Do we pick up Henry Melton's contract?

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It's looking like we will keep him based on how he has picked up his play. If so, they will float him a new multi-year contract to bring down the 9mill cap hit, I imagine.
 

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If Melton continues this display, the team should most definitely keep him (I'm sure a decent SB would lower the hit). DL takes precedent over LB (McClain and Carter). Resign Dez and run Murray dead and let him go if he wants more than 5/yr over 4 yrs. Even 5/yr is a tad high tbh. Leary shouldn't be more than 2-3 per after the SB is spread over. He would have to be let go if higher than that. The team has the 3 OL staples; can't overpay for the spares. Even a good spare.

McClain is just as important to this defense
 

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It is going to be really hard to keep him.
The better he plays the harder it will be.

Dallas lacks cap money so they can't sign everyone.
If Melton is willing to take some 5 mil per year deal he'll be here but I do not think they'll pay him 8/9 mil.

Gotta assume next year's 1st rounder is a defensive guy and probably a DL or Safety.
 

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It is going to be really hard to keep him.
The better he plays the harder it will be.

Dallas lacks cap money so they can't sign everyone.
If Melton is willing to take some 5 mil per year deal he'll be here but I do not think they'll pay him 8/9 mil.

Gotta assume next year's 1st rounder is a defensive guy and probably a DL or Safety.

1st and 2nd rounder on BPA among DE, S, CB and dare I say a RB if one drops. Just don't pick a TE please.
 

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1st and 2nd rounder on BPA among DE, S, CB and dare I say a RB if one drops. Just don't pick a TE please.

At CB they have Moore. Patmon, Mo and OScan.
Carr likely renegotiates or leaves but renegotiating is likely considering his play and market corrections at CB recently.

RB IMHO isn't a target til round 2 at earliest and only then if they feel they have a franchise caliber guy available.

But as the TE picks show they will pick whatever they want regardless of good sense.
 

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At CB they have Moore. Patmon, Mo and OScan.
Carr likely renegotiates or leaves but renegotiating is likely considering his play and market corrections at CB recently.

RB IMHO isn't a target til round 2 at earliest and only then if they feel they have a franchise caliber guy available.

But as the TE picks show they will pick whatever they want regardless of good sense.

I don't think Carr comes back at all given level of play he has demonstrated. He's getting worse. Hope it's not an undisclosed injury.
Besides Scandrick I think we have plenty of room for improvement. Moore is a fighter but he doesn't have long speed or great quickness. Patmon....to be seen.

RB position has been devalued too much I think. The pendulem has swung too extreme. If a franchise one fall I would not be upset to jump on one in the bottom of the 1st round. They can be focal point of an offense and you get instant production on the cheap for 5 years which is wonderful for salary cap...that's good bang for your buck.
 

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I don't think Carr comes back at all given level of play he has demonstrated. He's getting worse. Hope it's not an undisclosed injury.
Besides Scandrick I think we have plenty of room for improvement. Moore is a fighter but he doesn't have long speed or great quickness. Patmon....to be seen.

RB position has been devalued too much I think. The pendulem has swung too extreme. If a franchise one fall I would not be upset to jump on one in the bottom of the 1st round. They can be focal point of an offense and you get instant production on the cheap for 5 years which is wonderful for salary cap...that's good bang for your buck.

If we just cut Carr we eat 12m.
Sometimes paying people to go away is a complete waste.

It seems it would be in both Dallas and Carr's best interest to renogiate so we can eat his past massive cap hits spread over a few seasons and he can stay employed at a decent salary for a team he seems to enjoy.

If Carr would accept a 4m base for 15 and 16 he would cost us around 5.5m next year in cap hits. So we'd save almost 7m in cap charges to have him.
 

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If we just cut Carr we eat 12m.
Sometimes paying people to go away is a complete waste.

It seems it would be in both Dallas and Carr's best interest to renogiate so we can eat his past massive cap hits spread over a few seasons and he can stay employed at a decent salary for a team he seems to enjoy.

If Carr would accept a 4m base for 15 and 16 he would cost us around 5.5m next year in cap hits. So we'd save almost 7m in cap charges to have him.

Didn't know the cap implication of cutting Carr. But what would be the motivation for Carr to restructure unless you make it appealing. It's sad to watch his play deteriorate....even tackling.
 

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Leary is far from a spare. He has All Pro potential.

I meant spare in that we have already invested 3 first rounders who will get nice contracts (not for awhile admittedly). Spare sounded harsher than I meant it to. That's why I said even a great spare.
 

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Didn't know the cap implication of cutting Carr. But what would be the motivation for Carr to restructure unless you make it appealing. It's sad to watch his play deteriorate....even tackling.

If they cut him he loses 8m in base salary in 2015 and 9m in 2016. He has ZERO guaranteed money left. It all depends on what he thinks he could get as a FA. Someone would sign him, but not for 8m/yr. So if Dallas offers a 3yr/12m deal, all guaranteed, he might take it.
 

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Can't understand why these type of threads are started with almost half the season left. Melton has played pretty well but lets wait until the season is over before deciding to pick up his contract.
 

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I meant spare in that we have already invested 3 first rounders who will get nice contracts (not for awhile admittedly). Spare sounded harsher than I meant it to. That's why I said even a great spare.

I think it might be smarter to pay someone like Leary. He's an undrafted guy who plays like someone drafted in the 1st round. He'll command money but not as much as the other three (even if he's as good as the other three). A 1st rounder who lives up to the hype and plays like a 1st rounder usually commands mega money (maybe an ego thing; they've always been told they deserve mega money, and they earned it). I'd rather pay an All Pro with some humility who will command less money (that's not to say I think our three 1st rounders have egos; they seem like hard-nosed, humble guys).
 

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I just looked into his contract in detail. It might be workable:

2015: 9 million base salary (guaranteed)
2016: 7.5 million base salary (non guaranteed)
2017: 7.5 million base salary (non guaranteed)

What Dallas could do is restructure the 9 million for next year over the 3 year term. I think its realistic (considering he is age appropriate at 28) to play atleast 2 years of that deal so it would look like:

2015: 3 million
2016: 10.5 million
2017: 3 million (dead money hit)
 

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I think it might be smarter to pay someone like Leary. He's an undrafted guy who plays like someone drafted in the 1st round. He'll command money but not as much as the other three (even if he's as good as the other three). A 1st rounder who lives up to the hype and plays like a 1st rounder usually commands mega money (maybe an ego thing; they've always been told they deserve mega money, and they earned it). I'd rather pay an All Pro with some humility who will command less money (that's not to say I think our three 1st rounders have egos; they seem like hard-nosed, humble guys).

I hear you there completely. I like Leary and you're correct it would probably be wise to lock him up in the 3-4 range considering that knee condition and not requesting BIG money that will likely be commanded by Fred/Martin...more so Fred bc of his position, etc. That may also be a factor in his negotiations in that the team took a flyer and paid him the highest SB of any UDFA in a minute (don't quote me there). I love some OL and will make the transition so much easier on the next QB when Romo call it quits.
 

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McClain is just as important to this defense

If he can keep his head in the game he is an incredible MLB with physical skills and instinct that even Lee has hard time competing. Imagine if he can get a full year under his belt and a full off season to get ready. Again, assuming he can keep his head.
 

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Do we pick up his contract? The guy has been on a mission lately and is playing at an all pro level. In all honesty, I thought he was just going to be a one year type of guy. Sure looks like one of our best defenders at the moment.

His style of play is only going to allow our DE's more opportunities at sacks. He has been doing a tremendous job of flushing the quarterback out of the pocket, or at least putting pressure on them.

Nope.

Let everybody walk. Let's start all over.... AT EVERY POSITION.

What's 20 more years?
 

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Can't understand why these type of threads are started with almost half the season left. Melton has played pretty well but lets wait until the season is over before deciding to pick up his contract.

its a message board
 

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Yeah its one thing about this defensive line....just from watching them this first season......I think there's some good guys on that line. Some hard workers. But there's only ONE elite talent on that line. That on his best day can start on any defensive line in this league......and that's Melton. He's the only legit playmaker we have on that line. Not the only good one we have. The only premiere talent. And he's getting better every week. I hope Lawrence becomes that guy. I think there was a time when Spencer was that guy. But coming off the formation change, age and injury.....I think he's just a above average talent on that line. But he too is also getting better with each week.

Melton is a BEAST. Crawford has potential as well. He's been making plays out there.

That Lett quick twitch that left him unabated is likely the type of play you are speaking of and agree with you here completely. That is the natural first step (with the strength)that is rare in this league. Crawford is the rotation guy (great wiggle) and creating a name for himself (once he learns how to chop properly;)) he will find some stats as well. Poor guy forgets every time...they trap your thigh homie!
 
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