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[Nav22]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...fense-run-game-led-to-brees-troubles-in-2012/

Drew Brees threw 19 INTs in 2012. The Saints went 7-9.

Here's Sean Payton on Brees' 2012 season:

"When you tell me a team is last in the league in defense and last in the running game (25th in yards per game), I'm telling you the quarterback's job description is entirely different," Payton said. "I'm telling you he's having to play and press and try to do certain things that his counterpart may not have to do based on the way that team is running the ball or playing defense. That's the first thing that I saw. You get one-dimensional, you find yourself in these games where you're not controlling the game."


If you know football, this quote will do nothing for you.

But there's a ton of posters here that should study this quote like it's the Bible.

 

[DFWJC]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...fense-run-game-led-to-brees-troubles-in-2012/

Drew Brees threw 19 INTs in 2012. The Saints went 7-9.

Here's Sean Payton on Brees' 2012 season:

"When you tell me a team is last in the league in defense and last in the running game (25th in yards per game), I'm telling you the quarterback's job description is entirely different," Payton said. "I'm telling you he's having to play and press and try to do certain things that his counterpart may not have to do based on the way that team is running the ball or playing defense. That's the first thing that I saw. You get one-dimensional, you find yourself in these games where you're not controlling the game."


If you know football, this quote will do nothing for you.

But there's a ton of posters here that should study this quote like it's the Bible.

Exactly.

 

[CyberB0b]

Romo's skillset allows us to go cheap on the offensive line. Didn't you get the memo?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Other than a couple of people here, I don't seem to see many that think the season was Romo being a knucklehead.

But that statement does not absolve the last pick he threw. He sometimes presses to the point he needs to calm down. That has been a problem for him throughout his career.

Doesn't take away from his skills.

But it also doesn't make him the Superman some here like to proffer.

 

[Idgit]

Neat. Obvious, but a good reinforcement, nonetheless.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

But that statement does not absolve the last pick he threw. He sometimes presses to the point he needs to calm down. That has been a problem for him throughout his career.

No, it hasn't and I get tired of hearing people who are supposed to be fans acting like uninformed national media. If anything Romo is a bit too detached for my liking. Every time you ask people to give examples they get real quiet unless they're talking about bobbled snaps. Romo does not press or need to calm down more or less than any other quarterback. Stop making up stuff.

 

[popp1234]

Other than a couple of people here, I don't seem to see many that think the season was Romo being a knucklehead.

But that statement does not absolve the last pick he threw. He sometimes presses to the point he needs to calm down. That has been a problem for him throughout his career.

Doesn't take away from his skills.

But it also doesn't make him the Superman some here like to proffer.

I use to be a HUGE Romo fan, now I see him for what he is, a good QB that has put up huge numbers, but is equally proned to giving away games due to his boneheaded mistakes during crunch time. I jumped off his boat a while back, athough I still wish him success, not only for the Cowboys, but him as an individual, I have very little hope he will take us to a SB (insert but he diesnt have any help excuse). Having said that, he is not our future and I wouldn't be too dissapointed if he left. Now, here comes the "be careful what you wish for crowd".....

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I use to be a HUGE Romo fan, now I see him for what he is, a very good QB that post huge numbers, but is equally proned to giving away games due to his boneheaded mistakes during crunch time.

Romo has played in around 120 NFL games... name five boneheaded mistakes he's made during "crunch time" where he legitimately gave the game away. You get the Washington game for free, even though only people who don't know anything about football see that as anything other than a good play by the defense. Name five.

 

[RGKN33]

Romo has played in around 120 NFL games... name five boneheaded mistakes he's made during "crunch time" where he legitimately gave the game away. You get the Washington game for free, even though only people who don't know anything about football see that as anything other than a good play by the defense. Name five.

I can name four alone from the Detroit game a couple years ago .

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I can name four alone from the Detroit game a couple years ago .

First of all, no you can't. Second of all, since when are out of conference, early season games "crunch time" now? Oh, I forgot Rule #1 for Romo haters: it's only a big game when they lose.

 

[Nav22]

I can name four alone from the Detroit game a couple years ago .

Welcome to the thread. The OP was meant for people like you. Read it as many times as you can.

 

[dstone2962]

First of all, no you can't. Second of all, since when are out of conference, early season games "crunch time" now? Oh, I forgot Rule #1 for Romo haters: it's only a big game when they lose.

Every game is significant when there are 16. It's not basketball.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Every game is significant when there are 16. It's not basketball.

Uh, you're not following the Romo hater handbook correctly. Only playoff games and made up "win or go home" games are supposed to count. If you actually start considering regular season games as meaningful then you literally have no case against Romo.

Romo haters have been bellyaching for years about "big games"... where are all these big games he's thrown away with crunch time mistakes?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Romo has played in around 120 NFL games... name five boneheaded mistakes he's made during "crunch time" where he legitimately gave the game away. You get the Washington game for free, even though only people who don't know anything about football see that as anything other than a good play by the defense. Name five.

Jets 2011
Pats 2011 - these two games were mirror images of the same interception.
Detroit 2011 - Yes, that is Bobby carpenter in front of your receiver - same as Pitt and jets. Hey there is Bobby Carpenter in front of your receiver again.
Pittsburgh 2007
Washington 2012 and don't tell me about a good play by the defense since Romo could not see the receiver from where he stood. He tossed the ball into traffic without any verification. I do watch the games and I'm sorry you disagree, but you are flat wrong about his getting amped up and making mistakes

Romo rolls to the right and he loses the defenders for some reason. Lots of good plays but some real stinkers as well. Because he ignored the defender.

You are just like every other Romo fan that wears his underoos. You set the criteria for what is a gaff on his part, then take them away with your excuses.

 

[Hoofbite]

Honestly, I think his quote is far more applicable to Dallas (particularly late in the year) than it is New Orleans. If Brees' 5000 yards and 43 TDs somehow came in the face of a more difficult task on his part, I'd hate to see what he could do if he had it easy.

It's not that they couldn't run, it's that they were in shoot outs every single week and needed Brees to lead the league in passing just to keep them in the game. Their yards per carry is right on par with the league average.

They might be the only team ever to give up 7000 yards of offense. Any sort of defensive help at all and they would have been a much better team.

Dallas absolutely couldn't run and I think a 2nd to last rushing average is a testament to that. So looking at the two aspects, I think it's a more fitting comment for Dallas and in particular the 2nd half of the season.

Then again, even with respectable defensive play early in the year prior to all the injuries, the offense wasn't exactly banging on all cylinders.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Jets 2011
Pats 2011 - these two games were mirror images of the same interception.
Detroit 2011 - Yes, that is Bobby carpenter in front of your receiver - same as Pitt and jets. Hey there is Bobby Carpenter in front of your receiver again.
Pittsburg 2007
Washington 2012 and don't tell me about a good play by the defense since Romo could not see the receiver from where he stood. He tossed the ball into traffic without any verification. I do watch the games and I'm sorry you disagree, but you are flat wrong about his getting amped up and making mistakes

Romo rolls to the right and he loses the defenders for some reason. Lots of good plays but some real stinkers as well. Because he ignored the defender.

You are just like every other Romo fan that wears his underoos. You set the criteria for what is a gaff on his part, then take them away with your excuses.

This list is a joke... five regular season games, four of them not even division games. Suddenly another Romo hater wants to turn every regular season game into a big game, after years of downplaying Romo's performance in these same games. Simple-simon analysis, as if every time an interception is thrown it's a mistake, or even the quarterback's fault. You obviously didn't watch the games, since Carpenter only had one interception (the other returned for a TD was Chris Houston, on a play where Robinson did not run his route/face the receiver). Your analysis is a joke, since you don't know anything about football ...so trust me your opinion matters zilch to me. You're just another Romo hater with Romo hater underoos.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

This list is a joke... five regular season games, four of them not even division games. Suddenly another Romo hater wants to turn every regular season game into a big game, after years of downplaying Romo's performance in these same games. Simple-simon analysis, as if every time an interception is thrown it's a mistake, or even the quarterback's fault. You obviously didn't watch the games, since Carpenter only had one interception (the other returned for a TD was Chris Houston, on a play where Robinson did not run his route/face the receiver). Your analysis is a joke, since you don't know anything about football ...so trust me your opinion matters zilch to me. You're just another Romo hater with Romo hater underoos.

lol, now I know why TwoDeep is on my ignore.

 

[Idgit]

The PIT game in 2008 and the WAS game this season are the first two games I think of when I think of games he outright blew. Honorable mention for the BUF game where he had 5 picks and tried his damnedest but we won anyway.

That said, the same, and more, can be said about any QB with enough starts. Tony's a very, very good player, and his 'chokes' are massively overblown where the issue for a long time has mostly been a defense that can't take the ball away or come up with a stop when they have to have one.

 

[Noone]

Romo has played in around 120 NFL games... name five boneheaded mistakes he's made during "crunch time" where he legitimately gave the game away. You get the Washington game for free, even though only people who don't know anything about football see that as anything other than a good play by the defense. Name five.

2006 Playoffs vs Seattle....when Romo botched the hold on the field goal to win the game in Parcells' last game ever.

2007 playoffs vs Giants....forced interception in the endzone at the end of the game when we went in as #1 seed.

There's two easy ones.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jets 2011
Pats 2011 - these two games were mirror images of the same interception.
Detroit 2011 - Yes, that is Bobby carpenter in front of your receiver - same as Pitt and jets. Hey there is Bobby Carpenter in front of your receiver again.
Pittsburgh 2007
Washington 2012 and don't tell me about a good play by the defense since Romo could not see the receiver from where he stood. He tossed the ball into traffic without any verification. I do watch the games and I'm sorry you disagree, but you are flat wrong about his getting amped up and making mistakes

Romo rolls to the right and he loses the defenders for some reason Lots of good plays but some real stinkers as well. Because he ignored the defender.

You are just like every other Romo fan that wears his underoos. You set the criteria for what is a gaff on his part, then take them away with your excuses.

You could have just said that Romo will not see LBer running under routes. The best illustration of that isn't even listed above. That would be the 2005 Buffalo game where he kept on doing it time and again.

I guess you won't include that one because he overcame those difficulties to win the game. Confirmation bias is fun on your part I take it.