Draft Option

Oh_Canada;4351500 said:
Fix the "big uglies" and this team gets a whole lot better a whole lot faster. If you can protect the QB, the wr's get better, the rb's become better, the QB gets A LOT better.

If you can put consistent pressure on the opposing QB without having to blitz all the time, the secondary improves instantly.

Case(s) in point.....Look at GB & NO. Do you think the two QB's from those teams would have made a difference here,behind this patch work O-Line?
I don't.
 
Smith22;4351526 said:
Easily could settle for:

center
guard
corner
defensive end
nose tackle
outside linebacker
safety

OLB, CB and center would be my top priority.

Carter will have a full offseason to improve at ILB. Just adding a fast cover corner and a pass rushing OLB could improve this defense by leaps and bounds.

The offense can make due if we can improve the interior and consider swapping Free and Smith.

you dont know what you have in Carter, and if Carter or Lee is injured, what's behind them...this team is thin everywhere..
 
cds99;4351541 said:
If you are Jerruh Jones do u move up in the draft to grab Morris Claiborne to get the best corner in the draft or stay put and get better than average at the position

I haven't watched enough college ball this year, but with the holes we have, I would imagine we can take a top notch player at OLB, Corner, Guard, or Safety at 14. We have enough holes that trading down shouldn't be necessary unless the deal is something out of this world that doesn't involve a big drop.
 
Smith22;4351526 said:
Easily could settle for:

center
guard
corner
defensive end
nose tackle
outside linebacker
safety

OLB, CB and center would be my top priority.

Carter will have a full offseason to improve at ILB. Just adding a fast cover corner and a pass rushing OLB could improve this defense by leaps and bounds.

The offense can make due if we can improve the interior and consider swapping Free and Smith.

Well a defensive player is at the top, I don't see Jerry picking a guard that early, I would rather pick a RT and move Free inside instead of picking a guard in the first round.

Guards are deep this year, go later with them, but a CB is at the top of needs along with a pass rusher. We can't be choosy there, either get the BPA or move up and get who we really want.
 
As much as i loved the pick of Tyron smith this past draft, i think the team messed up by not get patrick peterson. He shut dez down when we played the cards. The kid is a rookie and looks awesome. We could had took him and grabbed someone in the later rounds to address the OL
 
The Quest for Six;4351548 said:
you dont know what you have in Carter, and if Carter or Lee is injured, what's behind them...this team is thin everywhere..

The focus will clearly be on starters. Newman will be gone and we have to move on from Spencer or pay to keep him. I would move on. We need depth at ILB, but it would not be my priority. We can't fill every hole in 1 offseason.
 
Deep_Freeze;4351555 said:
Well a defensive player is at the top, I don't see Jerry picking a guard that early, I would rather pick a RT and move Free inside instead of picking a guard in the first round.

Guards are deep this year, go later with them, but a CB is at the top of needs along with a pass rusher. We can't be choosy there, either get the BPA or move up and get who we really want.

OLB and CB would be my top 2 choices as well. Spencer just hasn't been what the team hoped for. In my opinion, OLB and CB is the quickest solution to improving this defense. Safety and ILB would be next, but I think OLB and CB could mask a lot of our issues.
 
We can't be choosy there, either get the BPA or move up and get who we really want.[/quote]

The spot we are drafting, is pretty good. If we are moving up its for a CB which will be for kirkpatrick or claiborne. I dont think kirkpatrick is worth moving up for and RGIII isnt IMO worth moving up for. Well he is but if you are moving up to get him to might as well go get the top guy at QB
 
trying to be the first team to host and play in a Superbowl has really hampered this team and that's all on Jerry Jones..
 
Smith22;4351569 said:
OLB and CB would be my top 2 choices as well. Spencer just hasn't been what the team hoped for. In my opinion, OLB and CB is the quickest solution to improving this defense. Safety and ILB would be next, but I think OLB and CB could mask a lot of our issues.

As of right now, not really a safety worth a first round pick that high. Alot of later round safeties have success, and I figure its a position we need to address with a later pick.

cds99;4351574 said:
We can't be choosy there, either get the BPA or move up and get who we really want.

The spot we are drafting, is pretty good. If we are moving up its for a CB which will be for kirkpatrick or claiborne. I dont think kirkpatrick is worth moving up for and RGIII isnt IMO worth moving up for. Well he is but if you are moving up to get him to might as well go get the top guy at QB

Well, it depends on how they work out and such, as to who is worth moving up for. But if there is a true impact player for the D, we should definitely move up and get him by any means necessary.

We aren't in a position to just fill in a role player for this D, we need an instant defensive rookie of the year prospect to make a real difference on D.
 
cds99;4351558 said:
As much as i loved the pick of Tyron smith this past draft, i think the team messed up by not get patrick peterson. He shut dez down when we played the cards. The kid is a rookie and looks awesome. We could had took him and grabbed someone in the later rounds to address the OL

I am intrigued. How would Dallas have been able to jump the cardinals to get Peterson?
 
Deep_Freeze;4351614 said:
As of right now, not really a safety worth a first round pick that high. Alot of later round safeties have success, and I figure its a position we need to address with a later pick.


Well, it depends on how they work out and such, as to who is worth moving up for. But if there is a true impact player for the D, we should definitely move up and get him by any means necessary.

We aren't in a position to just fill in a role player for this D, we need an instant defensive rookie of the year prospect to make a real difference on D.


Is claiborne near the prospect that PP was last year???
 
Joe Rod;4351620 said:
I am intrigued. How would Dallas have been able to jump the cardinals to get Peterson?

Well its kind of crazy but it would involve draft picks. The same way falcons moved up to get julio jones. Wouldnt have took near as much and dallas wasnt going up say 20 spots to get him. Only four spots
 
Dodger;4351631 said:
This is a joke, right?

Very much so. i know he isnt near the prospect but comparing the two was PP that much better in college than Claiborne was
 
Deep_Freeze;4351642 said:
Nah not even close athletically.

Team would prob be better off to get ingram or decastro and grab a cb in the 2nd
 
cds99;4351409 said:
First of let me say that i think this is my first thread started, as i just always lurk and sit back and observe and watch others talk and just enjoy it all. I love the forum and get on it numerous times every day of my life. Beyond that i hate our season is over but enjoyed watching our Cowboys play and always cant wait till the next.
This is not a Romo hating thread nor to any player on the team, its just for fun and to see what everyone thinks of different scenerio's. I know there are a lot of Romo haters on the forum and i cant say that i have never said anything negative cause i have. We all just want a QB that always performs and dont mess up, which doesnt exist in this world so..... However i do they he is a very good QB, that there is better but so much worse. Him compared to guys like a P. Manning or a Brady which have had much success, i think that he does lack certain things that top tier QB's have that are drafted early. Now not all top drafted QB's make it but the odds are better if you look at the ones drafted at top of the charts. Let me repeat myself this is NOT a romo hating thread i just want to see what everyone would do. If you have the power and control of the Dallas Cowboys would you trade your entire draft, or entire draft plus next year's certain picks for Andrew Luck. You hear so many things that he is literally a once every decade or two type player and you knew he WOULD be what everyone thinks he will be, would you be willing to set the team back another 1 to 2 years for a top tier, possibly SB caliber type player???? I know no one but the lord knows what kind of succees this guy is going to have in his career but it is fun to sit and think about it.
Please no smart a** answers. This is just for fun guys and gals


Why would you sell everything, when any qb prospect is a crapshoot. You never know 100% what any qb prospect will be? It would be more stupidity from this organization to do something like this.
 
Bigtommyb;4351796 said:
Why would you sell everything, when any qb prospect is a crapshoot. You never know 100% what any qb prospect will be? It would be more stupidity from this organization to do something like this.

If you read the full post i said if you knew somehow he was the real deal. I said no one but the man upstairs knows this of course but if you truly 100% knew he was would you not pull the trigger and get him. I know the odds of getting a P. Manning, its slim to none. However our team isnt getting younger neither is the QB
 
cds99;4351634 said:
Well its kind of crazy but it would involve draft picks. The same way falcons moved up to get julio jones. Wouldnt have took near as much and dallas wasnt going up say 20 spots to get him. Only four spots

That sounds simple, but that isn't reality. Reality is that multiple teams did try to move up to get Peterson (Lions, Texans were two that I know of for certain), but there were no teams that really wanted to deal because their primary targets were set to drop to them. Dallas was rumored to be attempting to jump past Arizona, but could not get there. Part of that may be because Arizona was so set on taking one of Miller/Peterson, they would have countered any offer to ensure they got one of them.

Carolina - They were set on Cam Newton and did not want to trade down. Great decision on their part. Cam has completely revitalized that franchise.
Denver - John Elway wanted Von Miller, period. Said he reminded him of Derrick Thomas. He did not want to trade down. Miller was awesome this season.
Buffalo - The Bills had not picked this high since the mid-1980s (Bruce Smith) and they wanted to stay and draft an elite player at the spot. From what I've heard, it was a good pick because Dareus has already became a leader in the lockerroom. This was supposedly the team that Dallas tried to deal with but could not make it work because the Bills weren't that interested in budging and they were also flirting with Arizona by using other teams' proposals as leverage for trading with the Cardinals.
Cincy - They released both their starting wide-outs and desperately wanted Green, who fell right into their laps. Good pick because he was great this season.
Arizona - They wanted either Von Miller or Peterson from this draft. Von Miller was gone. They entertained offers but would not pull the trigger unless it was a ridiculous bounty that they could not ignore.

So again, my question is how would Dallas have been able to move up and get him? There was no trading partner that was really interested in budging at that time.

When I asked, I thought you might have some info that I had not heard.
 

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