some run yardage in the second half in order to protect their lead by preventing a passing comeback offense from happening.

The NFL copycat d-coordinators will definitely use this film against the Dallas offense

It will be up to Dak and Mike to know how to successfully adjust.

Reminded me of when Fangio exposed Dak and the offense as Denver's d coordinator a couple of years ago.

Gonna be fun to see IF the offense can adjust.
They still can overcome current disfunction...but changing mission assignments is never good in stream. It boils down to confrontation, not hiding things...development is alright, but not by preferences.
 

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We’re clearly missing Dalton Schultz in the redzone, who had 13 TDs, his last two seasons with the Cowboys, and we continue to miss Amari Cooper who has more TDs this season than all of our WRs combined. None our WRs have a TD. Everyone was excited about the addition of Brandin Cooks but he hasn’t done much.
 

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This is where I get frustrated with the Dak talk. “Does he need more?” The guy is given line and weapons yearly. Last year may have been the weakest but overall he’s not been barren and most seasons pretty stacked. That shouldn’t be a question with a top QB. We have players. If it’s not working it’s coaching or the players not executing.
 
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