Do we really need to draft a RB early?

[Whyjerry]

Im not sure if thats the best way to go for this draft. I mean if somehow Robinson falls to 26 or Gibbs is available in Round 2 you probably should go for it but otherwise?

We have a clear starter in Pollard and added Ronald Jones in FA. Just a reminder. Jones was a 2nd Round Pick in 2018, is only 25 and won two SB already and scored 20 TDs in his career.

Even if we let Pollard walk next season after the Tag we can still draft his replacement in next years draft.

With the rumours of us drafting a TE or even WR early i dont like drafting a RB early.

I much rather focus on OL, DL and CB early with TE and WR next.

We also still have Malik Davis who showed flashes of being able to play and Rico Dowdle who is still a big ?? because he spent most of his career on IR but its clear the Cowboys like him given that they still keep him now.

Im fine taking a chance on a RB in Rounds 5-7 because you can still find starting RB and Gems in those rounds at that position.

They don’t. A quality back will be there in rounds 3 or 4.

 

[Majic]

Yes. Especially if they are considering bring Zeke back. Good grief.

They are not seriously considering that

 

[Mr_437]

That’s fine…it’s just awful value IMO if you only think the homerun can be had in the 1st round.

I actually would rather have a more physical runner to pair with TP as I think that would give us a bit more balance. But if you want another HR hitter then Achane, Mitchell or again Izzy would be much better value than drafting a rotational RB in the 1st.

You have a valid approach. I value a physical RB even later in the draft like Chris Rodriguez, Tiyon Evans...SEC bangers. I do like Miller tho.

 

[CATCH17]

Yes if it’s Gibbs. He’s much more than just a RB. He’s a homerun threat every time he gets the ball.

Yep..

Gibbs position is RB but he could be the focal point of the entire offense in the pass game.

He’s Kamara with rockets for feet.

 

[cnuball21]

You have a valid approach. I value a physical RB even later in the draft like Chris Rodriguez, Tiyon Evans...SEC bangers. I do like Miller tho.

Miller is probably my favorite blend of talent and value.

Achane is interesting though. Dude is small and can obviously fly but isn’t afraid to mix it up inside as he broke a ton of tackles. He’s been a volume horse too.

If they decide to pick him I wouldn’t be mad at all.

 

[xwalker]

Im not sure if thats the best way to go for this draft. I mean if somehow Robinson falls to 26 or Gibbs is available in Round 2 you probably should go for it but otherwise?

We have a clear starter in Pollard and added Ronald Jones in FA. Just a reminder. Jones was a 2nd Round Pick in 2018, is only 25 and won two SB already and scored 20 TDs in his career.

Even if we let Pollard walk next season after the Tag we can still draft his replacement in next years draft.

With the rumours of us drafting a TE or even WR early i dont like drafting a RB early.

I much rather focus on OL, DL and CB early with TE and WR next.

We also still have Malik Davis who showed flashes of being able to play and Rico Dowdle who is still a big ?? because he spent most of his career on IR but its clear the Cowboys like him given that they still keep him now.

Im fine taking a chance on a RB in Rounds 5-7 because you can still find starting RB and Gems in those rounds at that position.

The Pollard injury made it abundantly clear what the roster was missing.
- Juice on offense. Pollard and CeeDee were the only players in that category.
- A legit backup option at RB to Pollard. Zeke was obviously not it.

Free agency comes before the draft.
- If they "let Pollard walk" next year, then they're forced to draft a RB early.

Of the 32 lead RBs in 2022, over 50% were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round...

 

[xwalker]

Miller is probably my favorite blend of talent and value.

Achane is interesting though. Dude is small and can obviously fly but isn’t afraid to mix it up inside as he broke a ton of tackles. He’s been a volume horse too.

If they decide to pick him I wouldn’t be mad at all.

I think Miller is the most dynamic of the 210+ pound RBs (other than Bijan).
- He did have some fumble issues.

Achane is a dynamic runner and good receiver.
- He only had 2 total fumbles in 3 college seasons.

I would lean towards waiting until round 3 and drafting the best available between Miller, Achane and Spears.

 

[cnuball21]

I think Miller is the most dynamic of the 210+ pound RBs (other than Bijan).
- He did have some fumble issues.

Achane is a dynamic runner and good receiver.
- He only had 2 total fumbles in 3 college seasons.

I would lean towards waiting until round 3 and drafting the best available between Miller, Achane and Spears.

100% agree. I think rounds 3-5 are the sweet spot.

 

[xwalker]

That’s fine…it’s just awful value IMO if you only think the homerun can be had in the 1st round. I think a mid rounder from this years class would be fine taking over as a full time back on we don’t have to pay Pollard long term.

I actually would rather have a more physical runner to pair with TP this year as I think that would give us a bit more balance. But if you want another HR hitter then Achane, Mitchell or again Izzy would be much better value than drafting a rotational RB in the 1st.

Gibbs receiving ability makes it difficult to put an exact value on him.

Some people think Gibbs (5-9, 199) would be as good of a slot WR as Flowers (5-9, 180).

 

[Kolemmitt]

I think Miller is the most dynamic of the 210+ pound RBs (other than Bijan).
- He did have some fumble issues.

Achane is a dynamic runner and good receiver.
- He only had 2 total fumbles in 3 college seasons.

I would lean towards waiting until round 3 and drafting the best available between Miller, Achane and Spears.

Miller fan. Out of Bijan, I can see Miller being a plus starter if we choose to let Pollard walk at the end of the year, or if Pollard gets injured again.

 

[cnuball21]

Gibbs receiving ability makes it difficult to put an exact value on him.

Some people think Gibbs (5-9, 199) would be as good of a slot WR as Flowers (5-9, 180).

I’m sorry what? That’s absolutely absurd.
Gibbs is a great pass catching RB. He excels at dumpoffs in the flat and texas routes but comparing him to Flowers is laughable.

Flowers is also not a slot WR. He wins at all 3 levels - inside and out.

 

[Spottswoode]

Do we really “need” to draft any position early? I think Dallas has done a great job in preparation this year and I feel like we can field a team today that’s better than last year. If I were a Philly fan, I might think differently about my team.

The only position I am that concerned about is a day 1 OL starter, mostly because of injury concerns with Tyron & Steele and possible FA issues next year. IMO, we should be preparing for an OL rebuild in the not too distant future. I would love DL attention too but this is the Cowboys, so I’ll trust Quinn’s judgement.

 

[Spottswoode]

I’m sorry what? That’s absolutely absurd.
Gibbs is a great pass catching RB. He excels at dumpoffs in the flat and texas routes but comparing him to Flowers is laughable.

Flowers is also not a slot WR. He wins at all 3 levels - inside and out.

In fairness, it’s not anymore absurd that you continuing to harp on Gibbs only being a backup/rotational player. You have made it crystal clear through posts on many threads that you don’t like Gibbs early and that’s fine.

It’s pretty clear from the Gibbs fans that they envision him being used beyond a traditional RB role. If that were not the case, I don’t think there would be these disagreements. But to continue to discount those caveats and use a false narrative to make your point seems a little disingenuous.

 

[cnuball21]

Do we really “need” to draft any position early? I think Dallas has done a great job in preparation this year and I feel like we can field a team today that’s better than last year. If I were a Philly fan, I might think differently about my team.

The only position I am that concerned about is a day 1 OL starter, mostly because of injury concerns with Tyron & Steele and possible FA issues next year. IMO, we should be preparing for an OL rebuild in the not too distant future. I would love DL attention too but this is the Cowboys, so I’ll trust Quinn’s judgement.

Agree. For the first time in a long time we’ve crushed FA in attacking some of our bigger needs so we should be able to be free and go BPA in the draft.

Question is will the Cowboys actually do it? That’s my only concern.

 

[cnuball21]

In fairness, it’s not anymore absurd that you continuing to harp on Gibbs only being a backup/rotational player. You have made it crystal clear through posts on many threads that you don’t like Gibbs early and that’s fine.

It’s pretty clear from the Gibbs fans that they envision him being used beyond a traditional RB role. If that were not the case, I don’t think there would be these disagreements. But to continue to discount those caveats and use a false narrative to make your point seems a little disingenuous.

I love Gibbs and his skill set. I just call it like I see it and some of the analysts actually agree he’s a high end rotational RB. I don’t like the value of that kind of player in round 1.

I think he’ll be a phenomenal pass catching RB. The other poster said he could be a better slot WR than Flowers who is arguably WR1 this year…seems kinda nuts to me and none of the other Gibbs fans have said anything close to that but feel free to disagree.

 

[Spottswoode]

I love Gibbs and his skill set. I just call it like I see it and some of the analysts actually agree he’s a high end rotational RB. I don’t like the value of that kind of player in round 1.

I think he’ll be a phenomenal pass catching RB. The other poster said he could be a better slot WR than Flowers who is arguably WR1 this year…seems kinda nuts to me and none of the other Gibbs fans have said anything close to that but feel free to disagree.

I agree that he will likely be a rotational RB in the sense that I don’t see him as a 25-30 carry back in the NFL. But when analysts say “high end rotational RB”, it is typically in reference to your traditional bell cow type backs who get substituted for a series or two a game. IMO, he & Pollard are not that type of back. They are multi dimensional backs and should be used that way.

Pollard had almost 1400 yards on less than 15 touches/game and was underutilized in the passing game. With Zeke gone, there are similar touches available and that is in a more traditional rotational role like last year. Keep them both on the field together more frequently and leverage their expanded skill sets and you are adding a big time playmaker, addressing some of your receiving deficiencies, and adding a degree of creativity to your offense that Dallas hasn’t employed in years.

RB wouldn’t be my first choice either, mainly because we didn’t see Pollard used that way. But if McCarthy would leverage them according to their skill sets, I can see a lot of possibilities.

 

[cnuball21]

I agree that he will likely be a rotational RB in the sense that I don’t see him as a 25-30 carry back in the NFL. But when analysts say “high end rotational RB”, it is typically in reference to your traditional bell cow type backs who get substituted for a series or two a game. IMO, he & Pollard are not that type of back. They are multi dimensional backs and should be used that way.

Pollard had almost 1400 yards on less than 15 touches/game and was underutilized in the passing game. With Zeke gone, there are similar touches available and that is in a more traditional rotational role like last year. Keep them both on the field together more frequently and leverage their expanded skill sets and you are adding a big time playmaker, addressing some of your receiving deficiencies, and adding a degree of creativity to your offense that Dallas hasn’t employed in years.

RB wouldn’t be my first choice either, mainly because we didn’t see Pollard used that way. But if McCarthy would leverage them according to their skill sets, I can see a lot of possibilities.

You bring up a good point “if we use them right.” That’s another one of my biggest concerns with Gibbs in the 1st. Will we actually throw him the ball? Traditionally Dak and this offense don’t throw the ball to the RBs so it might be a waste of his skill set.

Also - when you look at all if the best catching RBs in football…CMac, Kamara, Ekeler and Swift I think Ekeler is the only one that’s been able to stay healthy and they’re all bigger.

Again - I really like Gibbs and his skill set. Just too many concern for me in the 1st round for me.