Dr. Z blurb... How heated was the debate on Michael Irvin?

[gbrittain]

I have said before I would vote for Monk to be in the HOF. However, in my mind you can look at this and see from a "statistical standpoint" why Monk has not been a lock that most would think he would be.


Monk:
Seasons among the league's top 10
Receptions: 1984-1, 1985-2, 1988-9t, 1989-3t
Receiving yards: 1984-4, 1985-3, 1989-10
Receiving TDs: 1991-9t


Stallworth:
Seasons among the league's top 10
Receptions: 1979-6, 1984-4t, 1985-8
Receiving yards: 1977-5, 1979-2, 1981-10, 1984-2
Receiving TDs: 1977-6t, 1978-4t, 1979-8t, 1982-3, 1984-4
Rush/Receive TDs: 1982-9t, 1984-10t


Swann:
Receptions: 1977-7t, 1978-7t
Receiving yards: 1975-8, 1977-4, 1978-7
Receiving TDs: 1975-1t, 1977-6t, 1978-2
Rush/Receive TDs: 1975-7t, 1978-5t

Irvin:
Receptions: 1991-2, 1992-7, 1993-3, 1995-5
Receiving yards: 1991-1, 1992-2, 1993-2, 1994-8, 1995-4, 1997-8t
Receiving TDs: 1991-9t, 1992-8t, 1993-9t, 1995-10t, 1997-6t
Yards from scrimmage: 1991-4, 1992-10, 1993-8, 1995-9


Kind of like Bledsoe. Bledsoe when he retires is going to be one of the leading QBs in terms of "statistical" accomplishment in the history of the NFL. In my mind he is no where near deserving of the HOF. However, from a statistical standpoing you make a much better case for him deserving the HOF than Art Monk.

I am not privvy to how the case for Monk being in the HOF is being argued, but I think I would not focus on stats and focus on intangibles and where he ranks among the other WRs of his time and I do not mean statistically.

 

[tnbk]

If Lynn Swann was the measure for a HOF WR it would be way overcrowded

I live near ****zburgh and have to argue with these jerks all the time

 

[Royal Laegotti]

1. How long did Harper help Irvin out?


2. How bad was Harper once he left Dallas? Since Harper was such a non-factor once he left Dallas, you could reason that he really wasn't very good and Irvin carried him.



YAKUZA

I'm not lobbying for Harp in the HoF fellas. I'm just saying they need to give him more credit than that. Harper stunk in Tampa, but who at that time went there and did good? Mike and Harp were GREAT together for that 4 yr period.