Draft Day Players on the trading block?

[Idgit]

The thing with Beasley is he is in last year of his contract
Next year he walks
Switzer was a fine receiver in college and though he played little he showed he does the same things Beasley does
Trade him now or lose him next year

He'll walk next year, if Switzer does step up on offense, and we'll take the comp pick. But right now, he's a guy Dak trusts to be where he's supposed to be, and he's a guy who draws coverage on third downs regularly. With Dez' future up in the air, and two new guys coming in and a 2nd year player without a lot of offensive experience behind him, it's not Dak-friendly to trade away the little white security blanket right now.

 

[conner01]

He'll walk next year, if Switzer does step up on offense, and we'll take the comp pick. But right now, he's a guy Dak trusts to be where he's supposed to be, and he's a guy who draws coverage on third downs regularly. With Dez' future up in the air, and two new guys coming in and a 2nd year player without a lot of offensive experience behind him, it's not Dak-friendly to trade away the little white security blanket right now.

He did pretty well with the little white security blanket in the eagles game lol
No guarantees on comp picks
I take the bird in the hand plus Hurn and Dez can also play the slot

 

[visionary]

I think the traction for trading Beasley comes from his salary and the fact that there are too many WRs in the room, especially if we draft one high (a number of our 30 visits are WRs). If we keep Dez, we don't have room for: Dez, Hurns, T Will, D. Thompson, Beasley, Switzer, rookie, Noah Brown. To me, Beasley is the obvious goner. Cutting T Will makes no sense financially because there is absolutely no cap savings. Switzer is a core special teamer. Hurns and Thompson just signed. Presumably, Dez restructured. Brown is a great blocker. Not going to keep more than 6-7 on 53 roster (last year we kept 6). So doing the math, Bease is most likely to go.

Agree
Last time I was there Beasley had to stand because all chairs were taken

 

[Corso]

Reminds me of the song "Desert Skies" by The Marshall Tucker Band.

Where the Cowboy wants to be buried in the desert with his boots and 6-shooter with no grave marker.
Great song and album, off the Carolina Dreams album. 1977 or there about I think.

Great song. I need to sit down with that album.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

1. Beasley is 29.
2. The receiver room is currently crowded.
3. Beasley is the only player in that room with distinct trade value and a tradeable contract.
4. They have his heir-apparent in Switzer already on the team.
5. I'm starting to question Beasley's mindset - there was an interview with him and Ben/Skin recently...if you haven't listened to it, you should give it a listen. Based on what I heard, it definitely sounds like he doesn't love football like he used to. Maybe it's being a family man now, but he just doesn't seem to have the same passion he used to. Also, he mentioned he's about to start working out to get in shape for the season by playing pick-up basketball. I don't question that you can get in shape doing that. I do question whether or not you can get better at your craft playing a completely different sport at his level of play. And, as the saying goes, if you aren't get better, you are getting worse. Something to watch...

Also, he is an aspiring rapper. And remember, he walked out of his first training camp and had to be coaxed by Jerry to return... that is all to say that I agree that his #1 priority might not be football.

 

[Idgit]

He did pretty well with the little white security blanket in the eagles game lol
No guarantees on comp picks
I take the bird in the hand plus Hurn and Dez can also play the slot

Bah. Beasley is sure to get attention in the FA market next year. He'll sign a decent deal somewhere.

The issues weren't with Beasley last year. The issues were with the protection, and then with Dak.

Dez is the one who legit might not be here. Hurn can play the slot, but he was pretty clear that a reason he came here was to get the outside opportunities he didn't think he was getting in JAX once they moved him inside.

Bease is here for 2018 unless he's moved as part of a legit trade to bring in another established player if a team happens to like him. I don't think that'd happen either, for the record, but he's tradable at least in that he's productive and has a reasonable contract.

 

[JoeKing]

This thread demonstrates what lack of knowledge the posters on CowboysZone truly have. Such bad ideas being discussed. Some of you are legit, know what you are talking about folks but you are way outnumbered.

 

[Redball Express]

1. Dez. No he will not be traded. unless we get an extra 1st somehow and select Ridley. But very doubtful, Dez stays
2. Beasley. Yes trade him, as we have Switzer to replace his spot.
3. Jones. I doubt this, with Kris Richard here, I can see him finding ways to get him more involved to his skill sets. Especially since Scandrick is gone.
4. Hanna. I can see him or Swaim traded, if they want to target a TE in the draft to take over for Witten next year. But also Rico is a big factor, but they should not count on him just yet.
5. Lee. No way, he is here to stay.

Other possibilities are any DE's. Say they sign Early, and Gregory is reinstated. Though may not be by draft time. Bt there will be a glut all of a sudden at DE. Tapper, or Gregory could be traded, if not at draft time, more likely during TC.

Crawford, but doubt anyone takes on his contract. Maybe Easy can play some on the inside as well, and Crawford gets released, saves cap space.

Gregory?

Jerrah needs to invite him to the bus and roll him A BIG FATTY and hand him his outright release.

 

[conner01]

Bah. Beasley is sure to get attention in the FA market next year. He'll sign a decent deal somewhere.

The issues weren't with Beasley last year. The issues were with the protection, and then with Dak.

Dez is the one who legit might not be here. Hurn can play the slot, but he was pretty clear that a reason he came here was to get the outside opportunities he didn't think he was getting in JAX once they moved him inside.

Bease is here for 2018 unless he's moved as part of a legit trade to bring in another established player if a team happens to like him. I don't think that'd happen either, for the record, but he's tradable at least in that he's productive and has a reasonable contract.

Hurns best year was outside
I think he is better there myself
I’m too old to wait two years for comp picks lol
I’m ready to get better now
I’d pkg Beasley with a couple of lower picks and try to add another second
My thinking is that gives you 4 picks in top 3 rnds
That would allow you to add a LB, a starter quality guard, maybe a nice safety prospect and a future replacement for dez or his replacement this year if they cut him
I just want to use most of this draft on the front 7 and that allows you more ammo to address those spots
Love Beasley but for once I’d love to see a guy traded rather than walk and have to wait and pray for a comp pic

 

[Redball Express]

Hurns best year was outside
I think he is better there myself
I’m too old to wait two years for comp picks lol
I’m ready to get better now
I’d pkg Beasley with a couple of lower picks and try to add another second
My thinking is that gives you 4 picks in top 3 rnds
That would allow you to add a LB, a starter quality guard, maybe a nice safety prospect and a future replacement for dez or his replacement this year if they cut him
I just want to use most of this draft on the front 7 and that allows you more ammo to address those spots
Love Beasley but for once I’d love to see a guy traded rather than walk and have to wait and pray for a comp pic

In my best Tonto impression...

Kemosabby..

not one of those pony soldiers worth anything.

Better to draft then cut.

Me think nobody give us anything for nobodys.

We must make much smoke and hid our draft picks as long as possible.

And we should give Jerrah a script to read from.

Him not so good at smokescreens.

Peace.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

Players generally don't get traded Draft Day...... there is no time to do physicals

Thank you. This thought ^^^ and the Sean Lee statement pushed this over the edge for me.

We're gonna trade Sean Lee, our starting All Pro LB'er, a proven best at his position in the NFL and catalyst and captain for our defense for an unproven draft choice. OK

 

[gimmesix]

Don't understand where the traction for Beasley not being on the team is coming from. He's a legit mismatch player, and Switzer has to show more on offense before he's going to be considered a replacement. We probably do let Bease walk in FA when his contract is up, but I can't see it happening before that.

Hanna might be cut outright.

There's no way we trade Lee right now. Not only are we completely dependent on his level of play, but we need him in the LB room to bring Jaylon along. We're going to be adding multiple new LBs in the draft here, and he's pretty much the perfect vet to have in that situation. It's much more likely we find a way to bring Bowman in for a couple year deal and let he and Lee play together again and sail off into the sunset together.

As far as players with trade value go, I still think Irving is a candidate. If we keep the extra TE on the roster, Hanna or Swaim could be guys you might flip for a song and a dance to a team with an injury or needing a TE2, but Hanna's cap relief probably is too tempting to ignore before we get through camp. Not really a lot of traceable assets on this team right now. We've let most of them walk in FA the last few years as it is.

I just can't see us keeping both Beasley and Williams.

If Dez is still our No. 1, Hurns is either No. 2 or No. 3. So what is Williams? If Williams isn't No. 2 and he's not No. 3, then he's just occupying a spot because he doesn't play special teams. If Williams is No. 2 and Hurns No. 3 or vice versa, then the same essentially holds true for Beasley. Switzer is the punt returner and Thompson is probably the kick returner. And Brown covers kicks. If we're looking to get more speed on the field, then Thompson also may see time in three- and four-receiver sets.

What I think is that Beasley (along with our coaching staff's incompetence) was exposed last year. He spent 2016 eating up single coverage out of the slot on those short in and out routes. In 2017, defensive coordinators decided to bracket him and we were unable to use him to beat them in different ways. He's not seen as a threat to get behind the defense, so that weakness is used against us.

Considering this is the last year of his contract and Dallas could save $3.25 million by trading him, if the coaching staff believes his weakness is limiting the team's options, then it would make sense to trade him. Now, there are things I believe we could do to use Beasley effectively, but not the way we are scheming things now unless some of the new receivers can make defenses pay for bracketing him.

 

[buybuydandavis]

List

Jones is the only one here that makes sense from both sides of a trade.

1 - We don't want Dez's contract. No one else does either.
2 - Beasley takes double teams and outplays his contract. We should be looking to extend him rather than cut him.
3 - Jones - I think he's plausible trade value. He fits the test. He's worth more to other teams than he is to us, *and* his contract is good value.
4 - Hanna is a blocking TE, and they obviously have no intention of making anything more. His current contract has negative value, and he's 28, too old to be a developmental project.
5 - Lee is an irreplaceable talent as a coach on the field. *Perfect* to get the best out of a young defense. We should keep milking that as long as we can. We've got a good core of young players. We should be the team hoping that Lee can take them over the top.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

What kind of haul would I get for DeMarcus Lawrence? Brandin Cooks has been traded twice for 1st round picks.

 

[Verdict]

First off I am not "for" getting rid of Beasley. I am as big of a Beasley fan as anyone on this board. I am also realistic, and try to be objective. Here are what we know:

1. Beasley is a very good player, with a favorable contract, that would be desirable for a team to acquire. That's the first criterion.
2. We aren't keeping 10 receivers on the final 53 man roster. If we don't draft a receiver it is plausible that Beasley and everyone else stays. But if you connect the dots, the team is likely to draft a receiver, and maybe even more than one. Someone has to go.
3. Hurns may end up being your slot receiver. He plays the position well.
4. I think Dez or Beasley or both may be gone. I think it is better than 50/50 one of these guys is gone.
5. Moving Beasley saves cap dollars.
6. Beasley is a free agent after this year. I don't think he is going to get a big contract from us. He may get a pretty decent bump in salary.

 

[Idgit]

I just can't see us keeping both Beasley and Williams.

If Dez is still our No. 1, Hurns is either No. 2 or No. 3. So what is Williams? If Williams isn't No. 2 and he's not No. 3, then he's just occupying a spot because he doesn't play special teams. If Williams is No. 2 and Hurns No. 3 or vice versa, then the same essentially holds true for Beasley. Switzer is the punt returner and Thompson is probably the kick returner. And Brown covers kicks. If we're looking to get more speed on the field, then Thompson also may see time in three- and four-receiver sets.

What I think is that Beasley (along with our coaching staff's incompetence) was exposed last year. He spent 2016 eating up single coverage out of the slot on those short in and out routes. In 2017, defensive coordinators decided to bracket him and we were unable to use him to beat them in different ways. He's not seen as a threat to get behind the defense, so that weakness is used against us.

Considering this is the last year of his contract and Dallas could save $3.25 million by trading him, if the coaching staff believes his weakness is limiting the team's options, then it would make sense to trade him. Now, there are things I believe we could do to use Beasley effectively, but not the way we are scheming things now unless some of the new receivers can make defenses pay for bracketing him.

I have to admit, I'm confused by the logjam at WR right now. What I *think* happened is they replaced Butler with Thompson and brought in Hurns as a hedge against Dez not taking a deal and because Terrence had the undisclosed broken foot. The thought being that the competition would be good for everybody and Hurns could essentially handicap both outside positions. Physically, Hurns looks more like a possible replacement for Williams to me than he does Beasley.

You're right that the cap hits argue the opposite way. I just can't see the team putting Dak in the situation where they release his go-to third down receiver and put two new guys on the field alongside Dez who he's already not really on the same page with for whatever reason. Especially since they just drafted Switzer in part to handicap Beasely's role in the offense in case he went down because they deemed that spot too important to not have a backup just last season.

 

[Jake0]

I bet Hurns will mostly be outside with the option of going to the slot if needed (like if Switzer gets hurt).

Maybe they want receivers in the future that can play multiple roles like Hurns and not Beas?

If a WR gets drafted, which based on pre-draft activity, looks like is going to happen, someone has to go. Trading Beasley for a draft pick is the best option if he isn't expected to make the 53 anyways.

Dez/Hurns/Draft Pick/TWill/Switzer/Thompson/Beasley/Noah Brown

Only 6 of those 8 make the 53?

 

[dallasdave]

Of the list, my guess would be Beasley. As to how they will try to use him, I think they'll draft BPA that fits a need in the first then try and package Beasley with a pick or two to get back in the late first to high second range and snag their receiver...who most likely figures to take Beasley's spot, so DJ Moore or Christian Kirk...depending on who falls. If both fall, my pick would be DJ Moore.

I like that idea, Beas will be 30 next year and next year is his last year under contract.

 

[Rayman70]

Last year we found out that the team tried to move Scandrick on draft day but had no takers. Who may be traded/made available during the draft this year.

Here are my best guess:

1. Dez. But I sort of doubt there may be any takers. Even with inflation he is still overpaid.

2. Beasley. Good player. Tradeable. Good value. One year left on his contract. For the draft pick compensation it would be a low risk deal for the acquiring team. May get a 4th or 5th out of him. He may be the odd man out with all the receivers on the roster. Plus at times I think he may have copped a bit of an attitude last year. Not sure about that tho.

3. Byron Jones. Former first round pick. They have probably been using him wrong. Haven't really settled him in but the talent is undeniable. Someone may think they know more about developing DBs and that would be hard to deny. Someone may pay a 4th or 5th for him. I'm not sure I would let him go for that.

4. Hanna. I would like to see Hanna as the heir apparent to Witten. Rico may be the guy that they will have that chance to. Hanna has speed. This is the type of player that The Hoodie would pick up and turn him into Gronk-lite. Someone might give up a 5th to 7th round pick for him. I think he is worth more than most would think he is.

5. Sean Lee. Elder statesman. If we draft two or three young guys (or plan to) them Sean Lee might become expendable. Maybe they move Jaylon to his spot and use the pick for Lee to draft another linebacker.

Lee has talent, is a good value for his contract and would be a player someone might want to put them over the top. But he doesn't have a lot of years left and we seem to be going toward the youth movement. A team might be willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd to get him. I year ago he was probably worth a 2nd but with his age a 3rd or 4th might be the most a team would offer for him.

I probably wouldn't let Lee go for less than a high 3rd in terms of pick value.

No one is giving up draft picks for any player on your list. Why should they? Hanna is a 3rd stringer...and old. Sean Lee has perennial hammy issues..and getting old....Jones has never done a thing...Bease is a number 3 wide out..a slot wr...NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

 

[dallasdave]

Great song. I need to sit down with that album.

I can remember growing up and no one ever pronounced the last name of the group the right way.