Draft QB Carson Wentz

[CATCH17]

New vid

 

[gimmesix]

Cleveland will. Thanks.

 

[CATCH17]

Cleveland will. Thanks.

Maybe not.

 

[gimmesix]

Maybe not.

Maybe, but if he's all that like so many believe he is, they will or someone will trade up to get him.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Maybe, but if he's all that like so many believe he is, they will or someone will trade up to get him.

Let's hope that happens. The hype for a guy that was viewed a 2nd round pick just 2 months ago is funny

 

[NEODOG]

71.9 completeion %{lead ncaa}
388 completions {lead ncaa}
97 td vs 19 int career

Would you draft him?

 

[casmith07]

Let's hope that happens. The hype for a guy that was viewed a 2nd round pick just 2 months ago is funny

It's mind boggling. Every year there's a player the media decides they're going to raise his draft stock.

 

[Daillest88]

Let's hope that happens. The hype for a guy that was viewed a 2nd round pick just 2 months ago is funny

That happens to Alot of players, Byron Jones wasn't vied as a first until his combine.

 

[CATCH17]

71.9 completeion %{lead ncaa}
388 completions {lead ncaa}
97 td vs 19 int career

Would you draft him?

I don't know. A lot of College teams are pass happy/spread offenses that have guys that don't belong in the NFL putting up incredible numbers.


It's about the traits you possess plus potential upside far more than college production.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Let's hope that happens. The hype for a guy that was viewed a 2nd round pick just 2 months ago is funny

He was viewed as a 2nd round draft guy by some internet draft guys and gurus...he was always viewed higher by team scouts.

Just like Aaron Donald last year.

Many scouts had him as a top end player...took the draft guys and "gurus" a little longer to catch on.

This is not a case of going to the combine and blowing it out of the water and improving draft stock a great deal like Poe did.

 

[texbumthelife]

Joe Flacco, Tony Romo and Steve MccNair rolled into one? Jeebus, I dare say this is the most out of control hype train I have ever seen.

 

[texbumthelife]

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It's about the traits you possess plus potential upside far more than college production.

Sounds exactly like the Cowboys mindset for the middle rounds of the draft. That's worked out exceptionally well...

 

[tyke1doe]

That happens to Alot of players, Byron Jones wasn't vied as a first until his combine.

He wasn't even listed as a draft prospect in one of the draft preview books I bought last year.

 

[gimmesix]

71.9 completeion %{lead ncaa}
388 completions {lead ncaa}
97 td vs 19 int career

Would you draft him?

I don't know. It really depends on the player.

There have been first-round QBs taken with great college numbers who have been NFL busts.

JaMarcus Russell improved each of his three years, topping out with a 67.8 completion percentage as a 3,000-yard passer with 28 TDs and 8 ints.

 

[texbumthelife]

I don't know. It really depends on the player.

There have been first-round QBs taken with great college numbers who have been NFL busts.

It's so easy to make this qualification both ways though. Plenty of guys have been taken as projections and never done squat.

 

[LandryFan]

It's mind boggling. Every year there's a player the media decides they're going to raise his draft stock.

Indeed. Three or four years worth of game tape goes by the wayside in favor of one "all star" game, one underwear Olympics, and one scripted pro day.

 

[gimmesix]

It's so easy to make this qualification both ways though. Plenty of guys have been taken as projections and never done squat.

I agree. That's why the draft process is so difficult. So much depends on players' ability to adapt to the next level of play, and some are simply incapable of doing it. Figuring that out is the toughest job for scouts because you can get a guy who has all the numbers and he can fail or a guy who has all the physical talent and he can fail. Or you can get a guy who doesn't have either and he can outplay every measurable there is.

I prefer the safer route in the early rounds: choosing players who have proven production against top-caliber competition, then using the later rounds to go after those high-production smaller-school players or physical freaks (who usually don't last that long because someone falls in love with their potential tools.).

 

[texbumthelife]

I agree. That's why the draft process is so difficult. So much depends on players' ability to adapt to the next level of play, and some are simply incapable of doing it. Figuring that out is the toughest job for scouts because you can get a guy who has all the numbers and he can fail or a guy who has all the physical talent and he can fail. Or you can get a guy who doesn't have either and he can outplay every measurable there is.

I prefer the safer route in the early rounds: choosing players who have proven production against top-caliber competition, then using the later rounds to go after those high-production smaller-school players or physical freaks (who usually don't last that long because someone falls in love with their potential tools.).

Agreed on all points, sir.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

That happens to Alot of players, Byron Jones wasn't vied as a first until his combine.

Thought Jones was drafted late 20s not at number 1 or 2 overall. Huge difference

 

[AzorAhai]

71.9 completeion %{lead ncaa}
388 completions {lead ncaa}
97 td vs 19 int career

Would you draft him?

No, I have no interest in Brandon Doughty. You could at least get his stats right if you are using stats alone to justify picking a player. Its 111 Tds vs 34 Ints.

This game is easy. Would you draft this guy?

70. 4 career completion percentage
371 completions per year
131 Tds vs 42 Ints

Or what about this guy

Senior year

74.3 completion percentage
326 completions
142 Tds vs 28 Ints in his career