Double Standard... Seeing Is Believing...

[realtick]

Granted we have almost led the league on penalties under Wade the last
4 years.

You could have ended the post right there and found your answer.

 

[dueyhemlock]

Noob Kombat!

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[Hostile]

This is hilarious.

So we are now comparing AP's celebration to Colombo as if they were one in the same?

First off, Colombo wasn't even directly involved in the play, in other words he wasn't the guy that scored the TD.

Second, his "celebration" or whatever you want to call it happened well after the play; after he ran up to follow Witten in the endzone; after being handed the ball and spiking it on his own; after having Witten come back to him to do their crotch to crotch air bump. The broadcast didn't even have a replay of it initially because it happend so after-the-fact.

Third, Colombo went to his back, not his knees.

With AP, he scored the TD, instantly went to his knees which is essentially the universal sign of praying/praising.

Yet, because Cowboy fans want an explanation/alibi for their teams poor play they're being over critical in expecting the refs to analyze AP's praying posture and finger placement.

Lol, so what is the acceptable praying posture and finger placement. Is it one finger in the sky pointing upwards? Is it pushing your palms together like a five-year old? Is it sitting in the lotus position?

What is it?

Blocking is not being part of the play?

Holy cow man.

AP went to his knees, raised both arms with peace signs.

That is not prayer.

There is a clear double standard going on.

Now they say the penalty was on Hurd for a hand gesture. The hook em horns sign. Yet the mile High Salute is okay.

Fans are right to be pissed off at the disparity.

 

[tupperware]

This is hilarious.

So we are now comparing AP's celebration to Colombo as if they were one in the same?

First off, Colombo wasn't even directly involved in the play, in other words he wasn't the guy that scored the TD.

Second, his "celebration" or whatever you want to call it happened well after the play; after he ran up to follow Witten in the endzone; after being handed the ball and spiking it on his own; after having Witten come back to him to do their crotch to crotch air bump. The broadcast didn't even have a replay of it initially because it happend so after-the-fact.

Third, Colombo went to his back, not his knees.

With AP, he scored the TD, instantly went to his knees which is essentially the universal sign of praying/praising.

Yet, because Cowboy fans want an explanation/alibi for their teams poor play they're being over critical in expecting the refs to analyze AP's praying posture and finger placement.

Lol, so what is the acceptable praying posture and finger placement. Is it one finger in the sky pointing upwards? Is it pushing your palms together like a five-year old? Is it sitting in the lotus position?

What is it?

So then, based on the facts at hand, I expect the rule book to read as such.

Any player on the scoring team who did not score the touchdown themselves is disallowed from participating in any post touchdown celebrations that involve the exchange of the ball and/or dropping to the ground whether intentional or unintentional.

Seriously, if they're not going to make it 100% clear on what is or isn't a penalty they shouldn't be making off the cuff calls. That is interpretation and Mr. Carl Johnson said they don't do that. And also, no one is saying this is the reason why we've lost. Shoot, I'm not even saying the flags weren't somewhat warranted in the sense that our players are undisciplined all around, but if you're going to make judgment calls the freaking rules better be more clear.

 

[NQS]

What team is that boy.

What's it matter?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

What religion or denomination of a religion tells its sheep to drop to both knees, spread apart and toss up two peace signs?

I wish some of our players would start praising the lord by round house kicking referees in the face and say it's a religious practice.

:laugh2:

 

[tupperware]

What's it matter?

Me thinks he must be a fan of an equally abysmal team who doesn't wish to give us any ammunition. Must be a Vikings fan.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

So we are 1-4 because of referee bias? Good gracious.

 

[bbgun]

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praise jeezus

 

[Jarv]

What's it matter?

Your team mus not matter, because you are here.

Are you teamless, poor boy.

 

[bbgun]

So we are 4-1 because of referee bias? Good gracious.

Thank you refs! :

 

[realtick]

Blocking is not being part of the play?

Holy cow man.

AP went to his knees, raised both arms with peace signs.

That is not prayer.

There is a clear double standard going on.

Now they say the penalty was on Hurd for a hand gesture. The hook em horns sign. Yet the mile High Salute is okay.

Fans are right to be pissed off at the disparity.

How predictable; I knew someone would try to say something like that to avoid the weaknesses of their own claims.

No, plainly speaking, Colombo was not the individual who scored the touchdown. What is the confusion?

So what is the proper and acceptable kneeling prayer/praise posture? Also, be so kind to point out where you got the information detailing the parameters too.

 

[tupperware]

So we are 4-1 because of referee bias? Good gracious.

We're not that lucky.

But no, we're not 1-4 because of the referees. But when you've already got boatloads of problems on your team, poor officiating doesn't need to be added to the list.

 

[tupperware]

How predictable; I knew someone would try to say something like that to avoid the weaknesses of their own claims.

No, plainly speaking, Colombo was not the individual who scored the touchdown. What is the confusion?

So what is the proper and acceptable kneeling prayer/praise posture? Also, be so kind to point out where you got the information detailing the parameters too.

Actually, that's the problem right there, there doesn't need to be an exception for such a thing, because then, once again it is left open to a judgment call or interpretation.

You can thank god without dropping to your knees and throwing up peace signs.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Thank you refs! :

oooopppppsies.

 

[Jarv]

http://img89.*************/img89/8384/vike303.png

praise jeezus

Thats a prayer, huh.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

We're not that lucky.

But no, we're not 1-4 because of the referees. But when you've already got boatloads of problems on your team, poor officiating doesn't need to be added to the list.

A 1-4 team Shouldn't be worried about celebration penalties.
There isn't much to celebrate. If they focused on correcting their mistakes
and won a few............

 

[NQS]

Your team mus not matter, because you are here.

Are you teamless, poor boy.

 

[tupperware]

A 1-4 team Shouldn't be worried about celebration penalties.
There isn't much to celebrate. If they focused on correcting their mistakes
and won a few............

I'm not disagreeing. Though I'm not sure how plausible it is to expect football players to not celebrate when they score, regardless of record. That's a topic for a different thread. The issue here is referee inconsistency. Some of the posters coming into this thread seem to think we're losing games because of the referees. That's not what I'm thinking, but they sure are making life difficult with their inconsistent calls.

 

[realtick]

So then, based on the facts at hand, I expect the rule book to read as such.

Any player on the scoring team who did not score the touchdown themselves is disallowed from participating in any post touchdown celebrations that involve the exchange of the ball and/or dropping to the ground whether intentional or unintentional.

Seriously, if they're not going to make it 100% clear on what is or isn't a penalty they shouldn't be making off the cuff calls. That is interpretation and Mr. Carl Johnson said they don't do that. And also, no one is saying this is the reason why we've lost. Shoot, I'm not even saying the flags weren't somewhat warranted in the sense that our players are undisciplined all around, but if you're going to make judgment calls the freaking rules better be more clear.

Carl Johnson was saying the refs are given an explanation or guideline of what is and isn't a penalty. When he said the refs aren't there to "interpret" the intent, he's saying the refs aren't there to make a judgemental interpretation of why (intent) you went to the ground (ie. by accident...for celebration...et cetera).

Plain and simple, Colombo went to the ground.

It's not the refs jobs to interpret whether it was intentional or not, they are to only address what actually did happen ie. going to the ground.

Is it anal and open to criticism? Absolutely and I'll join my fellow fans in ridiculing the vaguery of it.

Was it the wrong call according to the predetermined guidelines? Absolutely not.