Does KC's win over Philly validate our loss more?

[DFWJC]

The Chiefs are clearly better than last season but they still have a long way to go to gage how good they are. They've beaten 3 teams that combined for only 14 wins last season and neither JAX, Philly or the Cowboys look anything more than mediocre so far this season.

Fair enough

 

[dallasdave]

It does not validate our offense playing bad.

 

[30yrheel]

Last week you guys were talking about how bad they were, now you're validating them since we lost. Funny.

 

[Idgit]

Man, some of you enjoy a good wallow. We lost. To what looks like a pretty good team. And it looks like we have a pretty good team ourselves. In a conference full of pretty good teams.

It is what it is, and isn't dependent on us having a team full of quitters led by an idiot. This isn't 1992, and the league's been intentionally flattened out since then. Understanding that isn't settling. It's just being realistic.

 

[TwentyOne]

After watching the KC win over Philly last night, does the win make our one loss look more reasonable? The KC defense played very well and held the "vaunted" philly offense down for the most part...of course, the eagles had 5 turnovers (was it 6?) and that helped things, but a lot of that was caused by pressure.

IMO, our loss doesn't look so bad when you think that philly's offense was held in check just 5 days after KC held our struggling offense in check. This is a glass-half-full thought process, I will admit. the offense certainly has a lot to fix/update/improve and mush of that starts with the play-calling. But, I would have felt much worse about our loss if philly had trounced KC.

what say you?

KC is a good team who beat Philly which happens to be mediocre.

If you want to be a great team you have to beat the good ones.
Which we are not able too.
If you want to win Championships you have to beat good teams on a regular basis and the great ones (like SanFran, Seattle or Denver) every once a while.
Which we are not able too.

This teams has glimpses of being good. But its NOT playing and NOT being coached on a championship level.

And that's all you play for.

Personally i don't care if this team - its players, coaches - or the fans are feeling better because there are teams playing worse than us.

 

[Fredd]

my goodness, I was just making a statement, an opinion, a thought....perhaps "validate" was the wrong word....I don't condone any reason for losing a game and I typically am pissed off for hours every time they lose...I just felt that the KC/Philly game is a type of benchmark...it's hard to gauge KC just yet as a whole...If philly had beaten the crap out of KC, they would be on a bridge watch in my home town...

 

[TwentyOne]

my goodness, I was just making a statement, an opinion, a thought....perhaps "validate" was the wrong word....I don't condone any reason for losing a game and I typically am pissed off for hours every time they lose...I just felt that the KC/Philly game is a type of benchmark...it's hard to gauge KC just yet as a whole...If philly had beaten the crap out of KC, they would be on a bridge watch in my home town...

It is a type of benchmark - of course.

But what do you do with that type of benchmark ? Knowing you are not able to beat a good team but are not worse then a mediocre one ?

all you wil know is your team won't win a Championship this year because they are not good enough.

I dont see anything positiv in it.

 

[Fredd]

It is a type of benchmark - of course.

But what do you do with that type of benchmark ? Knowing you are not able to beat a good team but are not worse then a mediocre one ?

all you wil know is your team won't win a Championship this year because they are not good enough.

I dont see anything positiv in it.

I see your point, and many others in the thread, but while they need to put the KC game out of their mind, they need to also learn from it....if you had to put the Eagles and Cowboys on a scale, after the philly game, you KNOW the cowboys are ahead of them...had philly beaten KC, you just wouldn't know...keeping the players in the right mindset is paramount to them being successful...philly getting beaten at home by KC could not have hurt the player's mindset

 

[roy31]

I think it validates that Dallas sucks just like Philly...another year of underachieving

 

[DFWJC]

It does not validate our offense playing bad.

Part of the time anyway. True.
That is a very good defense that will end up top 5 in the league by seasons end. But on several series the offense underperformed.

Then, we needed them the most,the defense let them drive it down their throats.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

!...no...No....NO!

Nothing validates a loss......

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think it validates that Dallas sucks

Just 2 games in? Come in off the ledge and enjoy a few more games.

 

[tecolote]

I remember when we beat the niners in the Tony Romo ribs game, they just had multiple losing seasons and I couldn't believe we needed OT to beat that team. It was not till later in the year that I realized how impressive that win was. That niners team was built a lot like the current Chiefs, solid defense, no turnovers, good running game and Alex Smith.

So I can see the point the OP is making, maybe at the end of the year we will look back at this loss with different eyes. Although right now it sucks ****.

 

[Dodger12]

I love moral victories........

 

[Fredd]

again, I wasn't looking for moral victories, it was just an observation...nothing justifies a loss and making excuses makes it even worse (the team has not made excuses)....I am looking forward to a win this week and then move on from there

 

[Dodger12]

again, I wasn't looking for moral victories, it was just an observation...nothing justifies a loss and making excuses makes it even worse (the team has not made excuses)....I am looking forward to a win this week and then move on from there

The Chiefs were the worst team in the NFL last year. We can analyze it all we want, but they had the first pick in the draft for a reason. I think Reid's a good coach and Alex Smith is an OK bus-driver type QB but there's no way a team supposedly on the upswing and just missing out on the playoffs the previous season should have lost that game. The KC game says more about the Cowboys than it does about the Chiefs, IMO.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Chiefs were the worst team in the NFL last year.

No they weren't. Horrible QB play cost them several games but they were not the worst team in the league.

 

[Dodger12]

No they weren't. Horrible QB play cost them several games but they were not the worst team in the league.

As I said, you can analyze it any way you want but they contended with Jacksonville for the first pick in the draft. The Cowboys were in contention for a playoff spot and have a "franchise" QB playing in a system he's been in for years. I can appreciate what Andy Reid and a new QB could do for a team, but we should have beat them.

 

[jblaze2004]

no cuz we should have won if we can get this offense out of their funk

 

[iceman117]

After watching the KC win over Philly last night, does the win make our one loss look more reasonable? The KC defense played very well and held the "vaunted" philly offense down for the most part...of course, the eagles had 5 turnovers (was it 6?) and that helped things, but a lot of that was caused by pressure.

IMO, our loss doesn't look so bad when you think that philly's offense was held in check just 5 days after KC held our struggling offense in check. This is a glass-half-full thought process, I will admit. the offense certainly has a lot to fix/update/improve and mush of that starts with the play-calling. But, I would have felt much worse about our loss if philly had trounced KC.

what say you?

I don't think so, I just feel like almost every game that is winnable you have to win most of them. The KC game will be one of those game later in the year if we are facing a "must-win" situation that we think back and say "we should have got that one".

I never really thought it was a bad loss because people who understand football knew the Chiefs were going to be a much improved team and playing them on the road was a difficult task. It's still early and a lot of football left but you always want to win the games you play good enough to win. Dallas didn't play great against the Chiefs but should have won the game, turnovers and a big dropped pass sealed out fate in that one.

got to beat the Rams at home and that will "validate" our loss to KC. That's just my opinion but respect all others who feel like the Chiefs beating the Eagles did too.