CFZ Do we need to believe in Prescott to root him on?

[PAPPYDOG]

The bigger point I’m attempting to make is the members here who use these Hacks in the media to support their own agenda or narrative like Stephen A an admitted Cowboys Troll for example , then they are basically aligning themself as a similar Hack. And we should consider them as such. Especially if their message continually aligns with. If it looks and sounds like duck. Quack quack.

Stephen A supported with a PASSION Dak's new contract..........Being a well-known Cowboy hater I wonder why?????
P.S. Guess you didn't object then did you Tad opps I'm sorry DiehardforDakblues.....

 

[75boyz]

You can always root for the team regardless of personal opinions of individual players.
Some can separate the two and understand that, while the less mature here that try to regulate opinions can't grasp it.
To each his own.

Cowboys!

 

[Captain-Crash]

Stephen A supported with a PASSION Dak's new contract..........Being a well-known Cowboy hater I wonder why?????
P.S. Guess you didn't object then did you, Tad, oops I'm sorry DiehardforDakblues.....

don't worry the great-grandpa you're responding to, used to say Garrett was better than Landry. sheesh. I wouldn't trust this guys opinion on anything,

 

[Diehardblues]

Stephen A supported with a PASSION Dak's new contract..........Being a well-known Cowboy hater I wonder why?????
P.S. Guess you didn't object then did you Tad opps I'm sorry DiehardforDakblues.....

Actually I did. His agenda is blatantly obvious. Much like yours.

And anyone who has followed me knows I’ve also been a critic without being a Dak Hack or Homer. Like most Cowboy fans I’m more in the middle.

But I figured the Stephen A comment would attract you. Like flies on crap, lol

You have become like the Stephen A of The Zone.
If it looks and sounds like a duck . Quack quack. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

The Dak Hacks always show up to derail a good thread with normal sound discussions.

If it looks and sounds like a duck .. quack quack

 

[Diehardblues]

What should the fans expectations be? The core problem isn’t removable so there isn’t anything that’s going to change regardless of what fans do unless they embarrass Jerry and start wearing bags over their heads to games. As for holding the players making elite money and not performing to that level fans should hold them accountable it’s what fans do, every Dallas QB has been booed and held accountable by the fans since I’ve watched from Eddie LeBarron on so why do you think it is ever going to change. There’s only on cure to stop the QB criticism and that’s start winning games that matter and start playing for 4 quarters instead of 1 1/2 at the end. If Dak and this team with the way the D is playing doesn’t make a very deep playoff run you haven’t seen anything yet.

Considering the Cowboys greatest obstacle and hurdle isn’t removable I’d recommend lowering or at least adjusting all expectations .

If our team starts having more success which is possible with this defense why should Prescott receive more credit or not still receive criticism?

That sounds like we blame any teams QB’s for their team for not having more success. Not sure that’s sound analysis . And if we acknowledge our Stupidass owner over paid our average to above average QB who will stifle building a better team how can we hold our QB directly responsible .

Did you hold him equally responsible when he was on his Rookie contract? The contract is just a talking point .

Fans that expect a QB once he receives his second contract to all of a sudden raise expectations to winning championships is most ridiculous thing I’ve heard. Sounds like a casual fan or some mediots. Most of us all know that over paying less than Elite QB’s is the quickest way to lower expectations for a team winning a championship.

 

[Brax]

Considering the Cowboys greatest obstacle and hurdle isn’t removable I’d recommend lowering or at least adjusting all expectations .

If our team starts having more success which is possible with this defense why should Prescott receive more credit or not still receive criticism?

That sounds like we blame any teams QB’s for their team for not having more success. Not sure that’s sound analysis . And if we acknowledge our Stupidass owner over paid our average to above average QB who will stifle building a better team hiw can we hold our QB directly responsible .

Did you hold him equally responsive when he was on his Rookie contract? The contract is just a talking point .

Fans that expect a QB once he receives his second contract to all of a sudden raise expectations to winning championships is most ridiculous thing I’ve heard. Sounds like a casual fan or some mediots. Most of us all know that over paying less than Elite QB’s is the quickest way to lower expectations for a team winning a championship.

Rookie contract had no bearing on how one should judge Dak it’s a body of work and for better or worse he’s Jerry’s QB so fans hope but expect Dak to be what he is for what he’s shown so far. You have said multiple times it’s the market so Jerry did what you would do signed him, many folks here said it was a mistake but that’s water under the bridge and not sure what the casual fan reference is but that would include you I have to believe as your track record of JG support is one only a casual fan could believe and puts a majority of your views on that type of skeptical footing.

 

[CouchCoach]

You can always root for the team regardless of personal opinions of individual players.
Some can separate the two and understand that, while the less mature here that try to regulate opinions can't grasp it.
To each his own.

Cowboys!

Yep, Deion Sanders, Pacman Jones and Terrel Owens were 3 of my least favorite players but once they donned that Star, I had to look the other way and root for them, which I did.

Which is quite the opposite since most teams I dislike have players on them I do not like.

That said, if the Cowboys had signed vick, I would be a hater til the day I die. I draw the line with a piece of filth like him. Fortunately, the highest per capita ownership of dogs in the US is DFW and the ASPCA and PETA got proactive with Booger and let him know what he was in store for had he even interviewed vick.

 

[Diehardblues]

Rookie contract had no bearing on how one should judge Dak it’s a body of work and for better or worse he’s Jerry’s QB so fans hope but expect Dak to be what he is for what he’s shown so far. You have said multiple times it’s the market so Jerry did what you would do signed him, many folks here said it was a mistake but that’s water under the bridge and not sure what the casual fan reference is but that would include you I have to believe as your track record of JG support is one only a casual fan could believe and puts a majority of your views on that type of skeptical footing.

My support and narrative supporting Garrett was he was a product of Jethro’s dysfunctional ways . And that’s a similar feeling I have with Prescott. Along with not having any confidence Jethro could do any better.

I argued the market pricing on Prescott behalf because there was criticism he was holding our team hostage . Players have to get their money while they can. I never stated he was worth it .

I’ll always support a player negotiating on his own interest as I’m more pro player than ownership. And it’s up to owners to place themselves in better position to negotiate which Jethro didn’t.

 

[Captain-Crash]

you guys are jerry's puppets. you believe in everything he does. sad but true, support the team and don't complain, Jerry loves you.

 

[KJJ]

Anyone who’s a true fan of a team will pull for a player regardless if they don’t believe in them because thar players performance will affect how the team plays. I pulled for Quincy, Carter even though I didn’t believe in him because I wanted the team to do well. You have fans on this board that pull against Dak because they don’t want him here. Some even pull against the team so they’ll get rid of him and use a high draft pick on another QB. Fan boards like this are loaded with a bunch of idiots with an agenda.

 

[john van brocklin]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Cowpolk likes this response!!!!!!

 

[john van brocklin]

Omg another Dak thread.

And I am as much to blame because I read through and posted.

Like watching a train wreak !!!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

Like watching a train wreak !!!!!

For a few pages we actually had some sound discussions . But the Dak Hacks won’t allow it very long.

 

[john van brocklin]

For a few pages we actually had some sound discussions . But the Dak Hacks won’t allow it very long.

Good initial post , and some good input Later on

 

[john van brocklin]

I keep hearing this mantra from fans who say” I don’t believe Dak is the guy, or is enough, etc..

OK, who really cares what fans believe.

What we need to be discussing or bashing are the ones responsible for believing and investing in Prescott .

It’s like ok. We paid him, why isn’t he meeting those expectations? Instead of maybe the guys who invested in him missed the boat or had ulterior motives or lack thereof.

Personally , I’ve thought he’s been over valued , not Elite and would need much support for the ultimate team success but I see no reason to bash him . It’s not his fault our front office over valued him.

In the meantime , I’ll still root him on like the other 52 guys on the roster. I don’t have to believe in anything. This thought that we can’t support our guys unless we believe in them is pure rubbish and simply egotistical fan rhetoric.

Who cares if you believe in him or not. And nobody cares if you thought you were right. The only ones we hold accountable are the ones making the decisions. That’s who should bear the brunt of the bashing and criticism. They are the ones who continue to believe and invest in him without more success. The fans are just rooting on their guys . Until they aren’t their guys.

If you want to discuss stats and results that’s fine but fans discussing this personal belief is pure crappola. Who cares. Lol

Until we have better front office decisions
It’s hard to see our team excelling

 

[Rockport]

Emmitt had to carry the ball 20 a game for Troy to win, allegedly. Dak needs 100 yards on the ground for him to win, supposedly. I don't see that big of a difference between what's needed for both guys to win. So maybe there are other factors involved. Like defense, coaching, and play calling.

What you posted is common sense. A lot of Zoners don’t have any or just have an agenda. Or both. Ask Brady and Rogers if they can do it all by themselves.

 

[Diehardblues]

Until we have better front office decisions
It’s hard to see our team excelling

Yea, I waved the white flag years ago.

Why any Cowboy fan would have high expectations is beyond me.

I’m a little excited this year only because of Parsons and this defense.

 

[nate dizzle]

I think it does answer it. Both are not the only ones to be blamed .

Great so we agree. Both can be blamed. Along with whoever else you want to lump in there I guess.

 

[DallasEast]

No one is forcing anyone to root for Prescott. However, there are a number of his critics without the self-restraint to stop telling everyone else they are not rooting for Prescott or something similar umpteen times after everyone understood they will not. 'We understood how you felt years ago' is very rarely acknowledged.

'Rarely' is an understatement.

Huge understatement.