Doomed: Is It Real Or Imagined

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Nav22;2624513 said:
Bottom line: by the time September rolls around, everyone will be as pumped and excited about the season as they are any other year.

Which is why I don't let offseason "drama" get me down. I'll enjoy the Pro Bowl, the draft, minicamps/TC, and the preseason then count down the seconds down to the start of the regular season... like I do every year.

Go Cowboys.

It is the dumb season, but I think there was some pretty bad drama on and off the field during the regular season. I've never seen a Cowboy team fold like they did in that Eagles game. Last year's unprecedented 1st round playoff loss by a top seed was bad enough, but things really deteriorated down the stretch this past season. Don't see the fake GM coming up with any real answers only generating more questions.

Deteriorating situations don't fix themselves. Poor play calling, receiver revolts, league leading mistakes, poor effort, bad team chemistry all were evident by the end of the season, and there is nobody on this staff capable of fixing the problem. For the first time since Bill pulled us out of Jerry World, I don't have much hope that things will be any better than in the previous season.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2624225 said:
The doom and gloom is baseless IMO. I think most people around here think they know more about football especially pro football than they do and I also think they are myopic and do not look to the past.

Agreed. Not only that they can also deduce so much from "between the lines" of each article, speak as if they know who anonymous sources are for sure and know exactly everything that goes on in the locker room as if they were a fly on the wall.

Me, I'm back to my crystal ball. :)
 

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TwoDeep3;2623877 said:
OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

Amazing, I couldn't find a single lie in here.
 

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Doomsay;2624242 said:
Ahh.. with these guys we fell to 9-7, not sure what the point is of that statement. You have to ask yourself why we failed so miserably last year and then ask yourself what is going to change this year. Don't use injuries as an excuse, because we lost fewer starters than most teams and were tied for first in terms of having 14 starters in every game. A few players here and there are not going to make a difference if they continue to play without guidance or common purpose.


You don't win tough games late in the season without a good coach unless you are ridiculously talented like the 95 squad, pretty sure we are not at that level. The media just reflects the idiocy of Jerry and the clowns that he has assembled.

You're kidding, right? You don't understand what I said?

Simple, if the team went 13-3 the year before, and we added these players, but were decimated by injury, then how can any of us think we cannot return to the top when we have health and the rookies having a year under their belt.

All the rest is grousing if we don't truly know if the injuries were at the core of the problem.

And not one person on this board knows for sure.

So maybe we need to stop looking at this as if Hurricane Jerry just waylaid the Cowboys like Katrina did Nawlins.

Maybe it isn't so bad after all and we are too close to the subject.
 

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TwoDeep3;2625421 said:
You're kidding, right? You don't understand what I said?

Simple, if the team went 13-3 the year before, and we added these players, but were decimated by injury, then how can any of us think we cannot return to the top when we have health and the rookies having a year under their belt.

All the rest is grousing if we don't truly know if the injuries were at the core of the problem.

And not one person on this board knows for sure.

So maybe we need to stop looking at this as if Hurricane Jerry just waylaid the Cowboys like Katrina did Nawlins.

Maybe it isn't so bad after all and we are too close to the subject.
And frustrated beyond ability to see straight.
 

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With the way we finished the season, combined with no changes made to those in charge, you can't blame anyone for having a fatalistic outlook for the upcoming season. But we really do have a good team. Something just needs to happen, and noone knows what that is - which is why we're so frustrated.
 

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lcharles;2623907 said:
If you think we are close to winning a Superbowl you must have not watched the team I saw this year.


This team is in bad need of roster churning and REAL COACHING.


Oh yeah, we went 13-3 just last season. Nice try. We should have lost the buffalo game, we should have lost the Detroit game, so 11-5 was more realistic.

This season? We barely squeeked by the Bengals at home with Romo.

We put up two of the most embarrasing losses in Cowboy history with the playoffs on the line to finish the season.


You can go ahead and make your Superbowl reservations if you want to, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon. :)
I'm sure the Cardinals fans were saying something similar after their 07 season. So was Miami. Maybe even the Steelers. The point is, last year's win/loss ratio will never tell you what next years will be.
 

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TwoDeep3;2623877 said:
OK, I am as guilty as others thinking unless Jerry hands the GM over to someone with football knowledge, that this franchise will forever be mired in football mistakes.

But is this real or our perception. Is this something we can never get by or just an issue fabricated by the press and our egos are assaulted daily that this is the truth.

Without Felix, RoyWi11iams, Choice, Bennett, Standrich and Jenkins this team went 13-3.

Now there will be a lot of people who say that we did not finish strong. But teams have to learn how to win the tough games late in the season. Some teams it takes longer than others.

People will also say the coaching is the problem. But we still came out and beat the snot out of the NFL last season.

As much as we all want to win. And suffer every setback as if it is life or death, maybe we need to take a step back and look at last season as an injury year that tore up the chemistry of the team.

Of course there will be those that say injuries don't count.

Tell that to the Pats who didn't go back to the Super Bowl.

The point is, this team has great components, and this past season is surely not the norm for the team that has so many terrific players.

Draft well and make a small splash in FA and we could be hoisting number six this next Jan/Feb.

And that has to bring most of us out of our fatalist mood about the team. Even with Jerry's hands on the steering wheel.

Excellent post.

Problem is no one is going to buy into it that doesn't already agree with you.

This team faced a lot of issues last year and to me by far the biggest was loss of talent. We lost talent with Sparano moving on, we lost talent with injuries on the field and we lost talent with guys like Romo playing hurt. We also faced an insanely tough schedule.

So while doubters will remain doubters gamblers agree with you. Dallas is given the second best odds of winning a SB next season. Higher chances than the doubters favorite team: the Steelers.
 

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superpunk;2625431 said:
With the way we finished the season, combined with no changes made to those in charge, you can't blame anyone for having a fatalistic outlook for the upcoming season. But we really do have a good team. Something just needs to happen, and noone knows what that is - which is why we're so frustrated.
You're right, I can't.
 

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Hey guys, Coughlin and the Giants turned it around two years ago, therefore we can too!!!!!!!!!!!!

One thing people seem to forget is that Coughlin is a hard*** and Wade is the exact opposite. It's alot easier to let up from being too tough than it is to go from being too soft and then suddenly try and become an enforcer. Not to mention Coughlin didn't have an overbearing owner/GM controlling half his staff and meddling every chance he got.

Forget the specifics, because by golly, it makes for a good story. Kind of like when those '99 Rams went from 5-11 to the Super Bowl. Next thing you know we finish 5-11 and some said "if the Rams can do it so can we." So we turned it around 360 degrees and went 5-11 again, and again. But at least it provided some false hope for some for a few years.

I guess now we can look to the Cardinals. They just went 9-7 and made it to the Super Bowl. Oh lookie here, we just went 9-7. Unfortunately for us we don't have a good HC who has full control over his staff like the Cards have. Nor do we have a front office that keeps out of the way and limits distractions like the Cardinals. But forget the specifics, look at the Cardinals and act like we can do it too. It'll at least make for a good story.
 

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I really love the "We lost to the Rams," comments.

So those players are paid, we turned the ball over many times, and Brad was the QB of the day.

How can anyone look at that and think "it's the Rams and we are so good we should beat them," even with mistakes and a guy who couldn't throw a newspaper from the street to the porch?

When fans of other teams make remarks that the Dallas fanbase is arrogant, this may be one of the reason they think so.
 

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Hostile;2625462 said:
You're right, I can't.

Of course, I don't think that makes it ok for the fatalists to be unbelievably annoying.

There are some posters on here who are "One-track" posters. They are just as bad as trolls. No thread can go by without them harping on their one particular bone to pick. I mean really....are they that unbelievably, pathetically boring that they can't offer their input on a variety of different subjects instead of beating the same gong all the time?

And they just take over thread after thread, with the same stupid *** arguments and mantras and finger-pointing, only they keep sucking in different players. Sometimes they keep sucking in the same players, I guess.

Anyhow it's just ridiculous. We're all upset. If you can't vary your input from time to time, then just piss off. You're not entertaining anyone.
 

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superpunk;2625496 said:
Of course, I don't think that makes it ok for the fatalists to be unbelievably annoying.

There are some posters on here who are "One-track" posters. They are just as bad as trolls. No thread can go by without them harping on their one particular bone to pick. I mean really....are they that unbelievably, pathetically boring that they can't offer their input on a variety of different subjects instead of beating the same gong all the time?

And they just take over thread after thread, with the same stupid *** arguments and mantras and finger-pointing, only they keep sucking in different players. Sometimes they keep sucking in the same players, I guess.

Anyhow it's just ridiculous. We're all upset. If you can't vary your input from time to time, then just piss off. You're not entertaining anyone.
Both sides are needed and useful. I have an issue when neither side can have give and take. When everything is an absolute I tend to turn a blind eye and deaf ear. If I can. It happens on both sides of the fence and both sides accuse me of their opposite stance. I am a hater and a homer depending upon who I debate.

I get to the point where I ignore certain posters the best I can since I still see their posts. I try and respond to people who respond to me, but some I simply don't even bother to read. When someone is a caricature of their Internet persona I simply scan for Guidelines violations and move on.

One reason I like your posts is because you are critical and complimentary without going overboard either way.
 
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