Draft Pick War Rooms

[RS12]

Jason Williams
OLB, Western Illinois

Overall grade: 5.5
Position rank: 15
Blitz/coverage: 16
Pursuit/tackling: 9
Run/pass recognition: 15
Versus inside run: 12
Versus outside run: 6

JASON WILLIAMS MEASURABLES
Height: 6-1 Weight: 238
40-yard dash: 4.44 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-9 225-lb. bench:
3-cone drill: Vertical jump: 39
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

War Room analysis
POST-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Williams was an athletic and productive player at Western Illinois, but he�s a bit stiff and straight-lined. He had a good postseason, which helped elevate his status. He will fit as an outside backer in the Cowboys' 3-4 defense and may be able to rush the passer with his speed.PRE-DRAFT ANALYIS:

Strengths: Is tough and highly competitive. Was a productive three-year starter in college. Is well built and muscular. Has the strength to stand up blockers when he keeps his knees bent and takes them on aggressively. Does a good job blitzing; beats the blocker and closes quickly on the QB to get the sack. Has quick feet. Can accelerate to full speed quickly and chase down plays in backside pursuit.

Weaknesses: Is shorter than ideal and lacks bulk despite being well built; big blockers can engulf him and ride him out of the play. Is a little inflexible, hindering his ability to get low when chasing after the ball and causing him to overrun some tackles he should make. Stiffness also hinders his coverage; struggles to close on receivers.

Bottom line: Williams has been moving up draft boards as teams evaluate his play and discover his athleticism. He is a good kid who does the things off the field necessary to be successful in the NFL. After playing inside linebacker in Western Illinois' uncommon 4-4 defense, Williams will have to adjust to playing outside linebacker in a more traditional NFL defense. We would be careful not to over-draft Williams based on his great personal workouts, because he is not a premier athlete with rare speed -- just a good athlete with good speed. He would be an ideal fifth- or sixth-round pick whose intangibles, speed and competitiveness will help him become an elite backup linebacker -- and possibly a starter -- as well as a good special teams player.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He will fit as an outside backer in the Cowboys' 3-4 defense and may be able to rush the passer with his speed

I'm continually amazed how many of these "experts" don't understand the 34 at all. At all! :bang2:

 

[RS12]

They werent impressed with this pick.

Robert Brewster
G, Ball State


Courtesy Ball State U.
Overall grade: 4.5
Position rank: 21

ROBERT BREWSTER MEASURABLES
Height: 6-4 Weight: 319
40-yard dash: 5.20 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 225-lb. bench:
3-cone drill: Vertical jump: 30

War Room analysis

POST-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Brewster lacks the quick footwork to be a productive starter in the NFL. He is very raw and will need time to develop and improve his technique. He plays too upright and will also need to improve his leverage. This is another reach that we don't believe will develop into a productive player at the next level.

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Strengths: Has a good combination of size and strength. Showed great improvement from game to game his senior season. Has good lateral movement and quick footwork in pass protection. Mirrors defenders and slides well side to side. Has good balance and a quick first step at the snap.

Weaknesses: Is a bit raw and will need time to develop. Must improve his technique and learn to do a better job gaining leverage. Must improve his lower-body strength to become a better run blocker. Lacks toughness at the point of contact. Tends to be more of a catch blocker.

Bottom line: Brewster was a consistent blocker while at Ball State. However, he needs work in the run-blocking game. Overall, he's a solid late-round pick who needs development, but could eventually work his way into a starting job at right tackle or guard.

 

[RS12]

Stephen McGee
QB, Texas A&M

Overall grade: 3.9
Position rank: 11
Accuracy/delivery: 17
Field vision: 19
Pocket awareness: 20
Running ability: 5

STEPHEN MCGEE MEASURABLES
Height: 6-2 Weight: 222
40-yard dash: 4.63 10-yard dash: 1.56
20-yard shuttle: 4.52 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 9-4 225-lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 7.34 Vertical jump: 33
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.63

War Room analysis

POST-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Some speculated that Dallas would look for a quarterback on day two, so this pick does not come as a great surprise. McGee does not have much experience in a pro-style offense, but elevated his stock in the postseason by showing the physical skills to be able to develop into an NFL quarterback. McGee gives Dallas some insurance and someone to develop for the long term, without putting extra pressure on Tony Romo.

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Strengths: Is athletic. Shows a strong enough arm to make all the NFL throws. Flashes good touch on his passes. Can make big plays scrambling. Shows the ability to move quickly and avoid sacks. Is able get outside of the pocket and throw well on the move.

Weaknesses: Is still developing as a quarterback. Needs improvement in his delivery and release. Must get better in his overall mechanics. Is not accurate enough to play in the NFL.

Bottom line: McGee was expected to step up and have a huge season in 2008, but he struggled from the beginning and his weaknesses as a passer really showed up. He is not ready to contribute as an NFL quarterback at this point and probably needs a season or two on the practice squad to work on his fundamentals.

 

[RS12]

Called this a major reach.

Victor Butler
DE, Oregon State

Overall grade: 3.6
Position rank: 38

VICTOR BUTLER MEASURABLES
Height: 6-2 Weight: 239
40-yard dash: 4.72 10-yard dash: 1.63
20-yard shuttle: 4.40 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 9-11 225-lb. bench: 24
3-cone drill: 7.22 Vertical jump: 33
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.81


War Room analysis

POST-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

While we feel that this pick is another stretch, it is clear that Bobby Carpenter may be on his way out in Dallas. Obviously 3-4 teams are always looking for depth with their linebacking corps, and Dallas hopes Butler can develop into a solid contributor.

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Butler projects as an outside linebacker after playing end for the Beavers. He got private workouts with some teams to see if he can make the transition, as well as work at the Combine. He was helped by offseason training and could get an invitation to training camp.

Correspondent Analysis
An undersized defensive end in college, the Cowboys will convert him to linebacker in hopes he can develop into a another pass rusher.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The trouble I have with Brewster is where he was taken-- It seemed to be a bit too high, but I remember when the Big E was taken in the 3rd round and he wasn't even rated in a couple of the draft guides.

Some guides are calling this Brewster kid slow-footed and others say his footing is very good-- it's his strength that needs improving. I guess we'll see.

 

[RS12]

At least he was honest about why he came out.

Brandon Williams
DE, Texas Tech

Overall grade: 7.0
Position rank: 11
Initial quickness: 11
Pass rush: 10
Pursuit/tackling: 11
Run/pass recognition: 10
Versus the run: 15

BRANDON WILLIAMS MEASURABLES
Height: 6-3 Weight: 254
40-yard dash: 4.80 10-yard dash: 1.76
20-yard shuttle: 4.50 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 9-10 225-lb. bench: 18
3-cone drill: 7.23 Vertical jump: 33
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.90

War Room analysis

POST-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Williams made his name this year with an excellent performance against Michael Oher from Mississippi. He is quick and athletic, and should develop into a decent pass rusher while playing OLB for the Cowboys.

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Williams declared for the NFL Draft after his junior season with the Red Raiders. The NFL's College Advisory Committee told him he could get picked in the third round, at the earliest. His coaches advised him to stay in school for his senior season. He finished the 2008 season with 13 sacks, bringing his college total to 22.5. The 13 sacks, all of which were solo, led the Big 12 Conference this season.

Williams' draft projection is why Texas Tech defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill said Williams is making "a big mistake" in turning pro early.

Williams said that the losses on Tech's offense, with quarterback Graham Harrell and receiver Michael Crabtree heading to the NFL, factored into his decision.

"I didn't know how Tech was going to end up next year," Williams said, "and I didn't want to take any risk of me getting hurt."

 

[theogt]

So they think Carpenter plays OLB for us? And we're supposed to respect their analysis? If they can't even get it right with the limited number of teams/players that are already in the league, how are they supposed to get it right with regard to little known players like this?

 

[NeonNinja]

So they think Carpenter plays OLB for us? And we're supposed to respect their analysis? If they can't even get it right with the limited number of teams/players that are already in the league, how are they supposed to get it right with regard to little known players like this?

Exactly.

 

[NeonNinja]

Nothing to see here.

 

[RS12]

As far as I can tell the only guy to make their Super 99.

DeAngelo Smith
CB, Cincinnati

Overall grade: 6.9
Position rank: 13
Ball skills: 11
Closing speed: 11
Coverage/skills: 22
Run support: 15
Run/pass recognition: 10
NFL comparison:
Rashean Mathis, Jaguars


DEANGELO SMITH MEASURABLES
Height: 5-10 Weight: 194
40-yard dash: 4.50 10-yard dash: 1.50
20-yard shuttle: 4.35 60-yard shuttle: 11.99
Broad jump: 9-1 225-lb. bench: 17
3-cone drill: 7.31 Vertical jump: 31
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.65

War Room analysis
Strengths: Plays physically, showing great toughness and aggressiveness. Is strong against the run and pass. Works hard. Plays under control. Shows good change-of-direction skills and outstanding short-area burst and closing ability. Uses his strength to hold up or reroute receivers. When losing a step on receivers, shows speed and savvy to gain ground quickly and get back in position. In zone coverage, shows downhill explosiveness to close quickly. Shows great hands and even better ball skills. Is aggressive in jump-ball situations. Shows the range to make plays all over the field. Is versatile.

Weaknesses: Shows some stiffness in his hips and upper body, losing receivers and allowing separation too easily. Takes an extra step out of breaks to gather himself, which hinders his ability to close quickly on the receiver.

Bottom line: Smith has some experience playing safety, but he is best suited to be a tight man-to-man, press-coverage cornerback in the NFL. He did not impress as much as expected at the Senior Bowl and is no longer considered a premier prospect. Still, his physical style warrants a possible Day 1 pick.

 

[NeonNinja]

Some of these so called "experts" are morons.

 

[theogt]

I'm continually amazed how many of these "experts" don't understand the 34 at all. At all! :bang2:

In the other thread, this website thought Carpenter played OLB for us. Seriously, they're clueless.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

In the other thread, this website thought Carpenter played OLB for us. Seriously, they're clueless.

They really are. How hard is it to do a little research on this stuff?

 

[RS12]

My bad Mickens made the Super 99 also.

Mike Mickens
CB, Cincinnati

Overall grade: 6.5
Position rank: 10
Ball skills: 10
Closing speed: 9
Coverage/skills: 10
Run support: 14
Run/pass recognition: 25
NFL comparison:
Dre Bly, Broncos


MIKE MICKENS MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 186
40-yard dash: 4.53 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 4.18 60-yard shuttle: 11.72
Broad jump: 9-11 225-lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 6.96 Vertical jump: 35
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

Mike Mickens

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a smooth athlete and shows explosiveness in all movements. Shows good footwork in man-to-man press coverage. Shows fluid hips and good knee flexion to slide laterally and prevent receivers from getting free releases. Flips his hips to turn and run with receivers, maintaining tight coverage. Is good in short areas, making plays on balls. Shows good speed, especially deep. Displays a knack for turning his head around in time to make plays on balls. Shows the range to get from one hash mark to the other to make plays. Plays with confidence. Flashes the ability to become a return man.

Weaknesses: Lacks bulk and strength to get physical with receivers and reroute them. Struggles against bigger, more physical receivers, especially in contested situations. Is only an average tackler; basically just gets in opponents' way and cuts them down. Does not always play smart and gambles too much; gets greedy in zone coverage and tries to bait the quarterback, losing coverage responsibility. Must improve read-and-reaction skills in zone coverage. Missed three games near the end of last season with an injured knee.

Bottom line: Mickens is a cover corner who plays with the attitude that he can't be beaten. He suffered a torn meniscus in his left knee late last year but worked hard to rehabilitate it and get back on the field for the Orange Bowl. While he must develop better awareness and learn to play within himself, Mickens has the traits to really move up draft boards with a good performance at the NFL Combine.

 

[RS12]

Intriguing prospect

 

[Tobal]

Sounds like Mickens will help in the slot

 

[Woods]

The trouble I have with Brewster is where he was taken-- It seemed to be a bit too high, but I remember when the Big E was taken in the 3rd round and he wasn't even rated in a couple of the draft guides.

Some guides are calling this Brewster kid slow-footed and others say his footing is very good-- it's his strength that needs improving. I guess we'll see.

Yes, I thought that his footwork was a positive.

He basically needs to get a lot stronger.

 

[Woods]

Bottom line: McGee was expected to step up and have a huge season in 2008, but he struggled from the beginning and his weaknesses as a passer really showed up. He is not ready to contribute as an NFL quarterback at this point and probably needs a season or two on the practice squad to work on his fundamentals.


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McGee was injured for a significant part of the season and didn't play.

It's hard to take the War Room analysis too seriously.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Brewster lacks the quick footwork to be a productive starter in the NFL.

Has good lateral movement and quick footwork in pass protection. Mirrors defenders and slides well side to side. Has good balance and a quick first step at the snap.

This is another reach that we don't believe will develop into a productive player at the next level.

Overall, he's a solid late-round pick who needs development, but could eventually work his way into a starting job at right tackle or guard.

More talking out their arse.

If these players aren't huge-name guys that played at big schools on TV every week, these so-called experts just make stuff up.