Do we prefer the new Romo?

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We asked for it...we demanded it...we got it!

The new, no turnover Tony. Of course, we produced at lot less points but ran for over 200 yards for the second game in a row.

Is this the team we should see from now on? A lower scoring offense based on the run with Tony acting as a bus driver? Or will we miss the gunslinger that puts up three TDs and 300+ yards a game with an increased risk of turnover?

Can we win against the Giants or Eagles, or Packers, or Saints with this offense? Can the defense play to a level that will allow this type of game plan?

I, for one, hated seeing Tony caged up last Monday, but I liked it better than the three picks against the Giants.

Which Romo should we see from now on? Please don't say the obvious: that he should play somewhere in the middle. I don't think Tony's makeup and Garrett's game planning allow for somewhere in the middle.
 

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I think that there is tooooooo much pressure on Romo atm. Is he for real is he not. is he this is he that. Despite what anyways says, being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys is "something else" That being said, I think we will see a more "conservative Tony" as long as the other opponents allow us to run.

This will bring him back confidence, and start relaxing a bit.
 

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Did Troy Aikman sling it around and did Dallas always score a crapload of points? No. They didn't.

Hell, Aikman's numbers were good. Not great.

But, The dude's got 3 rings and is in the HOF.

This is the same stupid logic that the WR's Dallas have now can't fill the void of T-blow's 34 tds. So what. Still got Dallas nothing.

IF this team plays AS A team and somehow wins a playoff game, a Super Bowl. It WON'T be because of a "gunslinger"...
 

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Sorry, but it should be in the middle. We still saw some of the play making ability and I really don't think Garrett caged him up as much as the blitz pressure from Carolina and the down and distance issues we faced.

That said, I think we did scale back a bit from normal in those long down and distances where in the past we would have opened it up.

And, I believe we would have scored 30 with Marion Barber. With the missed blitz pickups and the reluctance to run the ball at the goaline we cost ourselves at least 10 points.

We have seen this before from Tony after a bad game. In his heyday this was the typical Troy Aikman week so I don't see why anybody should complain. Tony was a yard away from 1 passing TD and a Williams bobble away from another.
 

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fortdick;2981200 said:
We asked for it...we demanded it...we got it!

The new, no turnover Tony. Of course, we produced at lot less points but ran for over 200 yards for the second game in a row.

Is this the team we should see from now on? A lower scoring offense based on the run with Tony acting as a bus driver? Or will we miss the gunslinger that puts up three TDs and 300+ yards a game with an increased risk of turnover?

Can we win against the Giants or Eagles, or Packers, or Saints with this offense? Can the defense play to a level that will allow this type of game plan?

I, for one, hated seeing Tony caged up last Monday, but I liked it better than the three picks against the Giants.

Which Romo should we see from now on? Please don't say the obvious: that he should play somewhere in the middle. I don't think Tony's makeup and Garrett's game planning allow for somewhere in the middle.

New Romo? He had career day in week 1 he has a career day 353 yards with 3 TD passes no ints and no fumbles

Week 2 127 yards 1 TD pass, ran for a TD but threw 3 ints although he did not have a fumble

Now week 3 decent yards no TD but no ints or fumbles

I don't think the Cowboys were looking to change Romo because of the Giants game it was a bad game he was not on target but I don't think the Cowboys are going alter plays because of that bad game. I think they still have the faith in Romo that he is a quality QB and when the oppertunity to attack teams down field present themselfs we will take those shots. I do think the plan to have Dallas run the ball has little to do with Romo and more to do with the talent we have in the backfield.
 
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fortdick;2981200 said:
We asked for it...we demanded it...we got it!

The new, no turnover Tony. Of course, we produced at lot less points but ran for over 200 yards for the second game in a row.

Is this the team we should see from now on? A lower scoring offense based on the run with Tony acting as a bus driver? Or will we miss the gunslinger that puts up three TDs and 300+ yards a game with an increased risk of turnover?

Can we win against the Giants or Eagles, or Packers, or Saints with this offense? Can the defense play to a level that will allow this type of game plan?

I, for one, hated seeing Tony caged up last Monday, but I liked it better than the three picks against the Giants.

Which Romo should we see from now on? Please don't say the obvious: that he should play somewhere in the middle. I don't think Tony's makeup and Garrett's game planning allow for somewhere in the middle.

Romo was NOT caged up last Monday night.

Carolina played a conservative Tampa cover-2 defense and was determined that Romo wasn't going to beat them deep. As a result, the shorter stuff was available and that's what Romo took. It also opened things up in the running game.

If defenses start stacking up the LOS with 8 and 9 guys to stop the run, you will see Romo going deep again.

It is not an issue of Romo being caged up. It is an issue of adjusting to what the defense is trying to take away from Romo and the offense.

At some point, Romo will have to win games for the Cowboys. Hopefully he'll be able to do that when the time comes. He didn't have to Monday night.
 

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fortdick;2981200 said:
We asked for it...we demanded it...we got it!

The new, no turnover Tony. Of course, we produced at lot less points but ran for over 200 yards for the second game in a row.

Is this the team we should see from now on? A lower scoring offense based on the run with Tony acting as a bus driver? Or will we miss the gunslinger that puts up three TDs and 300+ yards a game with an increased risk of turnover?

Can we win against the Giants or Eagles, or Packers, or Saints with this offense? Can the defense play to a level that will allow this type of game plan?

I, for one, hated seeing Tony caged up last Monday, but I liked it better than the three picks against the Giants.

Which Romo should we see from now on? Please don't say the obvious: that he should play somewhere in the middle. I don't think Tony's makeup and Garrett's game planning allow for somewhere in the middle.

I'd like to see Romo alternate between gun slinger and game manager (I hate the term 'bus driver') based on the game and how the defense is attacking us.

Meaning, when Romo is on and the offense is rolling, I don't mind the increased risk of turnovers because the risk/reward factor swings heavily in our favor. But I hate the gunslinging Romo when it's clear the defense is taking away our deep game, Romo appears off and yet there he is, slinging it deep into double coverage anyway.

IMO, it was when Peyton learned how to balanace how and why to attack a defense that he was able to win a Super Bowl. If Romo improves to the level we want, I don't see why he can't turn it on and off as to what approach he's going to take.
 

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Darkhound;2981214 said:
I think that there is tooooooo much pressure on Romo atm. Is he for real is he not. is he this is he that. Despite what anyways says, being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys is "something else" That being said, I think we will see a more "conservative Tony" as long as the other opponents allow us to run.

This will bring him back confidence, and start relaxing a bit.


The funny thing about all this is. If Tony continues this kind of play 67% and 0 TD's and controls the game everyone will say that it is the team around him and he is not that good. That is what they say to this day about Aikman. Just a very good bus driver since he did not put up gaudy numbers.

It is a lose lose situation from a media perspectiuve at this point unless he puts up gaudy numbers and he wins in the postseason. I don't think at this point he will ever get the respect he deserves unless he does both a few years in a row.
 

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The old Romo was fine when he was throwing to the right color jerseys and not fumbling.
 

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I dont think the less points can be attributed to NEW Romo vs OLD Romo. Take away at least 3 drive killing penalties and we probably put up close to 30 points on offense. The Panthers also did a nice job of pressuring Romo on third down in the first half.
 

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...much of Romo's issues this year has been consistency.

On one play he drops the literal "marble in the funnel" on a deep out in between defenders and then the next play he leads Witten poorly on a crossing route that results in a fluke int.

He's playing at an acceptable level and could work on his accuracy.
 

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Romo doesn't look like he's changed much to me. The play where he bounced around and then threw it back across the field was classic Romo. Carolina had good coverage and pressure early in the game, and then our road graders took over. There was no need to throw it 45 times.

He missed a few shots at Roy for big gains, but it's a whole lot easier to see the field from my seat without anyone trying to take my head off.
 

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Jack Burton;2981278 said:
Romo doesn't look like he's changed much to me. The play where he bounced around and then threw it back across the field was classic Romo.

Agreed. That was sweet.

I also agree with a little of both from Romo. Slinger and game manager.
 

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Tony wasnt caged up, we had 200 yards rushing.. Last i checked we were 5the league in PPG and 3rd in the league in YPG.

Its nice that Tecmo Bowl Garrett is sticking with what is working instead of forcing things, with the expection of that goal line debacle.
 

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It's the same Romo. The results and execution were just better.
 

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That wild pass across the field to Choice didn't look to conservative to me.

It's 3 games in and every team has to get it's groove and find it's strengths and weaknesses. I doubt any fundamental change was initiated by games 1 and two and even less by outside scrutiny.
 

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elcocinero;2981292 said:
Tony wasnt caged up, we had 200 yards rushing.. Last i checked we were 5the league in PPG and 3rd in the league in YPG.

Its nice that Tecmo Bowl Garrett is sticking with what is working instead of forcing things, with the expection of that goal line debacle.

Found this interesting

Right now (granted only 3 games) Dallas is 9th in the NFL in rushing attempts and lead the NFL in rushing yards. Dallas is 27th in passing attempts and rank 14th in passing yards but rank 4th in yards per attempt.
 

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I don't know if I'd say this is the "new Romo". There were two quite obvious throws he should have never made.

One. Obviously the throw across the field. I don't care that it worked, its way too risky, and had it been picked, it would have gone for 6 pts. And then to see Romo smiling after it pretty much told me that he still hasn't learned his lesson.

The other throw was the one to RW on the sideline. What looked like a perfect throw in between the CB and the LB, was actually a poor decision. Yes, it was a nice completion, and the throw was absolutely threading the needle. However, when a linebacker drops off like that it really forces you to squeeze the ball into a TINY area. I would say this is a INT 50% of the time. And its a throw where many of Romo's picks have happened.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can here some of you guys now saying "yeah, but he made it, it was a beautiful throw", or in regards to the across the field throw "Yeah, but Romo knew nobody except Choice was over there"

Nonesense. These are the throws that get him in trouble. Just because they were completions this week doesn't mean they aren't picks next week.

I love Romo, and I think he's outstanding, but Jesus man, you HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BALL. Until he does, this team will not go to its ultimate destination.
 

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CowboyWay;2981314 said:
I don't know if I'd say this is the "new Romo". There were two quite obvious throws he should have never made.

One. Obviously the throw across the field. I don't care that it worked, its way too risky, and had it been picked, it would have gone for 6 pts. And then to see Romo smiling after it pretty much told me that he still hasn't learned his lesson.

The other throw was the one to RW on the sideline. What looked like a perfect throw in between the CB and the LB, was actually a poor decision. Yes, it was a nice completion, and the throw was absolutely threading the needle. However, when a linebacker drops off like that it really forces you to squeeze the ball into a TINY area. I would say this is a INT 50% of the time. And its a throw where many of Romo's picks have happened.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can here some of you guys now saying "yeah, but he made it, it was a beautiful throw", or in regards to the across the field throw "Yeah, but Romo knew nobody except Choice was over there"

Nonesense. These are the throws that get him in trouble. Just because they were completions this week doesn't mean they aren't picks next week.

I love Romo, and I think he's outstanding, but Jesus man, you HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BALL. Until he does, this team will not go to its ultimate destination.

There was nothing wrong with that second throw yes the window he put it through was not all that big but NFL QB's are expected to make the throws between the underneith man and the guy over the top. There was a bit more room than it looked like but it was a great pass
 
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