Doomed: Is It Real Or Imagined

[TwoDeep3]

OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

 

[5Stars]

 

[CoCo]

Its not either at this point.

The Dallas Cowboy's problem of team chemistry amongst players & coaches, injuries and personnel shortcomings are very real. Could that doom the team? I guess it depends on what you mean by doom.

1. Doomed to a 2009 that leaves us all SB starved yet again?
2. Doomed to fall short of winning a PO game?
3. Doomed to fall short of the PO's again?
4. Doomed to slide backawards again from that long ago 13-3 mark?
5. Doomed to more embarrassing performances like the games against Philly, Baltimore & St Louis?
6. Doomed to...

Make your own selection as to what this franchise may be doomed to. But based upon the realities that took place in 2008 which lead to all of the above, its as real today as it was just a few weeks ago.

Now on February 5th of 2009 none of that is a certainty to begin recurring 7 months from now, because there are 7 months left to take preventive measures. That is PLENTY of time to right this ship.

Will we? Good question.

 

[zrinkill]

DOOOOOMMMMMEEEEDDDDDD!!!

 

[lcharles]

If you think we are close to winning a Superbowl you must have not watched the team I saw this year.


This team is in bad need of roster churning and REAL COACHING.


Oh yeah, we went 13-3 just last season. Nice try. We should have lost the buffalo game, we should have lost the Detroit game, so 11-5 was more realistic.

This season? We barely squeeked by the Bengals at home with Romo.

We put up two of the most embarrasing losses in Cowboy history with the playoffs on the line to finish the season.


You can go ahead and make your Superbowl reservations if you want to, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[Chief]

I don't share your optimism, TD.

When the ringleader of this circus says chemistry is overrated and says he doesn't mind the headline-grabbing drama of locker room paranoia, subscribes to a dysfunctional system where players come to him, undercutting whatever authority the coaches have, then I don't see it.

I used to think Jerry wants to win more than anything, but I don't think that anymore. I think he would like to win as long as he gets credit and it's done his way, with his type of players (baggage welcome).

 

[SibannacRex]

OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

I've been a lifelong Cowboys fan. I always defended this team and put up with most of my family throughout the tough years (most of which are Commanders fans).

But this year I've realized that the problem with this team is Jerry Jones. He's done very little without Jimmy. He's been the only person that's been part of this team during the entire 13 year no playoff win drought. This regular season and offseason he's compounded bad decisions with more bad decisions. The RW11 trade is Joey Galloway no. 2.

He's put us in a hole for years to come. This team will end up 9-7 next season. We'll fire Wade, bring on some other lame duck coach and hope he can resurrect what will be an aging team that's done nothing. I actually think that this group of Cowboys has had their best years already. Last year and the year before were golden opportunities we threw away.

This post exemplifies the denial that the fan base is experiencing. JJ has repeatedly made mistakes and we have just gotten so used to it that we can't help but be blinded by it all.

 

[bbgun]

In the words of Ed Grimley, "Doomed as doomed can be." Those 13 wins, like our three mid-90s championships, might as well have been a million years ago.

 

[notherbob]

The last thirteen years: were they real or imagined?

They have a talented bunch of people on board, they just aren't motivated to play as a team and Jerry does not understand that concept, he's all about individual superstars and the others don't really matter.

It is fundamentally the wrong approach to a team sport.

 

[Hostile]

OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

Thanks Ishmael. Good post. I think there is a lot of over reacting due to bitterness about 2008. I confess to some too, but I refuse to let it make me become as soft headed as a Commanders fan.

 

[adbutcher]

OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The doom and gloom is baseless IMO. I think most people around here think they know more about football especially pro football than they do and I also think they are myopic and do not look to the past.

I look to the 2006 Giants for the closest empirical example of what we are going through.

1) The Giants finished a disappointing 6-10 much worse than our winning record.

2) Coughlin was portrayed as a coach that had lost control of his team and did not have the respect of his players. He vowed to change and everyone claimed that he could not and that it was too late. I think that should sound pretty familiar.

3) Tiki Barber was telling anyone who would listen that the Giants lockerroom was in shambles adn that there were factions and they all hated Coughlin. Sounds like our esteemed ananymous source

4) The NY market is a huge market where pubs like the NY Post LOVE to bash any semblence of weakness. The NY metro area was in a frenzy claiming that they were doomed as long as Coughlin remained coach. Sound familiar?

Well what happened? Oh yeah they won the Super Bowl the next year.

And lets not forget that we were 9-7 and 4 of the teams that beat us went onto the Conference Championships. We were in all of those games but one. We beat the Eagles early in the year.

I really think that if Cowboys Nation could stop acting like a bunch of jaded women they could see that but for whatever reason people enjoy the sky is falling mentality.

 

[Doomsay]

OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

Ahh.. with these guys we fell to 9-7, not sure what the point is of that statement. You have to ask yourself why we failed so miserably last year and then ask yourself what is going to change this year. Don't use injuries as an excuse, because we lost fewer starters than most teams and were tied for first in terms of having 14 starters in every game. A few players here and there are not going to make a difference if they continue to play without guidance or common purpose.


You don't win tough games late in the season without a good coach unless you are ridiculously talented like the 95 squad, pretty sure we are not at that level. The media just reflects the idiocy of Jerry and the clowns that he has assembled.

 

[TNCowboy]

This great thread has shocked me back to reality.

For a minute I thought that Wade Phillips was our coach, we went 9-7 again, missed the playoffs again, and that our next playoff win would be our first in 13 years.

Whew.

 

[adbutcher]

The doom and gloom is baseless IMO. I think most people around here think they know more about football especially pro football than they do and I also think they are myopic and do not look to the past.

I look to the 2006 Giants for the closest empirical example of what we are going through.

1) The Giants finished a disappointing 6-10 much worse than our winning record.

2) Coughlin was portrayed as a coach that had lost control of his team and did not have the respect of his players. He vowed to change and everyone claimed that he could not and that it was too late. I think that should sound pretty familiar.

3) Tiki Barber was telling anyone who would listen that the Giants lockerroom was in shambles adn that there were factions and they all hated Coughlin. Sounds like our esteemed ananymous source

4) The NY market is a huge market where pubs like the NY Post LOVE to bash any semblence of weakness. The NY metro area was in a frenzy claiming that they were doomed as long as Coughlin remained coach. Sound familiar?

Well what happened? Oh yeah they won the Super Bowl the next year.

And lets not forget that we were 9-7 and 4 of the teams that beat us went onto the Conference Championships. We were in all of those games but one. We beat the Eagles early in the year.

I really think that if Cowboys Nation could stop acting like a bunch of jaded women they could see that but for whatever reason people enjoy the sky is falling mentality.

I agree. Actually I made the same point in one of the other doom and gloom threads. This is the Not For Long, fortunes change from season to season. I am not buying into the self loathing and misery. I can't wait until free agency and the draft so we can officially put 2008 to bed.

 

[Doomsay]

The doom and gloom is baseless IMO. I think most people around here think they know more about football especially pro football than they do and I also think they are myopic and do not look to the past.

I look to the 2006 Giants for the closest empirical example of what we are going through.

1) The Giants finished a disappointing 6-10 much worse than our winning record.

2) Coughlin was portrayed as a coach that had lost control of his team and did not have the respect of his players. He vowed to change and everyone claimed that he could not and that it was too late. I think that should sound pretty familiar.

3) Tiki Barber was telling anyone who would listen that the Giants lockerroom was in shambles adn that there were factions and they all hated Coughlin. Sounds like our esteemed ananymous source

4) The NY market is a huge market where pubs like the NY Post LOVE to bash any semblence of weakness. The NY metro area was in a frenzy claiming that they were doomed as long as Coughlin remained coach. Sound familiar?

Well what happened? Oh yeah they won the Super Bowl the next year.

And lets not forget that we were 9-7 and 4 of the teams that beat us went onto the Conference Championships. We were in all of those games but one. We beat the Eagles early in the year.

I really think that if Cowboys Nation could stop acting like a bunch of jaded women they could see that but for whatever reason people enjoy the sky is falling mentality.

The Mara / Coughlin - Jones / Wilson compare and contrast is kind of a stretch. Don't forget that we were comparing ourselves to the '07 Giants after we beat the lowly Commanders - Clearly, the power of suggestion has it's limitations.

 

[Doomsay]

This great thread has shocked me back to reality.

For a minute I thought that Wade Phillips was our coach, we went 9-7 again, missed the playoffs again, and that our next playoff win would be our first in 13 years.

Whew.

.......

 

[chinch]

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

lucky wins (det, buf) and sporano overseeing techmo-jason.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

ROTF we lost to the rams.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

only homers think no injuries will happen next year.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

team has alot of OVERPAID JAGS really.

and the "terrific players" are mishandled and poorly coached

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

see our use of felix & choice if you think the "draft" will help this season. ROTFLMO.

sorry.

 

[Nav22]

Bottom line: by the time September rolls around, everyone will be as pumped and excited about the season as they are any other year.

Which is why I don't let offseason "drama" get me down. I'll enjoy the Pro Bowl, the draft, minicamps/TC, and the preseason then count down the seconds down to the start of the regular season... like I do every year.

Go Cowboys.

 

[THUMPER]

The last thirteen years: were they real or imagined?

They have a talented bunch of people on board, they just aren't motivated to play as a team and Jerry does not understand that concept, he's all about individual superstars and the others don't really matter.

It is fundamentally the wrong approach to a team sport.

Exactly! Football is the ultimate team sport and the individual must be part of that team or it will fail. Jerry would do better as an NBA or MLB owner where a superstar can have a greater effect on the game.

Teamwork and a willingness to submit your ego is an essential for football. Jerry doesn't get that. Neither do many fans evidently.