Draft Priorities

If decastro is not available in our draft slot then we need to select the best pass rusher available weather he be a Pure 3-4 OLB or pure 3-4 NT that can give ratliff a run for his money

we seriously need to upgrade the pass rush because if Ware goes down i don't see spencer stepping up and being the lead pass rusher
 
Flinger;4474671 said:
Suppose BPA is a TE according to the Cowboys board in round 2?

I'm not real big on speculation and hypothetical situations, but if they mean to follow their board and select the BPA as a strategy - what will people say?

Some will be outraged, some will blame Jerry as out of touch, some will take a wait and see attitude... It will be interesting.

Well it won't be the first time...

cowboysooner;4475037 said:
I don't agree with this list exactly but it interesting that your top 3 needs are positions that can usually be filled with competent players from the 3rd round and below.

Perhaps but the higher the pick the longer they take to develop.
 
CowboyFan74;4475248 said:
Well it won't be the first time...



Perhaps but the higher the pick the longer they take to develop.
True - still, an interesting study and observation.

Of course they will never do this, but wouldn't it be fascinating if the Cowboys would publish their board publically after the draft? Just to see if they truly stick with their board or rationalize based on need or perceived value...

I have to agree with DFWJC's post.
 
CATCH17;4473835 said:
Pretty much all those receivers you listed outside of Nicks suck.


If the Cowboys need to copy anything the Giants do it's how they put a high emphasis on passrushers and just throw whatever they can find out at DB.


We need Front 7 and OL and we should take those guys every year until we start dominating the LOS and then build around that.

Outstanding post.

But I wouldn't force picks. There are so many options along the front seven and offensive line that you're bound to find value somewhere, but I still wouldn't pass up a higher rated player for one.
 
I really think Jason Garrett could have changed the course of Robert Meachem's career, too. I hope Norv Turner and Phillip Rivers help Meachem reach his full potential, because Meachem has the talent to produce much more than he was ever allowed to do in New Orleans. I have no doubt that Romo to Meachem would have been special. Sometimes, players don't get drafted into the best situations, and I think Meachem is a prime example.

Meachem was drafted by the Saints, and the Saints were already talented and had some quality wide receivers. They were coming off the NFC Championship Game. Shawn Payton really didn't take the best approach with Meachem before his rookie year even started, and I think the Saints helped stunt his development right from the start. I don't think the Saints had the urgency to get Meachem ready to play during his rookie year, either. On the other hand, the Cowboys had major age at WR, and Terry Glenn was a non-factor in 2007.

I can't help but think about the 2007 Divisional Playoff Game. The Giants were playing with a bunch of scrubs in the secondary, and Dallas needed a big play from a WR at the end of that game. Owens had a bad wheel and drew coverage. Glenn was done. Witten was helping Colombo on Romo's last desperate pass into the end-zone. Crayton stopped running on what should have been the game winning TD and had a huge drop. Meachem's speed probably catches that ball. Meachem's deep speed and big play ability could have been the difference in that football game. At a minimum, Meachem has to be accounted for, and he puts pressure on the suspect Giants secondary.

Go back to December 2008. The infamous Roy Williams trade and contract occurs in October. However, Dallas still has major WR issues, and speed is a serious issue at WR, too. A big play by a fast WR could have won the Steelers or Ravens game, especially the Ravens game. Dallas had no deep threat to stretch the field vertically when the playoffs were on the line in December.

If the Cowboys would have used one first round pick on Robert Meachem, the Roy Williams fiasco could have been totally avoided. The Cowboys would have possessed Meachem and Austin in their arsenal. Instead, the Cowboys gave Williams a ridiculous contract, and his contract paved the way for Miles Austin to be way overpaid, too. The Cowboys gave away their 2009 first round pick and a 3rd round pick and a sixth round pick. The Lions ended up with Dallas' 7th round pick in 2010, too. Dallas ended up with a horrendous 2009 draft and Roy Williams and his mega contract.

Anyway, that is my opinion. I think drafting a young Dez Bryant was a big positive step in the right direction at the WR position. Depending solely on the Isaiah Stanbacks and Sam Hurds and Kevin Ogletrees of the world really isn't a prudent plan to develop players at WR. Hoping the next undrafted free agent turns into the next big thing isn't the best way to approach this position, either. You can try to develop those players, but you better have a two track plan. Those lower tiered players better not stop you from acquiring top talent at the position. You could say that about any position, too.
 
A pretty good look and comment in your OP...but it queried the direction of Draft Priorities.

Myself, I think that biggest influence to the team, would be in the form of a dominant and man-on-man guard that can be left on an island and excell as well, in drive blocking.

Mix that type player in with Nate Livings, as a double team/second level guard, and move Mackenzy Bernadeau on in at center...and this offense is geared for bear.

I therefore feel that David DeCastro is a major target for this draft. I'm feeling that there will be adequate defensive line, cornerback additions to be had in rounds 2-4...and they should be defense.
 
Flinger;4475295 said:
True - still, an interesting study and observation.

Of course they will never do this, but wouldn't it be fascinating if the Cowboys would publish their board publically after the draft? Just to see if they truly stick with their board or rationalize based on need or perceived value...

I have to agree with DFWJC's post.

I'm all for BPA as long as it's not QB, RB, and some other position we truly don't need. I would rather trade down at that point.

TE is not a true need since we have a HOF'er healthy on the roster...
 
Its not really the priority you set, it is how you draft. If you are drafting a bunch of scrubs it really doesnt matter what position they play.


Bottom line........we have to start doing a better job of drafting, we you have entire draft classes that are not on the team just a couple of years later, your drafting is a joke.


I am willing to give Garrett the benefit of the doubt and say he wasnt involved in the drafting process a couple of seasons ago (even though I think he was), and grade him starting last year going forward.

Last year we got Tyron Smith, so I am giving Garrett high marks so far. Lets hope he doesnt blow it this draft.
 
CCBoy;4475496 said:
A pretty good look and comment in your OP...but it queried the direction of Draft Priorities.

Myself, I think that biggest influence to the team, would be in the form of a dominant and man-on-man guard that can be left on an island and excell as well, in drive blocking.

Mix that type player in with Nate Livings, as a double team/second level guard, and move Mackenzy Bernadeau on in at center...and this offense is geared for bear.

I therefore feel that David DeCastro is a major target for this draft. I'm feeling that there will be adequate defensive line, cornerback additions to be had in rounds 2-4...and they should be defense.


If you noticed, I didn't say we should draft a receiver in the first round. I'm very much in the DeCastro @14 camp.

And I mentioned that receivers can be drafted late or even undrafted, but my point was that to get a good spread of depth over time, you need to focus on these areas more. The Giants won two super bowls because their wide receivers helped carry them. Romo on the other hand is having to help carry his receivers more often than not.
 
If the goal is to draft an immediate starter in the 1st round then the only 2 real options are either O-line or D-line.

An offensive skill player (WR, RB, TE) would not start opening day because we already have those positions set. Any early draft pick on offensive skill positions would be clearly for depth purposes. The tackle positions are also set, with depth (swing tackle) being the only thing really needed. Therefore, the only offensive position that would immediately start would be interior O-line (either guard position and center), with DeCastro being the consensus best interior O-lineman in the draft.

Now on the defense... 3-4 OLB pass rushers do not usually make an immediate opening day impact in the NFL. Odds are we would not find someone who would step in immediately and be a more complete player at the position than Spencer or as talented of a situational pass rusher at the position as Butler. There is also not likely a player in the draft who would immediately step in and be as competent a starting CB as Carr or Jenkins. Even at the Safety position, Pool and Sensebaugh are not great but they are legitimate NFL starters and it is not guaranteed even Barron from Alabama would come in and immediately take over a starting job if drafted. That leaves the D-line. If we did move Ratliff to DE, there isn't anybody on the current roster who would be a legitimate starter at NT, so obviously any NT drafted would immediately start. Or if Ratliff stayed at NT, it is likely that if a 3-4 DE was drafted that he would start over the DE opposite of Spears (either Hatcher or Coleman).

So, there you have it. The first round pick will go to the best lineman (offensive or defensive) available at #14.
 
We're pretty stacked at receiver and haven't had issues really so can't complain with our strategy. Ramses Barden 3rd round? Or Miles Austin undrafted?

I'll take the latter.
 
They need depth and team speed esp D. They need to draft DBs, OL, DL and pass rusher.
 
If we want to copy the Giants in any way, we need to look at their defensive line. Their DL is what got them their last two superbowls. Pressuring the QB will help us more than anything.
 

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