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Clove;2685662 said:
I don't even care if the guy has less talent, use your brain. Study harder, stop flinging it up when you're in trouble, hold on to the ball when you're sacked, I'm afraid of seeing him get sacked cause their is a high probability of a turn over and defenders know this.

Also, when it's an important, very important game, come to play. Don't get started in the 4th quarter, be ready to go and make it happen.

That's the guy I want.

Well I agree with ya clove, Romo made a lot of bonehead plays this season.
I don't care what his rating is, he still hasn't won ****. Maybe things will change now that "the cancer" is gone but I doubt it.
 

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As much of a down season Romo had he still ranks at the top of NFL QB's this despite dealing with an injury to his passing hand. Romo needs to do better at protecting the ball I will not argue that but the guy has great talent and with help from the rest of the offense this team still has a great chance of producing big for the Cowboys.
 

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EPL0c0;2685758 said:
It's not a matter of just ending a season on a bad note, it's coming up short and failing in the biggest games which determine if the team continues to play into the off-season or packs it up after 16 games.

This team is awful without Romo and don't act like the defense doesn't have about 90% of the fault when we have choked.

Romo does need to protect the ball better but our defense cant let teams walk right down the field on them when we desperately need stops because thats when Romo starts forcing things and he gives the ball up.
 

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CATCH17;2685903 said:
This team is awful without Romo and don't act like the defense doesn't have about 90% of the fault when we have choked.

Romo does need to protect the ball better but our defense cant let teams walk right down the field on them when we desperately need stops because thats when Romo starts forcing things and he gives the ball up.

True and we can't continue to shot ourselfs in the foot with stupid penalties that get plays called back and put Romo in these 2nd/3rd and long situation. I think most will agree that Romo has things he needs to work on but some do not seem to get the fact QB's do not do it alone it takes a team to win not 1 man even if that man is the QB. In our late season losses if people want to be honest there are a lot of mistakes by many that have been made not Romo alone
 

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Doomsday101;2685916 said:
True and we can't continue to shot ourselfs in the foot with stupid penalties that get plays called back and put Romo in these 2nd/3rd and long situation. I think most will agree that Romo has things he needs to work on but some do not seem to get the fact QB's do not do it alone it takes a team to win not 1 man even if that man is the QB. In our late season losses if people want to be honest there are a lot of mistakes by many that have been made not Romo alone

Yeah its like everyone loves Big Ben right now.

I think Romo is 2 times the playmaker Ben is.

The difference is Roethlisberger has a defense he can depend on to make crucial stops.

He can play 13 - 10 ball games all season and not have to make a single play until the 4th quarter.

With the way our D lets teams score at times we have no choice but to try and just keep up and outscore.

I was encouraged by our D once Phillips took over but they still had their bonehead moments. The Baltimore game was squarely on them.

The playoff losses though I put squarely on the backs of our defense and everyone loooooves to blame Tony for those games for some odd reason.
 

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CATCH17;2685929 said:
Yeah its like everyone loves Big Ben right now.

I think Romo is 2 times the playmaker Ben is.

The difference is Roethlisberger has a defense he can depend on to make crucial stops.

He can play 13 - 10 ball games all season and not have to make a single play until the 4th quarter.

With the way our D lets teams score at times we have no choice but to try and just keep up and outscore.

I was encouraged by our D once Phillips took over but they still had their bonehead moments. The Baltimore game was squarely on them.

The playoff losses though I put squarely on the backs of our defense and everyone loooooves to blame Tony for those games for some odd reason.

As many coaches say, "QB's get to much credit for wins and too much blame for losses" Football more so than any other sport I have seen is a team game and it takes team production to win. The QB alone relies on so many to do their job so he can do his
 

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Clove;2685662 said:
I don't even care if the guy has less talent, use your brain. Study harder, stop flinging it up when you're in trouble, hold on to the ball when you're sacked, I'm afraid of seeing him get sacked cause their is a high probability of a turn over and defenders know this.

Also, when it's an important, very important game, come to play. Don't get started in the 4th quarter, be ready to go and make it happen.

That's the guy I want.


Hmmm...interesting. Perhaps you don't like the other 52 players who don't seem to play all that great in important games or December either.

It's a team game. Team. Not a Romo game. Team. Unless all those other guys show up, all out, in December and January as well then it won't matter what Romo does they won't win.

Romo has things to improve on, without any doubt, but so do 52 other guys on the game day rosters. Everyone has to be even better, than they normally are, when it gets late in the season. Everyone.

Marion Barber can't be fumbling inside the 5 after the team has drove down there to try and make a comeback.

The O-Line can't quit blocking allowing Romo to be blindsided while trying to pass when the team had drove inside the 30 while trying to make a comeback.

The defense can't give up two runs of 70+ yards for TDs, in two plays, during the 4th quarter when the team has scored two seperate times to put themselves in position to win with a stop and getting the ball back to the offense.

The backup QB can't come in for 3 games and stink it up the way ours did.

Blockers can't completely miss their blocks allowing both their starting QB and punter to be injuried in the same overtime period, within minutes of one another. These are the kinds of mistakes that derail seasons.

They've all got to improve and do better and play better and become an actual team.

I noticed before you that you don't want a guy who shows in the 4th quarter. Better that he shows up in the 4th quarter than not at all. I don't think Pittsburgh fans have been complaining about Big Ben, especially not this last year, and it's pretty darn often that he and his offense don't show up till the 4th quarter. But guess what? They win. So it doesn't matter.

Couple years ago it didn't matter that Eli liked to show up only late in the games (during their playoff run) to really play well. Didn't matter cause they won the games.

Did they win only cause of their QBs? Of course not. The whole team showed up when it mattered most, not just one guy.

You know what happens when one guy shows up in a game? You get 18-1 and Tom Brady leading a come from behind, showing up in the 4th, only to watch your defense give the lead away with less than a minute left and then watch as your O-Line completely forgets that the Superbowl is on the line and gets you hammered more.

McNabb was the only guy who seemed to really bother to show up for the entire second half against the Cards to get the lead from them after being down 24-7. Then his defense decided they didn't need to play anymore. The guy takes crap for that despite the fact that he threw for nearly 4 hundred yards and 3 TDs in a come from behind effort.

Team. Team. Team.

Without all of them showing up it will not matter what Romo does. You'll see Romo throw for 330 yards, 3 TDs, and still lose because the rest of the team didn't bother to show up.

Romo needs to get to work, apparently he's already doing that with his new reciever, and everyone else needs to get to work on improving themselves for the entire season, not just part of it.
 

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I don't think you can just look at Romo when you look at our teams late season crashes. Did any of the other QB's we've had do any better during December? I honestly don't know, maybe someone out there does.

I, personally believe Romo is top 5 in the league. He makes our O-line look better, not the other way around. Put Manning or Brady behind our line and see how many sacks/turnovers you have. Our line seems to get worse as the season goes on.

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I really hope Romo takes leadership of this team...

Romo's numbers were never in question.....he has become the Dominique Wilkins of the NFL......great stats...some really nice highlites...but can never win when it counts.

I really hope it was Owens that caused all the problems.....that would be a easy fix...but something about Romo last year really bothered me......I just hope he takes the bull by the horns and leads this team.....
 

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starman22;2685944 said:
I don't think you can just look at Romo when you look at our teams late season crashes. Did any of the other QB's we've had do any better during December? I honestly don't know, maybe someone out there does.

I, personally believe Romo is top 5 in the league. He makes our O-line look better, not the other way around. Put Manning or Brady behind our line and see how many sacks/turnovers you have. Our line seems to get worse as the season goes on.

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Its like our entire team loses all their emotion and gets burnt out towards the end of the year.

After see'ing the Superbowl every year I do not know how as a player you wouldn't scrape, fight, and claw to get into that game and play with the world watching you.

It is the greatest event in sports imo.

Nobody in the NFC wanted it as bad as the Cards did this year once they got in and it showed on the field. They sold out and almost won the whole thing and IMO played a much better game than the Steelers.
 

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CATCH17;2685903 said:
This team is awful without Romo and don't act like the defense doesn't have about 90% of the fault when we have choked.

Romo does need to protect the ball better but our defense cant let teams walk right down the field on them when we desperately need stops because thats when Romo starts forcing things and he gives the ball up.
The defense is not excused by any means.

Despite leading the league in sacks, the pressure on the QB was inconsistant, had MANY penalties, poor tackling, gave up big plays, and most importantly forced few turnovers (8ints); when teams like Cleveland, Oakland, Houston and Cinci have more INTs, there's little to be proud of there.
 

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The good thing is, according to Spags Romo and Roy were working out together early one morning this week. And several reports have them working together a few times a week. So at least Romo's head is in the right place. And Roy is eager to be prepared as well. We'll see how it all pans out.
Link? I don't miss much written by the Cowboy's, particularly Spags? I read somewhere that Roy was preparing, but nothing about Romo.

As far Romo's December play, I don't put all the blame on him. I think the team as a whole failed. Furthermore, the OL and OC has to take some of the blame when it came to turnovers. Romo just did not have time to be effective in an idiotic offensive approach that consistently pursued the deep pass.
 

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Like it or not. A leader gets the most out of his guys when he's in your face.

Wade failed these guys and it trickled down to the field generals. Eventually every level of the Dallas Cowboys became disfunctional.

I agree Tony can no longer have this "Living the Dream" attitude. Kurt Warner is a prime example of a guy who came from nowhere and is "Living the Dream". I did hear one thing that struck me about Kurt. Underneath that good guy image is a real competitior. Larry Fitzgerald said that he was scared to drop balls or run mediocore routes because Kurt will give you this deadly stare. Tony needs to be this guy and hold guys accountable for mistakes.
Tony needs to know that these guys have to look up to him for leadership and somewhat fear the vocal wrath. You see it in all the great qb's.
 

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Clove;2685662 said:
I don't even care if the guy has less talent, use your brain. Study harder, stop flinging it up when you're in trouble, hold on to the ball when you're sacked, I'm afraid of seeing him get sacked cause their is a high probability of a turn over and defenders know this.

Also, when it's an important, very important game, come to play. Don't get started in the 4th quarter, be ready to go and make it happen.

That's the guy I want.

Isnt alot of what you are talking about the responsibility of the OC???

When the o-line is having problems pass-blocking and Coach Tecmo calls a play of all the WRs to run 20 yard out routes.........that doesnt contribute to the QB having to hold the ball longer and getting hit more often, thus causing the fumbles???

Its all on Romo and none of the blame falls on Garrett???


EDIT.........I forgot to mention that we have sucked in December for years and years, so it didnt just start when Romo took over. So to say a new QB would fare any different when we have had 17 starting QBs between Aikman and Romo and we sucked in December under almost all of them, tells me there is another problem here besides who the QB is.

We also win 5 games max without Romo this year.................Just saying.
 

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Boyzmamacita;2685647 said:
The good thing is, according to Spags Romo and Roy were working out together early one morning this week. And several reports have them working together a few times a week. So at least Romo's head is in the right place. And Roy is eager to be prepared as well. We'll see how it all pans out.
I hadn't read that before, but I'm delighted to hear it.
 

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Rampage;2685368 said:
he needs to get serious. this isn't fun and games anymore when teams start playing tough football in December and January.

God forbid he should be having fun playing football. What a real ******* right?
 

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EPL0c0;2686043 said:
The defense is not excused by any means.

Despite leading the league in sacks, the pressure on the QB was inconsistant, had MANY penalties, poor tackling, gave up big plays, and most importantly forced few turnovers (8ints); when teams like Cleveland, Oakland, Houston and Cinci have more INTs, there's little to be proud of there.


This is an amazing quote. Not sure in the history of profootball has a fan ever said this about his team.
 
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