Drew Brees Makes Sense

[Hiero]

Would be a great backup for Bledsoe. Doubt we'll pay that much for a backup QB though.


Brees would be a backup for Bledsoe? Are ya joking?

are you? have you really ever diagnosed brees or did you just look at his stats? If Bledsoe had lt gates mccardell and that defense around him he'd do much better. Brees is like a short weak armed version of Bledsoe. he makes the same mistakes, he just has gates and lt to cover up for him, and definitely isnt or never will be better.

 

[Jarv]

are you? have you really ever diagnosed brees or did you just look at his stats? If Bledsoe had lt gates mccardell and that defense around him he'd do much better. Brees is like a short weak armed version of Bledsoe. he makes the same mistakes, he just has gates and lt to cover up for him, and definitely isnt or never will be better.

I don't know about that, I hear he can take a snap without fumbling it.

 

[theogt]

are you? have you really ever diagnosed brees or did you just look at his stats? If Bledsoe had lt gates mccardell and that defense around him he'd do much better. Brees is like a short weak armed version of Bledsoe. he makes the same mistakes, he just has gates and lt to cover up for him, and definitely isnt or never will be better.

Defense?

 

[joseephuss]

are you? have you really ever diagnosed brees or did you just look at his stats? If Bledsoe had lt gates mccardell and that defense around him he'd do much better. Brees is like a short weak armed version of Bledsoe. he makes the same mistakes, he just has gates and lt to cover up for him, and definitely isnt or never will be better.

McCardell? Do you think he is better than Glenn and Johnson? He is older and that is pretty much it. No slouch, but he isn't making Brees look good.

Dallas has a better defense than San Diego.

Gates is in another league compared to Witten, but Witten is no bum. He does make Brees look good.

Dallas has no one comparable to LT and San Diego has a good o-line. The o-line matters more than McCardell.

Brees has some deficiencies and he is a good QB. Should Dallas go after him? I am leaning no at this time. I don't think it would be huge mistake, but if the Cowboys go after a QB, I want one that is going to be very good. Who would that be?

 

[Hiero]

McCardell? Do you think he is better than Glenn and Johnson? He is older and that is pretty much it. No slouch, but he isn't making Brees look good.

Dallas has a better defense than San Diego.

Gates is in another league compared to Witten, but Witten is no bum. He does make Brees look good.

Dallas has no one comparable to LT and San Diego has a good o-line. The o-line matters more than McCardell.

Brees has some deficiencies and he is a good QB. Should Dallas go after him? I am leaning no at this time. I don't think it would be huge mistake, but if the Cowboys go after a QB, I want one that is going to be very good. Who would that be?

san diego has one of the best front 7's in the game. their run defense finished #1 or close to it. Gates is a bigger playmaker than Witten and one of the few(or the one) who is actually better. LT carried that team, they put 8 in the box all the time. we had JJ who was gone most of the year, Bledsoe didnt really have any running attack to help him out. Our D is good, but SD is one year ahead of us, and theyhave already taken care of all their 3-4 front 7 needs for a LONG time. cowboys still have a couple to address. Plus Brees is going to want a lot more than Bledsoe. Maybe it is just because i am biased watching him for the years before Gates showed up and he magically "got it" but I really do not like the guy as an NFL QB.

 

[theogt]

san diego has one of the best front 7's in the game. their run defense finished #1 or close to it. Gates is a bigger playmaker than Witten and one of the few(or the one) who is actually better. LT carried that team, they put 8 in the box all the time. we had JJ who was gone most of the year, Bledsoe didnt really have any running attack to help him out. Our D is good, but SD is one year ahead of us, and theyhave already taken care of all their 3-4 front 7 needs for a LONG time. cowboys still have a couple to address. Plus Brees is going to want a lot more than Bledsoe. Maybe it is just because i am biased watching him for the years before Gates showed up and he magically "got it" but I really do not like the guy as an NFL QB.

What good is being first in run defense when you're 28 in pass defense? We have a more rounded defense. This is not really debatable.

 

[Sitting Bull]

AND...signing Brees would give Romo someone to push around in the locker room...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I really really dislike Brees. I've seen him since he came out, and before the last year, I was screaming for them to dump him. Now that he got Gates to bail him out and LT to carry the load his stats are doing better. He has progressed, but I just do not like him at all. He is too short, and constantly has to do a jump throw i really hate, or a bootleg or whatever to create passing lanes for this midget. Plus before gates got there, he would always blow chargers games late in the game, like throw a key pick near the end or whatever. Plus his arm strength is garbage, and he just hurt his shoulder badly. and he will want a lot. zero interest in this guy.

LOL!!!!!!!!

This post is too funny.

Before last year you suggest that he should be dumped but before last year, he posted a 104.8 QB rating. He threw for over 3000 yards and 27 TDs against 7 INTs. His Comp% was like 65 percent. This guy has put together two very good seasons IMO. I too have watched Brees since his days at Purdue and think he's done a fine job of developing while in the NFL. I don't know how you could say that before Gates got there, he sucked. Gates has been in San Diego for 3 full seasons now. In 2001, Brees started exactly 0 games in the NFL. In 2002, really his first season in the NFL, he started 16 games. He again threw for over 3000 yards, completed 60% of his passes, had a positive TD to INT ration of 17/16 and a QB rating of 76.9. What do you expect from a guy who is basically in his first season as a starter?

 

[StateCollegeCowboy]

I hope Drew Brees makes a full recovery... but here is an interesting article about the "torn labrum" injury and how it affects pitchers. I hope it doesn't affect Drew the same way.

http://www.slate.com/id/2100895/

 

[Hiero]

LOL!!!!!!!!

This post is too funny.

Before last year you suggest that he should be dumped but before last year, he posted a 104.8 QB rating. He threw for over 3000 yards and 27 TDs against 7 INTs. His Comp% was like 65 percent. This guy has put together two very good seasons IMO. I too have watched Brees since his days at Purdue and think he's done a fine job of developing while in the NFL. I don't know how you could say that before Gates got there, he sucked. Gates has been in San Diego for 3 full seasons now. In 2001, Brees started exactly 0 games in the NFL. In 2002, really his first season in the NFL, he started 16 games. He again threw for over 3000 yards, completed 60% of his passes, had a positive TD to INT ration of 17/16 and a QB rating of 76.9. What do you expect from a guy who is basically in his first season as a starter?

you are confused, those are 2004 stats. in 2003 i and everyone in the nfl including teh chargers were ready to give up on him. If you had seen that year you'd know why i dislike him. Not that he is completely worthless. but bringing in a guy that personally i dont even think hes that great of a qb. for a lot more than Bledsoe is making, and he isnt even better than Bledsoe and never will be. He had a 67.5 rating in 2003. he has improved but i still see him making a lot of the same mistakes. He still can't see over the oline half the time, he still throws stupid int's and he still doesnt ever do enough to carry his team to victory. If we didnt have Bledsoe, I would be a lot more open to him, but I think Bledsoe is a lot better. if he somehow signed him, unless we fire our coach and cut Bledsoe, he wouldnt start for at least 2 more years.

 

[conner01]

one catch, the chargers hold all the cards on him. they will either sign him or franchise him. no way they let him go unless they feel the shoulder is a long term problem and then you would'nt want him.they will not just let him walk

 

[Qwickdraw]

This is one of the only QB ideas that I actually would go along with.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

you are confused, those are 2004 stats. in 2003 i and everyone in the nfl including teh chargers were ready to give up on him. If you had seen that year you'd know why i dislike him. Not that he is completely worthless. but bringing in a guy that personally i dont even think hes that great of a qb. for a lot more than Bledsoe is making, and he isnt even better than Bledsoe and never will be. He had a 67.5 rating in 2003. he has improved but i still see him making a lot of the same mistakes. He still can't see over the oline half the time, he still throws stupid int's and he still doesnt ever do enough to carry his team to victory. If we didnt have Bledsoe, I would be a lot more open to him, but I think Bledsoe is a lot better. if he somehow signed him, unless we fire our coach and cut Bledsoe, he wouldnt start for at least 2 more years.

No, I'm not confused. The facts are that he has put together two pretty decent seasons. I can believe you were ready to give up on him in what was basically his 2nd season starting but clearly you and everybody else was wrong. I watched Brees play. This is not a revolation to me. Young QBs make mistakes. That's how it's been since forever. We will never be able to sign him but if we did, he would be the starter. He is much better then Bledsoe at this stage of his career, IMO. All I'm saying is that he is a good QB. He's better then anybody we have in Dallas right now. That is the truth of the matter IMO.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

To me, it's simple. You do what is necessary to acquire the best QB you can because it is the most important position on your team. You don't settle when it comes to QB. That means you don't sign ex-baseball players, old veterans, and recently injured players from other teams whose career could be permanently damaged.

If I'm Jerry Jones, I trade 2 first round picks and a second round pick to acquire the rights to Matt Lienart. QB's like Lienart are rare. They only come around every 5 years or so. I think Lienart is better than Carson Palmer was in college. He is extremely intelligent and accurate. If you want to do this right then you don't settle.

 

[Kilyin]

Would be a great backup for Bledsoe. Doubt we'll pay that much for a backup QB though.


Brees would be a backup for Bledsoe? Are ya joking?

No, he's just a Bledsoe groupie. Him and big_neil both have authentic Bledsoe pajamas and they wear them with pride.

 

[Hiero]

No, I'm not confused. The facts are that he has put together two pretty decent seasons. I can believe you were ready to give up on him in what was basically his 2nd season starting but clearly you and everybody else was wrong. I watched Brees play. This is not a revolation to me. Young QBs make mistakes. That's how it's been since forever. We will never be able to sign him but if we did, he would be the starter. He is much better then Bledsoe at this stage of his career, IMO. All I'm saying is that he is a good QB. He's better then anybody we have in Dallas right now. That is the truth of the matter IMO.

Still don't think he's better than Bledsoe. Certainly isn't worth paying a bunch of money for. he's progressed but what would he do without gates and lt to always bail him out?

 

[TheHustler]

Still don't think he's better than Bledsoe. Certainly isn't worth paying a bunch of money for. he's progressed but what would he do without gates and lt to always bail him out?

Probably the same thing Bledsoe did without Larry Centers, Jay Remiersma and Peerless Price in Buffalo.

QB's need weapons, period.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

To me, it's simple. You do what is necessary to acquire the best QB you can because it is the most important position on your team. You don't settle when it comes to QB. That means you don't sign ex-baseball players, old veterans, and recently injured players from other teams whose career could be permanently damaged.

If I'm Jerry Jones, I trade 2 first round picks and a second round pick to acquire the rights to Matt Lienart. QB's like Lienart are rare. They only come around every 5 years or so. I think Lienart is better than Carson Palmer was in college. He is extremely intelligent and accurate. If you want to do this right then you don't settle.

This I do not agree with at all James. Don't fool yourself with Lienart. He is no Carson Palmer. Palmer is the QB your describing above, IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Still don't think he's better than Bledsoe. Certainly isn't worth paying a bunch of money for. he's progressed but what would he do without gates and lt to always bail him out?

The same can be said about Bledsoe. What would he do with out Witten or Glenn or whomever? What can he do without a very talented OL? The thing you should be asking yourself is what can he do if we put him in an offense with Witten and our RBs and our WRs? He definatly has more mobility and can create a little bit. He's also much younger.

 

[Hiero]

Probably the same thing Bledsoe did without Larry Centers, Jay Remiersma and Peerless Price in Buffalo.

QB's need weapons, period.

I know that, but can you really compare those guys to two guys who are probably the best at their respective positions? LT best RB Gates best TE. I don't see anything special about Brees except that he's a few years younger than Bledsoe. Bledsoe still has the way better arm though. I dont really think that's worth a huge contract and cutting a vet.