Do you really expect this to be a good team?

StarBoyz83

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JackWagon;4662090 said:
FRankly this o line is gonna cost us. Romo can make any receiver look good with enough time to look down field. With this O Line he wont be able to do that. Sorry Romo Witten and Ware ... doesnt look like you will be playing in any SBs soon .. if at all.

For sure not even counting in playoffs this year let alone the sb. But next year and the year after that is a must for these 3 to get a ring if its gonna happen. All 3 sure deserve it but malone and stockton never got one. (From utah lol)
 

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StarBoyz83;4662190 said:
For sure not even counting in playoffs this year let alone the sb. But next year and the year after that is a must for these 3 to get a ring if its gonna happen. All 3 sure deserve it but malone and stockton never got one. (From utah lol)

There are a lot of good players that never held up the Lombardi, some even hall of famers.
 

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I do not EXPECT the Cowboys to be a good team in 2012.

I have hope that I believe is reasonably founded. I think we'll be improved on D because of the addition of Carr & Claiborne, Carter, Conner & Crawford - killer C's?

I am very bummed to have lost Robinson with no obvious replacement of equal impact. But hopeful that Dez & Austin will pick up the slack by being more healthly in 2012.

Also hoping the O-line will be better than last year as we get deeper into the season. Livings & Bern vs Kosier & Holland. A years experience for Costa, flipping the tackles. Dramatically better? No. But a bit.

Murray for 16 games - fingers crossed.

That's the basis for my HOPE that we'll be better. Not real far-fetched to think some of these will pay dividends.
 

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CoCo;4662301 said:
I do not EXPECT the Cowboys to be a good team in 2012.

I have hope that I believe is reasonably founded. I think we'll be improved on D because of the addition of Carr & Claiborne, Carter, Conner & Crawford - killer C's?

I am very bummed to have lost Robinson with no obvious replacement of equal impact. But hopeful that Dez & Austin will pick up the slack by being more healthly in 2012.

Also hoping the O-line will be better than last year as we get deeper into the season. Livings & Bern vs Kosier & Holland. A years experience for Costa, flipping the tackles. Dramatically better? No. But a bit.

Murray for 16 games - fingers crossed.

That's the basis for my HOPE that we'll be better. Not real far-fetched to think some of these will pay dividends.

Fair enough, I will say NY Giants did not look like SB champs as they went 9-7 losing 2 times to the Commanders. This can be a crazy game, Cowboys do have some impact players on both sides of the ball they will have to lead the way.
 

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cowboy_ron;4662339 said:
Cowboys...11-5

parakeets..9-7

g-strings....8-8

foreskins...6-10

Started in on the liquor early today i see. I wish it would go down like you say. I always think they are good when i get drunk too. I did it to myself last weekend watching the recap of the last season drunk. Then i sobered up the next day. True story
 

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03EBZ06;4661975 said:
This is absolutely ridiculous, nothing is forgone conclusion. It seems you want the injuries to occur just so you can be right.

If injuries happens then it happens but you shouldn't count it as absolute occurrence to a specific player. SMDH :rolleyes:

Psst! Both guys are injured right now.
 

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Its all about being healthy. That OL does scare me however it is what it is.
 

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This team could be much imporved over last year's team, and still have a worst record.

I think that the FO couldn't help themselves and not go for the splash on draft day. Had they stayed the course, and drafted the best player at 14 or traded up for extra picks, they could have come up with a guard and a center. The secondary could of still been in good shape with Jenkins, Carr and Scandrick. Our OL could have been much improved as well, and Costa could have taken over for Rowdy as the mascot.

Instead the FO did what they love to do, go for the splash further upgrading a position you just upgraded, and fooling yourself and your fans into believing that the bringing two fa guards and keeping the same lousy center is a good idea. They also made no upgrades to a another major weekness, the safety position.

Let's hope this DL can stop the run, because if they don't, these shiny new toys at CB won't be seeing many passes coming their way.

There are surprising teams every year, my hope is that this is the Cowboys year to surprise. Barring that I see no better than an 8-8 team, picking a 10-12 in the draft looking to make another splash, and ignoring the area of needs.
 

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JackWagon;4662090 said:
FRankly this o line is gonna cost us. Romo can make any receiver look good with enough time to look down field. With this O Line he wont be able to do that. Sorry Romo Witten and Ware ... doesnt look like you will be playing in any SBs soon .. if at all.

Romo was able to have a career year behind the OL in 2011 look at his stats. The OL has issues no question about that but I'm willing to wager it will be at least slightly improved over what we saw last season.
 

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I usually take a wait and see attitude, but I can't help but think the Dallas Cowboys will be a better team in 2012.

Ryan was a first-year coordinator in Dallas with a complex scheme and no offseason to teach it. The secondary let receivers run wild, but both starting corners have been replaced by physical guys who fit Ryan's system and are just better than the guys whose positions they took. Elam was average at best, and while Church will be a first-year starter, he's bigger, younger, more athletic and is demonstrating himself to be a better cover guy. Sean Lee is the relentless leader of the defense. He's in his third year in the League and second under Ryan, and he's really coming into his own. Carter and Conner are definitely upgrades in speed and talent, if not only because James/Brooking were O-L-D. Across the DL, we have young guys pushing the vets out. One or both of Speares and Coleman are probably gone, replaced in the rotation by Hatcher, Lissemore and Tyrone Crawford, all of whom have pocket-pushing ability at the DL position that the Dallas D has sorely lacked.

On the offensive side of the ball, Dez has dropped some weight, improved his route-running and learned the full playbook. Miles' hammy is worrisome, but I'll wait to freak out when he starts missing games in the regular season. I choose to believe Garrett when he says Costa's MRI revealed no issues and I'm ready to give Costa the benefit of the doubt; he has almost an entire season of starting experience under his belt as well as the benefit of an entire offseason in a pro weight program and a full training camp. Bernadeau is a physical veteran replacing a hodgepodge of rookies who played at one guard spot last year. Livings' status is up in the air, but I'm betting he'll be back before October, and I think he has to be an upgrade over Kyle Kosier, who was contistently out-muscled at the point of attack as he began sliding along the down-side of his career. The swap of tackle positions instantly upgrades things, IMHO, as it puts our best tackle on Tony's blind side and returns Free to the right side, where he flourished in 2010. We know Murray is a stud. He's been through a full TC now, and I think you're going to see the total-package talent for which he was known in college on full display. With his minutes limited, Jones will be healthy and primed to explode. I believe that Vickers mayy turn out to be a much bigger acquisition than anyone has ever imagined, and Tony and Jason are Tony and Jason.

I don't see how anyone can discuss team changes and improvements without mentioning Callahan and Henderson. In my mind, these two guys may prove to be bigger additions than any player.

So, yeah, I think the 2012 Cowboys are definitely improved, almost across the board, and good enough to compete for the NFCE crown.

My $0.02.
 

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Really it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone that fans of all32NFL teams think they have a chance.

The Packers and Giants have both proven that you can blunder your way in the playoffs and still win.

Teams go from worst too first every year.

Why are we different?
 

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Bizwah;4662767 said:
Really it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone that fans of all32NFL teams think they have a chance.

The Packers and Giants have both proven that you can blunder your way in the playoffs and still win.

Teams go from worst too first every year.

Why are we different?


And they well should after watching a 9-7 team just win the super bowl
 

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Mr Cowboy;4662509 said:
I think that the FO couldn't help themselves and not go for the splash on draft day. Had they stayed the course, and drafted the best player at 14 or traded up for extra picks, they could have come up with a guard and a center. The secondary could of still been in good shape with Jenkins, Carr and Scandrick. Our OL could have been much improved as well, and Costa could have taken over for Rowdy as the mascot.

Instead the FO did what they love to do, go for the splash further upgrading a position you just upgraded, and fooling yourself and your fans into believing that the bringing two fa guards and keeping the same lousy center is a good idea. They also made no upgrades to a another major weekness, the safety position.
Not a word in that post I agree with. JG isn't a big splash guy. Our secondary was a major point of weakness and the chance to add the best defensive player in the league (while covering any chance of Jenkins leaving after this year) was the direction the team decided to go.
 

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I can't evaluate this team until Game 3 of Preseason when hopefully we can have a healthy line, see a bit more of DeMarco, as well as Miles.

The defense didn't look bad, just sloppy but its Week 1. I want to see Mo' suit up, as well.
 
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big dog cowboy;4663238 said:
Not a word in that post I agree with. JG isn't a big splash guy. Our secondary was a major point of weakness and the chance to add the best defensive player in the league (while covering any chance of Jenkins leaving after this year) was the direction the team decided to go.

Lol the guys (guards) he is dogging arent even playing
 

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I don't put much stock in pre-season....but if I did, watching our first team O and D tonight didn't bring my hopes up...I can tell you that.

ONE first down for our starters and the Raiders already have their seconds in.
 

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If today is any kind of indication, I'm lowing my prediction fom 8-8 to maybe 3-13 if there is some kind of divine intervention.
 

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after watching 10 minutes of the raiders game i think i had to high of hopes for 8-8. 1-15 sounds better!! lol not really but we looked all kinds of worse than i imagined.
 
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