Does Romo really give the Cowboys the best chance to win over Dak?

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Romo didnt even play that well last year when he did play. Guy cant stay on the field. It would seem from my vantage point that the quicker we get Dak coming of age, the quicker we have a shot at something great. For my money I am hoping we never look back.

Still we could only win one game without him. We may be sitting here after a month with Dak missing even the Romo of last season.

We don't know that and I hope it's not the case. It would be great for the franchise if we find the next franchise QB in the fourth round and we do never have to look back.

I hate that Romo hasn't gotten the credit or success he's deserved for his efforts, but I also have no problem with moving on with Dak if he proves to be the answer. Romo's health and age predicates that we find his successor.

If we've found him, that's great, but last year showed that this team can't be QB'd by just anyone. It's not foundationally strong enough.
 

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Still we could only win one game without him. We may be sitting here after a month with Dak missing even the Romo of last season.

We don't know that and I hope it's not the case. It would be great for the franchise if we find the next franchise QB in the fourth round and we do never have to look back.

I hate that Romo hasn't gotten the credit or success he's deserved for his efforts, but I also have no problem with moving on with Dak if he proves to be the answer. Romo's health and age predicates that we find his successor.

If we've found him, that's great, but last year showed that this team can't be QB'd by just anyone. It's not foundationally strong enough.



I feel the same.

I've seen enough rookie Quarterbacks to know that Romo gives us the best chance to win now.

Dallas has a good shot this year but they won't go far with a rookie QB.


Before someone says we don't have a defense... Most teams don't have the offensive ability to impose their will like we do.

Our defense won't win us games but it could be a quality defense when we have a lead.
 

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We didn't suck last year because Romo was out. We sucked because the front office neglected to get a decent backup in place over the years. So we had nothing but scrubs behind Romo. Your team will fail every time in that scenario. You are about to see a rookie tear it up and realize Romo isn't so special any more. What is sad is the rookie didn't have time to fully develop and will make some mistakes. But no worries, this guy is the real deal and ready to take over this team.

You are simply amazing.

You can buy fully into Dak Prescott after three preseason games while never giving Romo his due. I'm surprised you acknowledge that he was ever special. Must be an oversight on your part.
 

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Romo by far gives us the best chance to win. That being said I'm glad Dak is getting some experience early in case he needs it late in the season. I'm going to count every game we get with tony from here on out a blessing.
 

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I feel the same.

I've seen enough rookie Quarterbacks to know that Romo gives us the best chance to win now.

Dallas has a good shot this year but they won't go far with a rookie QB.


Before someone says we don't have a defense... Most teams don't have the offensive ability to impose their will like we do.

Our defense won't win us games but it could be a quality defense when we have a lead.

You never know. Some rookie QBs have succeeded their first year and we might have one of those exceptions.

I don't want to dismiss that. I'm just not expecting it. I don't think it's fair to Prescott for us to have our expectations set that high. It's a tough transition from college to the pros for any player.

Romo, even a wounded Romo, remains our best hope until/unless the rookie proves differently.

It's funny. Back in April, many fans were arguing that we shouldn't even take a quarterback after the first round because of the failure rate. Now, we're sitting here debating whether one taken in the fourth round gives us a better chance to win than the 2014 MVP runner-up.
 

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You never know. Some rookie QBs have succeeded their first year and we might have one of those exceptions.

I don't want to dismiss that. I'm just not expecting it. I don't think it's fair to Prescott for us to have our expectations set that high. It's a tough transition from college to the pros for any player.

Romo, even a wounded Romo, remains our best hope until/unless the rookie proves differently.

It's funny. Back in April, many fans were arguing that we shouldn't even take a quarterback after the first round because of the failure rate. Now, we're sitting here debating whether one taken in the fourth round gives us a better chance to win than the 2014 MVP runner-up.

Those teams have had top notch defenses for the most part and we're going to end up asking Dak to do too much if our defense is as middle of the road as I think it is.

Dak could have a great rookie year but I care more about the big picture for the season and I don't see Dak getting us where we want to go once D Coordinators throw the sink at him.
 

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Tony will obviously be given a chance to complete the season when he comes back. Hopefully, unlike last year, he won't come back until he is fully healed. If he gets knocked out again this year, then the prudent move would be to cut him in the most cap friendly manor for 2017 & 2018 seasons. Too much opportunity cost to rely on his durability at that point.
 

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Those teams have had top notch defenses for the most part and we're going to end up asking Dak to do too much if our defense is as middle of the road as I think it is.

Dak could have a great rookie year but I care more about the big picture for the season and I don't see Dak getting us where we want to go once D Coordinators throw the sink at him.

That's probably a fair point. Having a potent running game has helped some of the successful rookie quarterbacks, but if the defense plays like it did with Romo, specifically in not being able to hold leads, that's going to put tremendous pressure on Prescott.

Romo is one of the all-time best fourth-quarter QBs. Expecting Dak to match that is asking too much.
 

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If you were to read every contribution I have made since the beginning of preseason, you might have noticed a reoccurring theme: Dak. It’s truly difficult for me to think about anything else. A bottom of the fourth acquisition made possible (ironically) by the Eagles snatching up Demarco Murray in Free Agency…a team who just mortgaged their future in draft picks to acquire their own future quarterback (Carson Wentz) at the top of the first round…and he won’t be starting game 1 according to recent reports. You really can’t make this stuff up. Well, you can but you have to have one hell of an imagination and perhaps a little help from synthetic recreational urban pharmaceuticals.

Well you can make this up, because you did :)

The comp pick was from Jeremy Parnell, Greg Hardy wiped out the 4th we would have gotten for Murray (would have been two).
 

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So, how does one cash-in, so-to-speak, on Vegas' blunder? I honestly think the world is significantly underestimating the Cowboys right now with Dak as the starter...but that's just me.
It's hard because Dallas is a public team. Vegas knows Dallas gets a lot of uninformed action.
 

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Still we could only win one game without him. We may be sitting here after a month with Dak missing even the Romo of last season.

We don't know that and I hope it's not the case. It would be great for the franchise if we find the next franchise QB in the fourth round and we do never have to look back.

I hate that Romo hasn't gotten the credit or success he's deserved for his efforts, but I also have no problem with moving on with Dak if he proves to be the answer. Romo's health and age predicates that we find his successor.

If we've found him, that's great, but last year showed that this team can't be QB'd by just anyone. It's not foundationally strong enough.
Beyond an injured Romo and Dez, last year's backups also didn't really have much of a run game they could rely on. I am aware that McFadden placed fourth in yards among running backs, but most of those yards where gained in chunks not inches....it is the inches that Elliott and Morris are capable of getting that makes all the difference in the world for the QB.
 

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That's probably a fair point. Having a potent running game has helped some of the successful rookie quarterbacks, but if the defense plays like it did with Romo, specifically in not being able to hold leads, that's going to put tremendous pressure on Prescott.

Romo is one of the all-time best fourth-quarter QBs. Expecting Dak to match that is asking too much.



Yep...

We've never seen how Dak responds in the 4th quarter.

Romo has the 3rd highest QB rating of all time in the 4th quarter..

2 minute drill? Give me Brady and Romo all day.


A lot of people want to move on from him without knowing exactly what we have in Dak..

There is no need to make these decisions this year unless Dak does the unthinkable and looks nothing like a rookie.
 

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Yep...

We've never seen how Dak responds in the 4th quarter.

Romo has the 3rd highest QB rating of all time in the 4th quarter..

2 minute drill? Give me Brady and Romo all day.


A lot of people want to move on from him without knowing exactly what we have in Dak..

There is no need to make these decisions this year unless Dak does the unthinkable and looks nothing like a rookie.
On this your are absolutely right. I can't speak for everyone else, but from my point of view, I don't "want" to move on from Romo. I just simply think that slowly but surely that is becoming an unavoidable eventuality. And, should the Coaches come to the conclusion that Dak gives the Cowboys the best chance to win, hopefully they'll have the courage to pull the trigger sooner than later.
 

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Still we could only win one game without him. We may be sitting here after a month with Dak missing even the Romo of last season.

We don't know that and I hope it's not the case. It would be great for the franchise if we find the next franchise QB in the fourth round and we do never have to look back.

I hate that Romo hasn't gotten the credit or success he's deserved for his efforts, but I also have no problem with moving on with Dak if he proves to be the answer. Romo's health and age predicates that we find his successor.

If we've found him, that's great, but last year showed that this team can't be QB'd by just anyone. It's not foundationally strong enough.

Love Romo and feel bad that Jerry Jones wasted his career, but the writing is on the wall for him. He is just getting too old. Hoping the guy can hold up is detrimental to the team. They started to look to move past him with the drafting of Zeke. It will be Zekes offense now. We got lucky with Dak, hopefully. The coaching staff also needs to move on from this Romo friendly nonsense and coach the offense. Looks like they may finally understand that watching the way they were calling plays for Dak. Next up is the defense. This franchise needs to get off relying on Romo for everything. Time for the coaching staff and the rest of the team to take control. If Romo can come back and play well, that would be a bonus. I no longer think they should rely on him mentally.
 

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On this your are absolutely right. I can't speak for everyone else, but from my point of view, I don't "want" to move on from Romo. I just simply think that slowly but surely that is becoming an unavoidable eventuality. And, should the Coaches come to the conclusion that Dak gives the Cowboys the best chance to win, hopefully they'll have the courage to pull the trigger sooner than later.

Brady and Romo? LOL

Romo isnt even in the conversation with Brady and should never be.
 

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Brady and Romo? LOL

Romo isnt even in the conversation with Brady and should never be.
Romo is not Brady, but that, I don't think, is the argument he was making. He was simply stating that both Brady and Romo have a very high number of 4th quarter comeback win's as compared to the rest of the league. It would be asking alot of Dak to ask him to win a close game in the fourth given his lack of experience in the NFL...but, on the other hand, I don't think the task is above him...he had to carry his team at Mississippi State quite a bit for four quarters in college, so I would imagine the test is somewhat similar...and here he'll have a better supporting cast to get the job done.
 

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Romo is not Brady, but that, I don't think, is the argument he was making. He was simply stating that both Brady and Romo have a very high number of 4th quarter comeback win's as compared to the rest of the league. It would be asking alot of Dak to ask him to win a close game in the fourth given his lack of experience in the NFL...but, on the other hand, I don't think the task is above him...he had to carry his team at Mississippi State quite a bit for four quarters in college, so I would imagine the test is somewhat similar...and here he'll have a better supporting cast to get the job done.

Dak will just have to win these games in the 3rd ;)
 

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You are simply amazing.

You can buy fully into Dak Prescott after three preseason games while never giving Romo his due. I'm surprised you acknowledge that he was ever special. Must be an oversight on your part.

I know I'm amazing.. thanks for reminding me. I'm not just fully buying into Dak, I'm buying into offense around him. I do believe this guy is 100% legit though. Romo is done. Stick a fork in him. 2 playoff wins in a decade and can't stay healthy. It's time for you to move on bro.. and for Romo to move on too.
 

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Love Romo and feel bad that Jerry Jones wasted his career, but the writing is on the wall for him. He is just getting too old. Hoping the guy can hold up is detrimental to the team. They started to look to move past him with the drafting of Zeke. It will be Zekes offense now. We got lucky with Dak, hopefully. The coaching staff also needs to move on from this Romo friendly nonsense and coach the offense. Looks like they may finally understand that watching the way they were calling plays for Dak. Next up is the defense. This franchise needs to get off relying on Romo for everything. Time for the coaching staff and the rest of the team to take control. If Romo can come back and play well, that would be a bonus. I no longer think they should rely on him mentally.
Wasted career? Dude went out with Jessica Simpson. A SB would just be the icing on the cake.
 

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Love Romo and feel bad that Jerry Jones wasted his career, but the writing is on the wall for him. He is just getting too old. Hoping the guy can hold up is detrimental to the team. They started to look to move past him with the drafting of Zeke. It will be Zekes offense now. We got lucky with Dak, hopefully. The coaching staff also needs to move on from this Romo friendly nonsense and coach the offense. Looks like they may finally understand that watching the way they were calling plays for Dak. Next up is the defense. This franchise needs to get off relying on Romo for everything. Time for the coaching staff and the rest of the team to take control. If Romo can come back and play well, that would be a bonus. I no longer think they should rely on him mentally.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, if we truly "got lucky" with Dak.

I think Romo's age and durability shows we have to get past the point of relying on him, but I'm not sure we're ready to get past the point of relying on him this year.

As I've said, I'm all for Dak remaining the starter if he proves that he could possible be the long-term answer. If he doesn't, then it's still Romo's team until we find that answer.
 
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