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I hope we draft at #2, but for sure in the top 4. Then have the right frame of mind. Don't rule out getting our franchise QB in the first, if that is what the draft board gives you, but don't force it either.

Realistically, if you draft a first round QB, the odds are he won't be any better than Kellen Moore already is, so it doesn't help your backup position in 2016 by taking a QB in the first round. The odds of getting good QB play out of him in 2017 is pretty good, but not in 2016.

At #4 you look for the next J.J. Watt, Julio Jones, Revis, Keuchly, etc. You don't draft a Brandon Weeden type of talent at QB simply if you think that is the best this class has to offer. It becomes a wasted pick.

Address the back up QB position, but do it in free agency. Look for a guy like Russell Wilson in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. We will be drafting high in each round, which is a huge advantage in every round. While you might bust drafting a QB in the 2-4th rounds the bust cost is much less compared with taking a guy in the first.

I think you look for the best value in this draft. If a guy like Julio Jones is there you don't get cute. Just select him. If not, we could probably trade back and still get the best right tackle in this draft, which is an area of need. With the acquired additional pick you could use it to get a very good quality RB, a stud 1 Tech, or a good quality safety. Better yet, if there is no top tier talent available like a Watt or Jones, trade back twice and end up with three Sean Lee caliber players with that single pick.

Sean Lee isn't Luke Keuchly, but three Sean Lee caliber players would go a long way towards filling the holes on this roster with young talent, and you still have the rest of the draft to complete the roster build.

Don't care where they play, just get 7-10 guys who are capable of starting and having a quality NFL career out of this class. That is how championship caliber teams are built.
 

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I hope we draft at #2, but for sure in the top 4. Then have the right frame of mind. Don't rule out getting our franchise QB in the first, if that is what the draft board gives you, but don't force it either.

Realistically, if you draft a first round QB, the odds are he won't be any better than Kellen Moore already is, so it doesn't help your backup position in 2016 by taking a QB in the first round. The odds of getting good QB play out of him in 2017 is pretty good, but not in 2016.

At #4 you look for the next J.J. Watt, Julio Jones, Revis, Keuchly, etc. You don't draft a Brandon Weeden type of talent at QB simply if you think that is the best this class has to offer. It becomes a wasted pick.

Address the back up QB position, but do it in free agency. Look for a guy like Russell Wilson in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. We will be drafting high in each round, which is a huge advantage in every round. While you might bust drafting a QB in the 2-4th rounds the bust cost is much less compared with taking a guy in the first.

I think you look for the best value in this draft. If a guy like Julio Jones is there you don't get cute. Just select him. If not, we could probably trade back and still get the best right tackle in this draft, which is an area of need. With the acquired additional pick you could use it to get a very good quality RB, a stud 1 Tech, or a good quality safety. Better yet, if there is no top tier talent available like a Watt or Jones, trade back twice and end up with three Sean Lee caliber players with that single pick.

Sean Lee isn't Luke Keuchly, but three Sean Lee caliber players would go a long way towards filling the holes on this roster with young talent, and you still have the rest of the draft to complete the roster build.

Don't care where they play, just get 7-10 guys who are capable of starting and having a quality NFL career out of this class. That is how championship caliber teams are built.

I agree with your general sentiment. Let the draft fall to you. I think it's highly unrealistic to hit on 7-10 starting caliber guys in one draft though. Generally when a team can land three starters in one draft, it's considered a successful draft. I'd be happy with 4.
 

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The difference between a good draft and a bad one are the 3rd and 4th round picks. We have Chaz Green and Wilson from last year. Maybe they work out over the long term and maybe they don't but neither contributed this year while other teams are seeing come contributions from theirs.

This is going to be an important draft as this team has several positions that need to be addressed. There is also no reason a replacement for Hayden can't be found in later rounds. 5th and later.
 

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The difference between a good draft and a bad one are the 3rd and 4th round picks. We have Chaz Green and Wilson from last year. Maybe they work out over the long term and maybe they don't but neither contributed this year while other teams are seeing come contributions from theirs.

This is going to be an important draft as this team has several positions that need to be addressed. There is also no reason a replacement for Hayden can't be found in later rounds. 5th and later.

I'd take a long, hard look at Josh Augusta from Missouri in the 4th.
 

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Solid points but I take QB if his there and you think highly of him.
His the future
 

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I hope that the Cowboys make good use of all of their picks. WE could get some compensatory picks, which will come in handy. But let's not just piss off any picks because we have a few extra picks.
 

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Solid points but I take QB if his there and you think highly of him.
His the future

I have to trust that the organization will do a proper job of evaluating the available talent. I believe that if they grade one of the QB's very high, they will grab him if he's sitting there...if they pass, it'll be because they didn't think he was worth the pick. I only know two things for sure: Some very highly touted players will be available when the Cowboys pick and this will be a very interesting draft from Cowboys fans' perspective.
 

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The difference between a good draft and a bad one are the 3rd and 4th round picks. We have Chaz Green and Wilson from last year. Maybe they work out over the long term and maybe they don't but neither contributed this year while other teams are seeing come contributions from theirs.

This is going to be an important draft as this team has several positions that need to be addressed. There is also no reason a replacement for Hayden can't be found in later rounds. 5th and later.

This!!!

Other than Lawrence and Williams, how many 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks have developed into starters over the last four years? These players should be the foundation of the team.
 

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This!!!

Other than Lawrence and Williams, how many 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks have developed into starters over the last four years? These players should be the foundation of the team.

Yep and Lawrence cost us a 2nd and 3rd and WIlliams really just isn't all that good. Always getting cute with the picks after the first rd. Small college guys that never faced competition. BW Webb, Wilcox, A TE that never sees the field because we were going to change our offense to a NE style, Escobar, An Injured Tackle that never saw the field when tons of quality players were still available, Chaz Green, A developmental LB that contributed nothing, Wilson.

As you said, these picks should be the core of our team. Nothing! They better get it right this year with all of the picks we have and picking so early in the rounds.
 

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Yep and Lawrence cost us a 2nd and 3rd and WIlliams really just isn't all that good. Always getting cute with the picks after the first rd. Small college guys that never faced competition. BW Webb, Wilcox, A TE that never sees the field because we were going to change our offense to a NE style, Escobar, An Injured Tackle that never saw the field when tons of quality players were still available, Chaz Green, A developmental LB that contributed nothing, Wilson.

As you said, these picks should be the core of our team. Nothing! They better get it right this year with all of the picks we have and picking so early in the rounds.

If they haven't gotten it right in two decades....it's not getting fixed. 1st round we are great.....after that...we are below par.
 

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If they haven't gotten it right in two decades....it's not getting fixed. 1st round we are great.....after that...we are below par.

But everyone thinks Mcclay is a genius because he picked some first round Offensive linemen that are decent. Even with all the luck we have had we still can't fill a team without gaping holes. How many teams managed to stumble across a franchise QB via UDFA? Picked up two Raiders retreads that are among our best players for nothing, managed to find a 3rd rd TE over a decade ago that never misses games. Filled one of the big money needs most teams have by picking up a guy no one would touch due to domestic problems for a fraction of the price. Manged to get a 1st rd talent on the OL as a UDFA because the owner is second to none when it comes to sweet talking. Managed to get another starting caliber OL because he has bad knees but remarkably has managed to play well. Not well enough to start on this team anymore but a solid player none the less. A productive no 3 receiver as a UDFA.

But despite all of this luck year after year of bad drafting has us riddled with holes and sitting a 4 and 11.
 

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Getting 7-10 nfl starters out of 1 draft is wildly unrealistic. Probably betters odds playing the lottery. I would consider 4 with a couple of special teamers a big success.
 

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Getting 7-10 nfl starters out of 1 draft is wildly unrealistic. Probably betters odds playing the lottery. I would consider 4 with a couple of special teamers a big success.

7 to 10 is unrealistic. They can get 5 this year if they play their cards right. The problem is when you look at past drafts, you see one or two starters and a whole bunch of nothing after that. Even some guys drafted that are still on the team aren't here because they deserve it but because they are hesitant to give up on players like Street and Wilcox etc.
 

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You can't just wait on the 3rd or 4th and look for a Russell Wilson type. Seattle lucked out with him like we did w Romo. And this draft doesn't have a Julio Jones or Luke Kuechly type either.

We have a glaring need at backup QB and we have an injury prone QB. We are most likely going to be picking in the top 5 and should have a shot at Goff or Lynch.

I'd draft Lynch and love the idea of developing a 1st rd talent 6'7" athletic QB to come in and take Romos place within the next 1-2 years.

Sure he's not guaranteed to be a star, but we will most likely win more than 4 games next year and will not have an early pick in 2017 to use on a QB. Romo at that point will be 37 yrs old. So we are now looking at QB options late in the 1st which are significantly less likely to succeed. AND we are missing that opportunity to go BPA which makes more sense than reaching on a QB that late.

This is the Perfect year to draft a QB in my opinion and I'd take Lynch or Goff and be happy.
 

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I hope we draft at #2, but for sure in the top 4. Then have the right frame of mind. Don't rule out getting our franchise QB in the first, if that is what the draft board gives you, but don't force it either.

Realistically, if you draft a first round QB, the odds are he won't be any better than Kellen Moore already is, so it doesn't help your backup position in 2016 by taking a QB in the first round. The odds of getting good QB play out of him in 2017 is pretty good, but not in 2016.

At #4 you look for the next J.J. Watt, Julio Jones, Revis, Keuchly, etc. You don't draft a Brandon Weeden type of talent at QB simply if you think that is the best this class has to offer. It becomes a wasted pick.

Address the back up QB position, but do it in free agency. Look for a guy like Russell Wilson in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. We will be drafting high in each round, which is a huge advantage in every round. While you might bust drafting a QB in the 2-4th rounds the bust cost is much less compared with taking a guy in the first.

I think you look for the best value in this draft. If a guy like Julio Jones is there you don't get cute. Just select him. If not, we could probably trade back and still get the best right tackle in this draft, which is an area of need. With the acquired additional pick you could use it to get a very good quality RB, a stud 1 Tech, or a good quality safety. Better yet, if there is no top tier talent available like a Watt or Jones, trade back twice and end up with three Sean Lee caliber players with that single pick.

Sean Lee isn't Luke Keuchly, but three Sean Lee caliber players would go a long way towards filling the holes on this roster with young talent, and you still have the rest of the draft to complete the roster build.

Don't care where they play, just get 7-10 guys who are capable of starting and having a quality NFL career out of this class. That is how championship caliber teams are built.

I hear you, but if the cowboys evaluate a quarterback as a franchise QB, the pick needs to be made. It is by a long mile the biggest uncertainty facing our organization.
 

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You can't just wait on the 3rd or 4th and look for a Russell Wilson type. Seattle lucked out with him like we did w Romo. And this draft doesn't have a Julio Jones or Luke Kuechly type either.

We have a glaring need at backup QB and we have an injury prone QB. We are most likely going to be picking in the top 5 and should have a shot at Goff or Lynch.

I'd draft Lynch and love the idea of developing a 1st rd talent 6'7" athletic QB to come in and take Romos place within the next 1-2 years.

Sure he's not guaranteed to be a star, but we will most likely win more than 4 games next year and will not have an early pick in 2017 to use on a QB. Romo at that point will be 37 yrs old. So we are now looking at QB options late in the 1st which are significantly less likely to succeed. AND we are missing that opportunity to go BPA which makes more sense than reaching on a QB that late.

This is the Perfect year to draft a QB in my opinion and I'd take Lynch or Goff and be happy.

Agree on everything, assuming the Cowboys have him rated highly on their board.
 

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About the worst perspective you can have about the draft is to take or not take a player in the top 3 rounds based on what he can do that year

If we have QB rated close to another position in rd1 we better take the QB
 

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About the worst perspective you can have about the draft is to take or not take a player in the top 3 rounds based on what he can do that year

If we have QB rated close to another position in rd1 we better take the QB

Completely agree. Drafting players for what they can do in year one vs years 3-5 (or more) is what bad teams do.
 

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Cowboys need a QB whisperer just as much as a franchise QB. Talent means jack if unable to develop it.

Dallas Cowboys organization as currently constructed doesn't have a clue how to identify let alone cultivate a franchise QB.
 

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Cowboys need a QB whisperer just as much as a franchise QB. Talent means jack if unable to develop it.

Dallas Cowboys organization as currently constructed doesn't have a clue how to identify let alone cultivate a franchise QB.

I agree. I'd like to see a new QB coach brought in.
 
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