Do we prefer the new Romo?

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Doomsday101;2981321 said:
There was nothing wrong with that second throw yes the window he put it through was not all that big but NFL QB's are expected to make the throws between the underneith man and the guy over the top. There was a bit more room than it looked like but it was a great pass

It was a great pass, but its also one that few qb's can make consistantly. There isn't a coach in the league that wants his qb to make that throw. Had the defender not tripped, or had he been just a tad quicker, he would have backpeddled that into a pick. As it was, it was only 4 inches above his hands anyway.

It was a poor decision. But Romo got lucky. Do you expect him to make that throw and not get it picked off 75% of the time?

If you have it tivo'd, go back and look how close that play was to getting picked.
 

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CowboyWay;2981335 said:
It was a great pass, but its also one that few qb's can make consistantly. There isn't a coach in the league that wants his qb to make that throw. Had the defender not tripped, or had he been just a tad quicker, he would have backpeddled that into a pick. As it was, it was only 4 inches above his hands anyway.

It was a poor decision. But Romo got lucky. Do you expect him to make that throw and not get it picked off 75% of the time?

If you have it tivo'd, go back and look how close that play was to getting picked.

That pass is made every weekend what are you talking about. it was a great throw nothing lucky about it as high as the CB jumped he could not reach it and it was dropped in to the WR. I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with big league QB's making big league throws you can't stand there waiting until guys are all alone as they do in college you have to be able to make those throws or you don't last long in the NFL
 

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Doomsday101;2981344 said:
That pass is made every weekend what are you talking about. it was a great throw nothing lucky about it as high as the CB jumped he could not reach it and it was dropped in to the WR. I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with big league QB's making big league throws you can't stand there waiting until guys are all alone as they do in college you have to be able to make those throws or you don't last long in the NFL

It was a big time throw. But it was one that has 50% fail rate written all over it. How many picks have you seen Romo make where the LB drops off at an angle towards the sideline and BAM, picks it right from Romo? A TON. Its one of his weakest areas of reading the defense.

I don't believe Romo even saw the guy to be truthful. It worked out, it was a completion. But if you think any NFL coach in the league wants his qb to make that throw, you're crazy. Its way too risky of a throw.
 

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CowboyWay;2981362 said:
It was a big time throw. But it was one that has 50% fail rate written all over it. How many picks have you seen Romo make where the LB drops off at an angle towards the sideline and BAM, picks it right from Romo? A TON. Its one of his weakest areas of reading the defense.

I don't believe Romo even saw the guy to be truthful. It worked out, it was a completion. But if you think any NFL coach in the league wants his qb to make that throw, you're crazy. Its way too risky of a throw.

I'm sorry I disagree. I think Romo saw the defenders his man was open on the sideline and he made a good throw period. It is not that uncommon to see those throws in the NFL. If Romo gets to a point where he is afraid to make the throws then he does not need to be playing the game. As far as coaches it was a coach on the NFL network who commented on it being a great pass by Romo sorry if you think it was so risky and no I'm not crazy I just evidently understand the game better than you or you would not be making stupid comments like that
 

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Doomsday101;2981371 said:
I'm sorry I disagree. I think Romo saw the defenders his man was open on the sideline and he made a good throw period. It is not that uncommon to see those throws in the NFL. If Romo gets to a point where he is afraid to make the throws then he does not need to be playing the game. As far as coaches it was a coach on the NFL network who commented on it being a great pass by Romo sorry if you think it was so risky and no I'm not crazy I just evidently understand the game better than you or you would not be making stupid comments like that


So you're basically saying its cool for a qb who struggles with picks, in tight games to throw in double coverage? Cause thats what your saying.

You want your qb to throw to a WR who has a CB behind him and LB in front of him to throw the ball in between them?

I think you and Mike Martz share DNA.

How about the other play I mentioned? You liked the throw across the field to Choice? Let me guess......Most NFL qb's are expected to make that throw too? I am glad you're not our Offensive Coordinator. Romo could end up with 50 picks per year.
 

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CowboyWay;2981362 said:
It was a big time throw. But it was one that has 50% fail rate written all over it. How many picks have you seen Romo make where the LB drops off at an angle towards the sideline and BAM, picks it right from Romo? A TON. Its one of his weakest areas of reading the defense.

I don't believe Romo even saw the guy to be truthful. It worked out, it was a completion. But if you think any NFL coach in the league wants his qb to make that throw, you're crazy. Its way too risky of a throw.

The first throw in question, the one across the other side of the field has a completion rate of 5% I bet. LOL. NEVER make that throw.

The other throw was sweet. Put in the perfect place.
 

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CowboyWay;2981388 said:
So you're basically saying its cool for a qb who struggles with picks, in tight games to throw in double coverage? Cause thats what your saying.

You want your qb to throw to a WR who has a CB behind him and LB in front of him to throw the ball in between them?

I think you and Mike Martz share DNA.

How about the other play I mentioned? You liked the throw across the field to Choice? Let me guess......Most NFL qb's are expected to make that throw too? I am glad you're not our Offensive Coordinator. Romo could end up with 50 picks per year.

I'm saying Romo had a bad game vs Giants he can't hang onto that all year long you put it behind you outside of that sorry Romo int ratio is not and has not been that high since he has been a starter. He has had issues with fumbles not a big problem over his career with ints. Romo can make the throws and when he sees an open man it is his job as QB to make the throws.

As far as the 1st throw across the field that is an extremely dangerous pass to make and you better make sure no one is anywhere close to the man you are throwing to. All in all I would tell a QB not to make that throw just because an ints on that pass is a sure TD for the defense if they pick it.
 

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Hook'em#11;2981389 said:
The first throw in question, the one across the other side of the field has a completion rate of 5% I bet. LOL. NEVER make that throw.

The other throw was sweet. Put in the perfect place.

It was damn sweet. I agree. However, truthfully, can you say you want to see Romo attempt that 2-3 times a game? I honestly want to know.
 

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CowboyWay;2981405 said:
It was damn sweet. I agree. However, truthfully, can you say you want to see Romo attempt that 2-3 times a game? I honestly want to know.

I have no problem with it if the man is open and he was. My god any poorly thrown pass can be int but you don't stop throwing to open WR because it could be picked off. You have no business being an NFL QB if you can't make the throws. That play was not as close as it looked on TV look at the yard markers between where the DB was and where the WR was .
 

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Doomsday101;2981410 said:
I have no problem with it i.

neither will anyone else, because it worked. but had that pass been picked off, which it very nearly could have been, or the multiple other times a lb dropped off and picked off similar throws, all of us would be saying 'same ol romo'.

i don't give him a pass for it. same for the throw across his body. just cause it worked, doesn't mean it was a good decision.
 

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Hook'em#11;2981215 said:
Did Troy Aikman sling it around and did Dallas always score a crapload of points? No. They didn't.

Hell, Aikman's numbers were good. Not great.

But, The dude's got 3 rings and is in the HOF.

This is the same stupid logic that the WR's Dallas have now can't fill the void of T-blow's 34 tds. So what. Still got Dallas nothing.

IF this team plays AS A team and somehow wins a playoff game, a Super Bowl. It WON'T be because of a "gunslinger"...

yeah Aikman did that with one of, if not the best, running back in history and an outstanding defense that could easily allow you to win loads of games 21-14 or stuff like that. Our defense was awesome monday but I don't know if they can consistenly do what they did. Hopefully they can.


That said I'd like a middle ground between the two but I'm cool with whatever happens as long as we win. No turnovers is huge. That's two times in three games he's done it. I want to see him protect that ball like that as much as possible.
 

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Hook'em#11;2981389 said:
The other throw was sweet. Put in the perfect place.

I think he could have thrown it a bit higher and still completed it (RW caught it about waist high), but it was a good throw.

The pick-6 against the Giants was a similiar kind of throw (over an underneath zone) but Romo just made a terrible throw.

I agree that NFL quarterbacks have to make that throw.
 

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Romo has never had two consecutive starts without an INT or FUMBLE. I would love to see him go a few games without either....If that requires him to be a bus driver, so be it.....
 

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in a word, no .he took what the panthers gave him and didnt attempt suicidal throws,that's got to be good.
 

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CowboyWay;2981423 said:
neither will anyone else, because it worked. but had that pass been picked off, which it very nearly could have been, or the multiple other times a lb dropped off and picked off similar throws, all of us would be saying 'same ol romo'.

i don't give him a pass for it. same for the throw across his body. just cause it worked, doesn't mean it was a good decision.

As i said it is a throw that is made every week in the NFL and if you can't throw that pass chances are you have no business playing QB in the NFL it is not that risky of a pass.
 

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fortdick;2981200 said:
We asked for it...we demanded it...we got it!

The new, no turnover Tony. Of course, we produced at lot less points but ran for over 200 yards for the second game in a row.

Barber didnt play so you need to ask this question after a bunch of games with BOTH playing.



aikemirv;2981222 said:
Sorry, but it should be in the middle. We still saw some of the play making ability and I really don't think Garrett caged him up as much as the blitz pressure from Carolina and the down and distance issues we faced.

That said, I think we did scale back a bit from normal in those long down and distances where in the past we would have opened it up.

And, I believe we would have scored 30 with Marion Barber. With the missed blitz pickups and the reluctance to run the ball at the goaline we cost ourselves at least 10 points.

We have seen this before from Tony after a bad game. In his heyday this was the typical Troy Aikman week so I don't see why anybody should complain. Tony was a yard away from 1 passing TD and a Williams bobble away from another.


I saw some of the old Tony the other night. Run when its there. They dont need to know you will ALWAYS be back there. Come playoff time that hurt us and will hurt us again.
 

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YoMick;2981578 said:
Barber didnt play so you need to ask this question after a bunch of games with BOTH playing.






I saw some of the old Tony the other night. Run when its there. They dont need to know you will ALWAYS be back there. Come playoff time that hurt us and will hurt us again.

Good points. I was glad to see him pull it down and run. He has that ability and if he uses it it will keep the pass rush down. They have to contain as well as rush.

I didn't think about MBIII not being in there for the blitz pick up and that coulod be a huge improvement. Not to mention the two fade routes. If MBIII had been in there, just punch it in.

It will be interesting to see which way Tony goes this season. It might be the start of a HoF run if he cuts down the turnovers but still manages to put up the numbers.

Could be we see the maturation process coming on.
 

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I'll take a hybrid of both. I still want him to be a threat in the passing game but I also don't want him throwing 35+ times a game.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2981676 said:
I'll take a hybrid of both. I still want him to be a threat in the passing game but I also don't want him throwing 35+ times a game.

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Like I said ..... Both.
 
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