Does Dalton do anything better than Dak?

[thunderpimp91]

What do you think is a fair way to look at accuracy? Are picks not relevant? Are completion percentages not relevant?
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Thats not an easy question at all. Both those matter, but I don't think either is an end all be all. Interceptions I think more often than not are the results of bad decisions more so than poor accuracy.

Completion percentage certainly factors in, but gives a small snapshot in the grand scheme. Dak throws an extremely catchable ball a high percentage of the time. Often times high, low, behind, etc but is still within the catch radius of his receivers.

Where he struggles is with that brady/rogers type of accuracy where on 10 passes 8 of those are right on target, in the chest, hitting a receiver in stride. And that is no knock on dak, very few qbs are that. Hes just a different style qb, but its also a reaon I think him and Cooper have had success. Their games really compliment each other.

Dalton I think has that higher accuracy level to him, but the downside is he makes poor throws into coverage. Dak throughout his career has been much better protecting the football.

 

[DFWJC]

It's hard to compare because they've played on very different teams and current numbers will be higher than ones even 5-10 years ago, on average.

I realize 32 (33 soon) isn't that old these days, but I do think it slows you down some.
I just assume Dak is better, but Andy is a great backup.

For those of you saying Dak is a "better athlete", the only reason I would possibly agree is if you said because one is 27 and one is 33

Dalton was a stellar 3-sport athlete who had the better 40 time than Dak entering the league. He was the better athlete, all else equal.

Some of you keep confusing Dak with guys like Murray or Wilson.....he is far slower and less fluid than those guys.

 

[CyberB0b]

Dalton has had some very dak like years. I think daltons decline at least partially has to be attributed to the fact he had maybe the worst team in the league around him the past 3 to 4 years.

This team isn't much better.

 

[Jarv]

Take a snap from under center and do 3-5 step drops.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Which is very important in the WCO, actually what it is based on.

 

[morasp]

Wins? It's a team sport so that's really the bottom line.

 

[phildadon86]

That's right, and I find it totally ignorant when people try and compare a player on one team to that player on a different team. Now tell me, would Dak have taken the Bengals to 5 playoff games? How about if Dalton was here for the time Dak has been here would he have taken the Cowboys to 3 playoff games? How many would Dak have won with Bengals and how many Dalton won if he were to have been in Dallas.

Why people feel the need to try and do a comparison like this is ignorant, lazy and totally irrational.

Agreed sir. 2 different situations

 

[Proof]

I am not even sure Dak is a better athlete - going by there combine numbers Dalton is a bit quicker.

Dak makes plays on the run because he is a big strong guy, not on athletic ability.

lol, strength is like one of the main tenets in athleticism.

 

[5Stars]

Agreed sir. 2 different situations

Thanks, hound dog, but, you can stop with the "Sir" stuff...lol

 

[FiveSuperBowls]

We will find out this Sunday.

 

[catiii]

The perception will be that Dalton can't make as many plays as Dak.

Indirectly, this may be a benefit to us if it gets Zeke up and running.

And that perception by a certain population of posters is wrong. The coaches know that as evidenced by the plays called in the Giants game.

 

[mcmvp]

Of course not silly wabbitt. Dalton did show plenty of positives.

He was mobile enough to escape pressure caused by our offensive line, and he also completed one of the most improbable plays you will see this season to set up a win.

Dalton/Gallup BOOM!

“Gallup had just 0.3 yards of separation 0.3 yards from the sideline for a completion probability of 15.7%”

I guess it’s true what they say....94.547% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I mean how on God’s green earth can someone say, with any level of confidence, that the completion probability 15.7%. Lol

It was a hell of a throw…and a hell of a catch. But these precise numbers make me laugh

 

[Jarv]

lol, strength is like one of the main tenets in athleticism.

So Hulk Hogan should always beat Michael Jordan at basketball?

 

[5Stars]

So Hulk Hogan should always beat Michael Jordan at basketball?

lol...hell yes...The Hulk would put Jordan to shame on the court.

I want to see them against each other in the ring....lol

 

[gongjr]

I only have a question about what you said. Does watching film change an incomplete pass into a completed pass? I'm unsure how watching plays over changes how accurate a QB is. I do agree that we will see what happens but watching film doesn't change a QB's accuracy. Film can show if a receiver is running good or the right routes or if a player is making his blocks but changing QB accuracy not so much.
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Film will show you accuracy vs completion percentage. If your receiver has to turn / slow down / catch difficulty etc. The incompletions, we'll just have to watch and find out. I'm hoping it was just the Bengals dysfunction, but you could be right and that could be all Dalton. One thing is for sure, that if he fails with this setup then maybe backup is where he belongs.

 

[thunderpimp91]

This team isn't much better.

Your telling me that zeke, Cooper, lamb, Gallup aren't better weapons than what cincinnati has had?

He had a really good slot receiver in boyd and a bunch of scrubs. Their oline has been even worse than what Dallas has had this year.

 

[Flinger]

Dalton has all of the deficiencies every other Dallas Cowboys QB have had for over 25 yrs under this GM - no defense.

But, he will get blamed when we lose.

 

[Bullet22]

Red is not better than Dak...but he is a good pro..with alot of experience..

 

[Clove]

Some guys are technically good, and other's are gamers. Dak is a gamer, they just have to work on getting him off to a fast start. Technically, Dalton is probably better, but in games, meh. Right now is the time for Dak to sit back, watch, and pick up a few things that he's never had the opportunity to pick up since he's always played. If Dalton kicks butt, then we have a good problem on deck with two great QBs. Trade bait for either.

 

[5Stars]

Red is not better than Dak...but he is a good pro..with alot of experience..

If you think about it, all those players from the QB on down are some damn good athletes...you don't get to play in the NFL, they ask you if you want to...well, that and the pay is good! lol

 

[panchucko]

We will find out this Sunday.

I’ll wait until Monday