Does WR Roy Williams Have A Future In Detroit

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Roy Williams wants to be here. That's what he says, and during camp, that's what he's showing. The Lions want Williams here. That's what they say, and during camp, that's what they're showing. That's all good. Williams can (should?) be one of the NFL's top receivers and can (should?) give the Lions a terrific tandem with Calvin Johnson.

But there remains a mystery about Williams, one that will play out in the final season of his five-year contract, after which the team and the player must make a tough choice. The mental machinations already are under way, evidenced by trade rumors that swirled during the offseason. Williams still affixes his smile, still talks confidently, still is the energetic guy at practice who interacts with fans.

He's probably the best-known player, and yet I doubt we've seen the best of him. And with the Lions'increased, and necessary, emphasis on the running game, who knows if we'll see all his big-play potential. Even now, it's hard to tell what Williams represents. The future? The past?

The squandered talent and unfulfilled promise? Williams is a fine player, an entertaining guy who can be enormously personable. But it's as if each side is waiting for the other. Will Williams be good enough this season that the Lions will have to keep him? Will the Lions be good enough that Williams will want to stay?

"It's not a distraction but it kind of gets to me, like, what's gonna happen?" Williams said. "It's just a business, man. I heard there were offers for me so it must mean I'm pretty good. I don't know the future. I don't know if I'm gonna be here or not. They can franchise me (keep him for a lucrative one-year contract) and I'd be here for another year and then it'd start all over again." When I asked if he wants to stay, Williams repeated what he said before, semi-convincingly. "Oh, yeah, anybody wants to stay where they got drafted," he said. "And then when they get to the end of their career, they want to go home.

I talk strongly about Texas because I'm from there but I don't talk strongly about the Cowboys or the Texans. I would love to stay here, get to the playoffs here, be part of history here." -- Detroit News
 

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See you in dallas next year Roy. Just hold tight.
 

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Pick6TerenceNewman;2174545 said:
He has to stay healthy and have a big year for that to remotely happen.

healthy yes. a big year? won't matter really. to make it happen detroit has to not franchise him but if they do, it's only to max trade value.
 

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Saturday and Sunday he left Lions practices very angry. Per the Detroit Free Press.

Trade request from his agent on the horizon? We shall see.
 

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I could really see that next season, unless our youngsters step up this year which is'nt out of the question.
 

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Hostile;2174551 said:
Saturday and Sunday he left Lions practices very angry. Per the Detroit Free Press.

Trade request from his agent on the horizon? We shall see.

hos, what would you see that we have we could make a legit offer with?

1st round pick next year and who?
 

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iceberg;2174573 said:
hos, what would you see that we have we could make a legit offer with?

1st round pick next year and who?
Anthony Henry once Jones is re-instated. They are thin at CB, we have depth. henry will be a UFA after 2009 and we wouldn't re-sign him anyway.

Benefits both teams.
 

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Hostile;2174578 said:
Anthony Henry once Jones is re-instated. They are thin at CB, we have depth. henry will be a UFA after 2009 and we wouldn't re-sign him anyway.

Benefits both teams.

i was thinking ball or ogelsby (sp?) but if they're both up and coming like you, i'd rather keep our youth while we're in a position where losing his experience isn't a killer.

would detroit do it?
 

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Well.....we don't have Dexter Coakley anymore.

I would think a trade involving Henry and possibly Ellis might do it.

But I'm not sure I would like for us to give up Ellis. Burnett and Carpenter have both had solid camps. But both are playing ILB.

Spencer and Ware would be a good solid tandem...but there's little depth behind them.

Henry/Ball/Oglesby...maybe even Watkins....and a draft pick (second?) might do it.
 

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Found this quote

Wide receiver Roy Williams was unhappy with something during practice for the second straight day, but he wouldn't say what it was. "I'm frustrated, man," he said. "I can't answer no questions."
 
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Hostile;2174551 said:
Saturday and Sunday he left Lions practices very angry. Per the Detroit Free Press.

Trade request from his agent on the horizon? We shall see.


I saw that as well. I am not a big Roy Williams fan but I would support the move if we don't give up too much.
 

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iceberg;2174584 said:
i was thinking ball or ogelsby (sp?) but if they're both up and coming like you, i'd rather keep our youth while we're in a position where losing his experience isn't a killer.

would detroit do it?
I wish I knew. They need CB help badly. Their starters are Brian Kelly and Travis Fisher.

if they were going to keep him past this year I think they would have offered him a long term deal by now. They haven't. On top of this they are planning to go to a more run oriented attack, so he becomes less valuable there too. They have WR depth and can afford to trade him.

We need a WR.

Seems like a perfect fit to me. I doubt Jerry makes a call until we have Jones re-instated. He's not going to risk a rookie until then.
 

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talk strongly about Texas because I'm from there but I don't talk strongly about the Cowboys or the Texans. I would love to stay here, get to the playoffs here, be part of history here." -- Detroit News

Um, Roy, if you ever play NFL ball in Texas, it would surely be with either the Cowboys or Texans, being that they are the only two teams there. Take your pick - the highly-talented, high-profile, going places Cowboys or the can't-seem-to-get-it-together-who-cares-about-them-anyway Texans.
 

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Hostile;2174669 said:
I wish I knew. They need CB help badly. Their starters are Brian Kelly and Travis Fisher.

if they were going to keep him past this year I think they would have offered him a long term deal by now. They haven't. On top of this they are planning to go to a more run oriented attack, so he becomes less valuable there too. They have WR depth and can afford to trade him.

We need a WR.

Seems like a perfect fit to me. I doubt Jerry makes a call until we have Jones re-instated. He's not going to risk a rookie until then.

Our CB depth is more important than our WR depth. And we've got more (not much, but more) experience on our WR bench. No way do we risk finishing this season with Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick starting for us after Pacman's next nightclub episode.

We can get RW for the cost of a huge financial commitment next offseason if we want him. Or the year after that if he's franchised. I don't see trading our CB depth during a Superbowl run and a #1 for him making any sense at all. I would give them a #1 for him straight up right now to give us his services and experience this year in exchange for not having to draft a WR late in the first round next year. Maybe the #1 and either Ball or Oglesby if we're going to cut one of them anyway. Anything more than that is a reach in my book.
 
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Hmm seems as though Roy Williams will be leaving Detroit... Of course all the right things will be said now because he's under contract. I'd love to see him in Dallas, reminds me of Michael Irvin, maybe 88 can take him under his wing as well.
 

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Ok.. Soo.. Carpenter and Ogelsby.. I really don't want to see Henry go.. but it's quite possible.

Or maybe it's Carpenter and Spears.. which as much as I'm in the middle on Spears.. I think he is a solid contributor and I think he can help the team.

I doubt they want Ellis..
 

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31smackdown;2174922 said:
Ok.. Soo.. Carpenter and Ogelsby.. I really don't want to see Henry go.. but it's quite possible.

Or maybe it's Carpenter and Spears.. which as much as I'm in the middle on Spears.. I think he is a solid contributor and I think he can help the team.

I doubt they want Ellis..
I would bet Carpenter is not in the mix, but Spears or Ellis could be.
 

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could the roy williams speculation just go away already.

Lets draft our own next year.

Brad sham was on with norm last week and he said "high ranking scout with the cowboys told him had we selected bowe like we should have we could be punching the ticket already"

that was a pretty bold statement I thought. I cant imagine us trading for anyone at this point though.
 

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theebs;2174934 said:
could the roy williams speculation just go away already.

Lets draft our own next year.

Brad sham was on with norm last week and he said "high ranking scout with the cowboys told him had we selected bowe like we should have we could be punching the ticket already"

that was a pretty bold statement I thought. I cant imagine us trading for anyone at this point though.
My apologies theebs. My fault for not letting it go. I have a reason not to.

Michael Crabtree in 2009 Draft? I know for a fact we like him a lot.
 
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