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SCHLERETH: Gibbs must deliver Taylor-made message

Published: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:17 PM EST
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Columnist Mark Schlereth thinks that Commanders head coach Joe Gibbs should bench safety Sean Taylor following a game ejection and a fine by the league for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman last Saturday. (Andrew Harnik/Examiner file)
Mark Schlereth
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Character. Integrity. Commitment. Leadership. Respect.

These are essential words. Like the reeds of a wicker basket, these words are woven together to become the foundation of every NFL organization’s mission statement.


In every facility, from behind their lecterns, coaches address the team trying to incite passion, unity and a reverence for the organizational tenets. These leaders of men talk about the sacrifice it takes to do something special. That only the toughest men, both mentally and physically, have what it takes to survive the rigors of a season. They talk about becoming a great football player, a great teammate, a great husband, a great father and a great man in the community.

Commanders coach Joe Gibbs is the living embodiment of the doctrine and principles that NFL franchises adhere to.



In the four years I was a member of the Washington Commanders while Joe was the coach, I never saw him waiver from his beliefs. I never heard him utter an expletive. I never saw him act out of selfishness or empty conceit. He was always true to the messages he delivered. Team ahead of individual, that’s the message that came down from the podium, and it’s the same message Gibbs needs to send to the whole Commander organization by benching Sean Taylor.

I believe in grace. I believe in second chances. But I also believe there’s no right way to do something wrong, and allowing Sean Taylor to play is wrong.

I sat in a meeting room in 1989 after Dexter Manley was suspended for life from the NFL for a third positive drug test. I listened to Coach Gibbs talk about how wrong it is to make concessions for a player simply because he has great talent. Sean Taylor is a supremely gifted athlete and he may be the most physically intimidating safety in the entire league. But spitting in the face of Tampa Bay’s Michael Pittman’s is a dehumanizing act committed by a cowardly player. Allowing Taylor to take the field this Saturday in Seattle sends a message to every player: The organizational tenets we ask you to adhere are only going to be followed by the organization when they benefit the organization.



In 1995, I signed a free agent contract with the Denver Broncos. During that season we had an incident where a Kansas City Chiefs player took a malicious cheap shot on one of our players and injured him. Twice a year for the next three seasons, every time we played the Chiefs, Broncos Coach Mike Shanahan talked about that play and how that player could never suit up for the Broncos because of his lack of character and integrity.

Shanahan preached those beliefs right up until 1999, when he made that Chief — cornerback Dale Carter — the highest-paid player on our defense.

That decision not only sent shockwaves through our locker room but also had everyone feeling betrayed. I don’t believe that it’s a mere coincidence the Broncos haven’t won a playoff game since.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. Sean Taylor’s behaviors make it painfully obvious he doesn’t understand that concept.

It is the responsibility of Joe Gibbs and the Commanders to stand firm in their beliefs and send a message to Taylor, the team, and the league that character, integrity, commitment, leadership and respect are more important than any one player.
 

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Yeah, well, thats not going to happen. He is not going to be benched. Principles be damned.
 

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odog422 said:
SCHLERETH: Gibbs must deliver Taylor-made message

Published: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:17 PM EST
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Columnist Mark Schlereth thinks that Commanders head coach Joe Gibbs should bench safety Sean Taylor following a game ejection and a fine by the league for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman last Saturday. (Andrew Harnik/Examiner file)
Mark Schlereth
Examiner columnist

Character. Integrity. Commitment. Leadership. Respect.

These are essential words. Like the reeds of a wicker basket, these words are woven together to become the foundation of every NFL organization’s mission statement.


In every facility, from behind their lecterns, coaches address the team trying to incite passion, unity and a reverence for the organizational tenets. These leaders of men talk about the sacrifice it takes to do something special. That only the toughest men, both mentally and physically, have what it takes to survive the rigors of a season. They talk about becoming a great football player, a great teammate, a great husband, a great father and a great man in the community.

Commanders coach Joe Gibbs is the living embodiment of the doctrine and principles that NFL franchises adhere to.



In the four years I was a member of the Washington Commanders while Joe was the coach, I never saw him waiver from his beliefs. I never heard him utter an expletive. I never saw him act out of selfishness or empty conceit. He was always true to the messages he delivered. Team ahead of individual, that’s the message that came down from the podium, and it’s the same message Gibbs needs to send to the whole Commander organization by benching Sean Taylor.

I believe in grace. I believe in second chances. But I also believe there’s no right way to do something wrong, and allowing Sean Taylor to play is wrong.

I sat in a meeting room in 1989 after Dexter Manley was suspended for life from the NFL for a third positive drug test. I listened to Coach Gibbs talk about how wrong it is to make concessions for a player simply because he has great talent. Sean Taylor is a supremely gifted athlete and he may be the most physically intimidating safety in the entire league. But spitting in the face of Tampa Bay’s Michael Pittman’s is a dehumanizing act committed by a cowardly player. Allowing Taylor to take the field this Saturday in Seattle sends a message to every player: The organizational tenets we ask you to adhere are only going to be followed by the organization when they benefit the organization.



In 1995, I signed a free agent contract with the Denver Broncos. During that season we had an incident where a Kansas City Chiefs player took a malicious cheap shot on one of our players and injured him. Twice a year for the next three seasons, every time we played the Chiefs, Broncos Coach Mike Shanahan talked about that play and how that player could never suit up for the Broncos because of his lack of character and integrity.

Shanahan preached those beliefs right up until 1999, when he made that Chief — cornerback Dale Carter — the highest-paid player on our defense.

That decision not only sent shockwaves through our locker room but also had everyone feeling betrayed. I don’t believe that it’s a mere coincidence the Broncos haven’t won a playoff game since.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. Sean Taylor’s behaviors make it painfully obvious he doesn’t understand that concept.

It is the responsibility of Joe Gibbs and the Commanders to stand firm in their beliefs and send a message to Taylor, the team, and the league that character, integrity, commitment, leadership and respect are more important than any one player.

Shanahan also let Romonowski play for Denver and he was a spitter, too.

I don't think Taylor or any player should be suspended for spitting. It deserves a 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection, but it is not worthy of suspension. That punishment does not fit the crime. Spitting for the most part does not harm the other player. The only thing it does is make the spitter look bad and lose some respect around the league. That to me is the bigger punishment.

I have seen guys punch and kick other players and not get suspended. I have seen guys punch other players below the belt. They don't get suspended for doing that and that act is far worse than spitting.

Joe Gibbs does not need to do anything else to punish Taylor. I am not even certain that he could. The NFLPA would step in and throw a fit and they would probably win their arguement.
 

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Taylor has jeopardized his reputation. From now on, referees will keep an extra eye on him and any more illegal antics will cause him to lose even more money than what is regularly levied on first-time offenders. These things accumulate, as Taylor's 17K fine dwarfs that which was imposed on Romo (and his spit was clearly visible and more graphic).

Let's not also forget that his trial is next week.
 

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Boysathelm said:
Let's not also forget that his trial is next week.

No, he's getting another continuance for the playoffs. Won't need it after this weekend though.
 

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Not to worry, Taylor's benching, along with the rest of the lot, will be automatic after the Redskunks get whooped by the Seafowl on Sunday... Then Danny Boy can take his maroon kids camping in the forest after this weekend... They'll all have a lot of time on their hands pretty soon.
 

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If Gibbs chose to deactivate Taylor for that game, there would be nothing the NFLPA could, or would do about it. And, the NFLPA is a players association, they certainly don't want to be seen condoning spitting on each other.

But, Taylor has already been fined $17,000 by the NFL, so I doubt if Gibbs will add anything to it.
 

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Taylor will play - Gibbs sold his sole to the Devil when he signed with Danny Boy.
 

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Vertigo_17 said:
Taylor will play - Gibbs sold his sole to the Devil when he signed with Danny Boy.

I guess he had to sell his sole to Snyder because he had already sold his soul in order to win his last Superbowl with Mark Rypien at QB. :D
 

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Gibbs may be a Christian, but he ain't no Saint. Dexter Manley wasn't exactly a choir boy and I'm pretty sure he played under Gibbs for a long time.
 

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Let the NFL punish Taylor. Did the cowboys ever punish Irvin? I do not fault Gibbs for playing Taylor.
 

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Pittman's a big dude. He could have swept the turf with Taylor's head. Whish he would have.
 

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Whether anyone agrees should Gibbs play or sit Taylor or not, the message of the thread is excellent. The message is that coaches preach one thing but live out something else, sending conflicting messages to the troops (players).

The behavior of the Taylors, Arringtons, TOs, etc. would be affected if the coaches would walk the talk.
 

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joseephuss said:
Shanahan also let Romonowski play for Denver and he was a spitter, too.

I don't think Taylor or any player should be suspended for spitting. It deserves a 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection, but it is not worthy of suspension. That punishment does not fit the crime. Spitting for the most part does not harm the other player. The only thing it does is make the spitter look bad and lose some respect around the league. That to me is the bigger punishment.

I have seen guys punch and kick other players and not get suspended. I have seen guys punch other players below the belt. They don't get suspended for doing that and that act is far worse than spitting.

Joe Gibbs does not need to do anything else to punish Taylor. I am not even certain that he could. The NFLPA would step in and throw a fit and they would probably win their arguement.

I agree.

Why are we even putting Joe Gibbs on the hot seat?

It irritates me that people are always trying to find flaws in guys who aspire to a higher set of standards.

Taylor was fined $17,000. The league took care of it.

Why does Gibbs need to make a statement? If he did, people would start condemning him for being too harsh.

Let it go.
 

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Rockytop6 said:
Whether anyone agrees should Gibbs play or sit Taylor or not, the message of the thread is excellent. The message is that coaches preach one thing but live out something else, sending conflicting messages to the troops (players).

The behavior of the Taylors, Arringtons, TOs, etc. would be affected if the coaches would walk the talk.

But the coaches don't run the teams, the owners do.

You think Danny boy would approve of Gibbs sitting one of team's stars with a playoff game on the line?
 

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joseephuss said:
Shanahan also let Romonowski play for Denver and he was a spitter, too.

I don't think Taylor or any player should be suspended for spitting. It deserves a 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection, but it is not worthy of suspension. That punishment does not fit the crime. Spitting for the most part does not harm the other player. The only thing it does is make the spitter look bad and lose some respect around the league. That to me is the bigger punishment.

I have seen guys punch and kick other players and not get suspended. I have seen guys punch other players below the belt. They don't get suspended for doing that and that act is far worse than spitting.

Joe Gibbs does not need to do anything else to punish Taylor. I am not even certain that he could. The NFLPA would step in and throw a fit and they would probably win their arguement.

I totally disagree with you. Spitting on another human is a disgusting thing to do and it shows a total lack of respectful for the other player, the team, the NFL and your own teammates. Gibbs should suspend taylor. He won't because he wants to win more than do the right thing. All the other rule violations that you see, I see, we all see, have no bearing on any of this. Just because I dont get a ticket for speeding, doesn't mean I didnt break the law. We all dislike the Commanders for reasons pertaining to our rivarly with them, but this goes beyond that. If the Commanders dont take any action against this thug , it just shows how little class that organization has, period. And NFLPA has no say in who a coach activates or don't on game day.

If my son, spit on a kid at school, I would hope the school would punish him for it, but whether they did or not, you can bet the little man wouldn't be sitting down anytime soon by the time i got done with him. The fine, 17k, is nothing compared to what these guys make, as a matter of fact, it was only his bonus playoff money anyway. that is not enough for someone who shows that little respect for his own organization. I can only think what would happen, if i was to spit on a co-worker,, i doubt i would only be suspended for a day of work. This was a huge mistake made by a class less man, if Gibbs wants to retain his respect around the league, he needs to show that respect is more important than talent at some point. OR Gibbs will join the club of no class, scum, and thugs in this league.
 

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Gibbs will do anything to win. thats apparent from the cast of hoodlums he has assembled in d.c. lavar, Clinton (the clown) and the mad spitter are the poster children of the proud skins nation.

They should be mighty proud. :laugh1: :laugh2: :lmao2:
 

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joseephuss said:
Shanahan also let Romonowski play for Denver and he was a spitter, too.

I don't think Taylor or any player should be suspended for spitting. It deserves a 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection, but it is not worthy of suspension. That punishment does not fit the crime. Spitting for the most part does not harm the other player. The only thing it does is make the spitter look bad and lose some respect around the league. That to me is the bigger punishment.

I have seen guys punch and kick other players and not get suspended. I have seen guys punch other players below the belt. They don't get suspended for doing that and that act is far worse than spitting.

Joe Gibbs does not need to do anything else to punish Taylor. I am not even certain that he could. The NFLPA would step in and throw a fit and they would probably win their arguement.

I agree. Taylor has already been ejected from the game in question and that's punishment enough for his error. Sounds to me like somebody just wants to bench all of the Commander starters so that can't possibly win. Sour grapes maybe.
 
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