Does Anyone Know What This Weight Equipment is Called?

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Chocolate Lab;3317801 said:
Good grief. You're one of those people who will argue about anything, aren't you?

Have you ever used this machine?

You can, and many people do, just stand straight and press out with arms and shoulders only. So how can you say she isn't using "correct" technique?

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Kristi -- that's cool. I usually lift free weights, but there's a rehab clinic that I sometimes join for a month or so at a time that has a bunch of Hammer stuff. You're making me want to go sign up and use the Jammer again. :)

I'm not arguing just pointing out why her arms are sore from using that machine. I've never used that particular machine but I've seen people use it and you're suppose to stand, lean slightly forward and squat using your legs as support. She's not able to use the proper technique because she's sitting in a wheelchair that has to be stabilized by someone using their foot to hold her chair down. The machine wasn't designed for sitting or there would be a seat there. :rolleyes: She's obviously having to compensate from sitting in a wheelchair and not being able to use the proper techniquie is putting most of the stress on her arms.
 

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Hostile;3317819 said:
Oh you have so opened yourself up to being LOLed to death in countless replies that spin off into dementia. I counted something like 17 LOLs in one response from him. Pretty much told me it wasn't worth my time to discuss anything with him.

You know all about being LOL'ed to death after our last argument may you rest in peace. LOL It's obviously still sticking in your craw. I don't what bugged you more the LOL's or the emoticons. :nana: :laugh2:
 

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Don't you think my physical therapist, the Wellness Center trainers or hell even the football players that watch me do this machine would stop me if I was in danger of hurting myself? I found a new way of using the machine to suit me. That rocks in my book! My physical therapist works with people with all disabilities -- he's not going to put me on a machine that's not going to benefit me in anyway and definitely not put me on one that is going to hurt me.

And how can you tell someone you are doing a machine wrong if you have never used one yourself? And how do you know sitting at it is so bad? Isn't the saying no pain, no gain? I'm glad my arm muscles are sore -- it means I am working out.

I'm sweating and out of breath at the end of two hours -- I think sore arms are an accomplishment of what I did that day. I did 7 different exercises on the free weights, hit the heavy bag, two different exercises on the pull down bar, stomach and back exercises on the mat (that used my arms), and this jammer on Thursday. Wouldn't you be sore after all that?

My arms, abs, and back are getting a good workout with this Jammer. All things beneficial to me for wheeling and transfers. I am in a chair -- my arms, shoulders, and back are what we work out. As Eskimo mentioned the rotator cuff surgery --- I'm trying to prevent that as best I can and keep this body going as long as possible. I've spent half my life in a chair and my rehab doc suggested a power chair, but I'm not ready for that.

I am adapting myself to the equipment I can use the best I can. That's what we do. Until the Wellness Center gets accessible equipment (and I am not holding my breath on that happening anytime soon) this is what I get to use.

Check back with me in May when this study ends and I'll let you know how my progress is and if this Jammer was beneficial to me or not.

How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D
 

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Kristi;3318176 said:
How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D
My brother David, has some funny lines.

"Got any tape?" he flexes, "I'm ripped."

"Got a band aid?" another flex, "I'm cut."

"Get your tickets," flex, "to the gun show."
 

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KJJ;3317931 said:
You know all about being LOL'ed to death after our last argument may you rest in peace. LOL It's obviously still sticking in your craw. I don't what bugged you more the LOL's or the emoticons. :nana: :laugh2:
Nothing stuck in my craw because it was completely juvenile and insignificant to me. I was talking to Chocolate Lab anyway.
 

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Hostile;3318181 said:
My brother David, has some funny lines.

"Got any tape?" he flexes, "I'm ripped."

"Got a band aid?" another flex, "I'm cut."

"Get your tickets," flex, "to the gun show."

:lmao:

PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)

Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.
 

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Hostile;3318184 said:
Nothing stuck in my craw because it was completely juvenile and insignificant to me. I was talking to Chocolate Lab anyway.

You were talking to him about me referring to our disagreement awhile back. He isn't the first poster you've mentioned this to so if it was insignificant you wouldn't keep mentioning it.
 

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Kristi;3318217 said:
:lmao:

PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)

Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.
He has another one too. I will try and remember it for you.
 

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KJJ;3318224 said:
You were talking to him about me referring to our disagreement awhile back. He isn't the first poster you've mentioned this to so if it was insignificant you wouldn't keep mentioning it.
Yeah, I would.
 

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Kristi;3318176 said:
Don't you think my physical therapist, the Wellness Center trainers or hell even the football players that watch me do this machine would stop me if I was in danger of hurting myself? I found a new way of using the machine to suit me. That rocks in my book! My physical therapist works with people with all disabilities -- he's not going to put me on a machine that's not going to benefit me in anyway and definitely not put me on one that is going to hurt me.

And how can you tell someone you are doing a machine wrong if you have never used one yourself? And how do you know sitting at it is so bad? Isn't the saying no pain, no gain? I'm glad my arm muscles are sore -- it means I am working out.

I'm sweating and out of breath at the end of two hours -- I think sore arms are an accomplishment of what I did that day. I did 7 different exercises on the free weights, hit the heavy bag, two different exercises on the pull down bar, stomach and back exercises on the mat (that used my arms), and this jammer on Thursday. Wouldn't you be sore after all that?

My arms, abs, and back are getting a good workout with this Jammer. All things beneficial to me for wheeling and transfers. I am in a chair -- my arms, shoulders, and back are what we work out. As Eskimo mentioned the rotator cuff surgery --- I'm trying to prevent that as best I can and keep this body going as long as possible. I've spent half my life in a chair and my rehab doc suggested a power chair, but I'm not ready for that.

I am adapting myself to the equipment I can use the best I can. That's what we do. Until the Wellness Center gets accessible equipment (and I am not holding my breath on that happening anytime soon) this is what I get to use.

Check back with me in May when this study ends and I'll let you know how my progress is and if this Jammer was beneficial to me or not.

How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D

I never said you were hurting yourself or in danger or that the machine won't benefit you I'm just explaining why you could be suffering soreness in just your arms. :rolleyes: It's obvious the machine wasn't designed for a handicapped person sitting in a wheelchair so you're having to compensate. I may not have used that particular machine but I've used machines that are similar. Like I mentioned I've seen guys use that machine and the technique they used. The proper form is in a standing, squatting position that's why there's no seat it works the arms, shoulders, back and legs. It works the entire body. The machine was built without a seat but that doesn't mean you can't use one. I would assume if you're sitting at the machine you would be lower than a person who's standing and squatting which probably causes you to have to press the weight more straight up over your head rather than at an incline which could explain why you're having soreness in your triceps. I'm not trying to start an argument I'm just giving you some feedback as to why it's hurting your arms. LOL All I can do is go by what you've said. You're doing the entire lift with your arms with no help from your legs. You should also be sore in the shoulders, chest and maybe even your thighs if you were able to do the proper form.
 

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Hostile;3318234 said:
Yeah, I would.

Then it's more significant than you're letting on. Eventually you'll get over it and to think it all got started because I called Maryb immature. LOL Anyone who would jump on me for that are the ones looking for an argument.
 

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KJJ;3318252 said:
Then it's more significant than you're letting on. Eventually you'll get over it and to think it all got started because I called Maryb immature. LOL Anyone who would jump on me for that are the ones looking for an argument.
There's your proof I haven't let it gnaw at me. I couldn't have told you the topic. You knew. I remember the juvenile tactics, not the discussion.
 

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Hostile;3318353 said:
There's your proof I haven't let it gnaw at me. I couldn't have told you the topic. You knew. I remember the juvenile tactics, not the discussion.

You're crying about all my LOL's and emoticons and you're calling me juvenile? :rolleyes: As for the topic we argued I can't blame you for wanting to forget about it. LOL
 

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KJJ;3318375 said:
You're crying about all my LOL's and emoticons and you're calling me juvenile? :rolleyes: As for the topic we argued I can't blame you for wanting to forget about it. LOL
I called the tactics juvenile, not you. Yeah, I'm crying. Sure.
 

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OK - KJJ I get what you are saying, but my arms could be sore from the other exercises I do too. I do a lot in two hours -- they are probably sore from a combination of exercises, not just this specific machine.

You keep talking about the technique and proper form and well, I'll never be able to do it the proper way unless you have the cure for spinal cord injuries in your pocket and feel like giving it to me --- I have to make do and use it the way I and my physical therapist see fit for me. You can talk about proper form to me until your blue in the face, but since I can't stand, not even a little bit -- proper form for this machine doesn't apply to me.

Until gyms around the country get proper accessible equipment I am adapting the best I can to the equipment they have. It's a different workout then I do at home and different muscles. It's all good for my body and health and that's what matters.

I just wanted to know what the machine was called. Not start a big hoopla disagreement on what/who is right and wrong.
 

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Kristi;3318217 said:
:lmao:

PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)

Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.
I remembered his other one.

"Did the zoo call?" flex, "I found their pythons."
 

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Kristi;3318547 said:
OK - KJJ I get what you are saying, but my arms could be sore from the other exercises I do too. I do a lot in two hours -- they are probably sore from a combination of exercises, not just this specific machine.

You keep talking about the technique and proper form and well, I'll never be able to do it the proper way unless you have the cure for spinal cord injuries in your pocket and feel like giving it to me --- I have to make do and use it the way I and my physical therapist see fit for me. You can talk about proper form to me until your blue in the face, but since I can't stand, not even a little bit -- proper form for this machine doesn't apply to me.

Until gyms around the country get proper accessible equipment I am adapting the best I can to the equipment they have. It's a different workout then I do at home and different muscles. It's all good for my body and health and that's what matters.

I just wanted to know what the machine was called. Not start a big hoopla disagreement on what/who is right and wrong.


The soreness in your arms could be from the other exercises you're doing but you did say you thought it was from that particular machine but anyway. Mind if I ask how you injured your spinal cord and how long ago it happened?
 

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A virus called Transverse Myelitis attacked my spinal cord during a grand maul seizure I had during a Lupus relapse where the Lupus flared in my brain (it's been in every major organ except my heart since I was diagnosed at 10). I was 15 when it happened so half my life.
 

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Kristi;3319147 said:
A virus called Transverse Myelitis attacked my spinal cord during a grand maul seizure I had during a Lupus relapse where the Lupus flared in my brain (it's been in every major organ except my heart since I was diagnosed at 10). I was 15 when it happened so half my life.

I'm sorry to hear about that Kristi. You sound like a strong minded person who's coping with it well under the circumstances. You're certainly not allowing your disability to stop you from being as active as you can.
 
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