Drew Doubter or Bledsoe Backer?

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big_neil said:
So you'll be a fan when he doesn't need your support anymore, once he's proven "safe" to root for. You are the ultimate fair-weather fan.


While you may need "support" to perform basic life functions, I seriously doubt that my "support" will have any bearing on Bledsoe's job performance.

Of course it would be hard for you to do almost anything with your chin permanently affixed to one player's nether regions.
 

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Dogstar said:
We have the number one rated QB in the NFC. He leads the pro bowl voting, and you still bash?

Get over yourselves. You are wrong!


Who exactly has bashed Bledsoe?

Big difference between doubting and bashing.
 

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I'm a 'O' line backer because if they are not on their game you can forget Drew. He has no improvisational skills and even simple side steps and stepping up in the pocket are hard for him to comprehend. In addition, buying time in the pocket is not his specialty or part time hobby even. Drew is slow delivery wise and is brutal in short drops with his slow wind up.

Saying this, when all is said and done, Drew has managed to give us a pretty respectable passing game. When all of the stars are aligned and perfect, he will get the ball to anyone, anywhere on the field and in stride.

Backer or Doubter? I will back Drew to the highest along with the 'O' line. The 'O' line has to be up to the task for Drew to have a good performance and continue to instill confidence from us, the fans. Fortunately for us, the 'O' line was up to the task for two series in the Philly game and look what happened on both of those drives.

I vote Drew and 'O' line.
 

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Dogstar said:
We have the number one rated QB in the NFC. He leads the pro bowl voting, and you still bash?

Get over yourselves. You are wrong!

Unreal isn't it?? Some people are just blinded by the mediocre to BAD qb play here the last 4 years to really see what we have in Drew Bledsoe...

I suspect even after a Super Bowl win there will be some who will be in denial and cannot give Bledsoe his proper dues....

THANKFULLY, a lot of us can see the truth!!!
 

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KingTuna said:
Unreal isn't it?? Some people are just blinded by the mediocre to BAD qb play here the last 4 years to really see what we have in Drew Bledsoe...

I suspect even after a Super Bowl win there will be some who will be in denial and cannot give Bledsoe his proper dues....

THANKFULLY, a lot of us can see the truth!!!

It is a bit funny, any other QB put up the numbers Drew has most fans would think that QB is doing a fantastic job. Then to see that Drew and the Cowboys must win the Super Bowl before some will acknowledge the job he has done so far? that is pretty pathetic and a standard that is completely unfair.
 

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I would venture to say, that if we graded out each position on our current Cowboys team for the 2005 season, Bledsoe would grade out at somewhere near the top 5% or so.

People who doubt Bledsoe do so because they did before he got here I would guess.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
It is a bit funny, any other QB put up the numbers Drew has most fans would think that QB is doing a fantastic job. Then to see that Drew and the Cowboys must win the Super Bowl before some will acknowledge the job he has done so far? that is pretty pathetic and a standard that is completely unfair.


Hey, if recent Philadelphia or Pittsburgh like seasons is ok with you then fine, always the bridesmaid never the bride, but some of us gauge things by winning it all.

There's a reason that Danny White isn't in the ROH or HOF.


Bledsoe throughout his career has shown the ability to put up huge numbers at times but never the ability to ultimately succeed.

Using a golf analogy, wouldn't any rational person doubt the chances of a career journeyman on the last Sunday of a major if he was tied with Tiger Woods?
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
Hey, if recent Philadelphia or Pittsburgh like seasons is ok with you then fine, always the bridesmaid never the bride, but some of us gauge things by winning it all.

There's a reason that Danny White isn't in the ROH or HOF.


Bledsoe throughout his career has shown the ability to put up huge numbers at times but never the ability to ultimately succeed.

Using a golf analogy, wouldn't any rational person doubt the chances of a career journeyman on the last Sunday of a major if he was tied with Tiger Woods?

I want a SB as much as anyone but Philly and Pitt did not go 6-10 last year and neither of those teams have had to make the changes Dallas did. All this is taking place in less than a 1 year span and now it is SB or Bust? Get real
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I want a SB as much as anyone but Philly and Pitt did not go 6-10 last year and neither of those teams have had to make the changes Dallas did. All this is taking place in less than a 1 year span and now it is SB or Bust? Get real


I don't recall ever saying that it had to be this year, but yes in the end it is Super Bowl or Bust for Bledsoe and the Cowboys. Whether some people want to admit it or not, the window is starting to close on Bledsoe. If he doesn't win one in the next 2-3 years, he never will.
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
I don't recall ever saying that it had to be this year, but yes in the end it is Super Bowl or Bust for Bledsoe and the Cowboys. Whether some people want to admit it or not, the window is starting to close on Bledsoe. If he doesn't win one in the next 2-3 years, he never will.

Within the next 2 to 3 years yes I agree I was referring to this year not down the road. I was talking about this year team and Bledsoe play and those who continue to knock the guy and fact is many of those who were predicting doom and gloom for this season. We sign Bledsoe all of a sudden the 6-10 crowd starts boo hooing all over the place well fact is this team and Bledsoe are showing themselves as more than some 6-10 team
 

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I agree that Bledsoe makes this team better this year, but at what cost? I'm not totally enamored with Parcells but he is a quality coach so if having Bledsoe this year keeps him around longer, it's probably worth it, but there were options that I think would have been better for the long term prospects of winning the Super Bowl again.
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
I agree that Bledsoe makes this team better this year, but at what cost? I'm not totally enamored with Parcells but he is a quality coach so if having Bledsoe this year keeps him around longer, it's probably worth it, but there were options that I think would have been better for the long term prospects of winning the Super Bowl again.

There are always other options this is the one we took and after too many years of losing I'm glad this is the road we took, it does allow the younger guys to learn and it gives the staff a longer look at our 2 young QB's to determine if they can take over or if we have to look to the draft for a QB. As for Parcells I think he knows full well what he is doing and this team now and in the future will be better because of him.
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
Hey, if recent Philadelphia or Pittsburgh like seasons is ok with you then fine, always the bridesmaid never the bride, but some of us gauge things by winning it all.

There's a reason that Danny White isn't in the ROH or HOF.


Bledsoe throughout his career has shown the ability to put up huge numbers at times but never the ability to ultimately succeed.

Using a golf analogy, wouldn't any rational person doubt the chances of a career journeyman on the last Sunday of a major if he was tied with Tiger Woods?

I look at it the same way just because Bledsoe is atop the NFC in ratings means nothing come playoff time just look at Peyton to realize numbers do not make you a championship caliber QB you can ask Aikman about that. With that said I am willing to give Bledsoe the benefit of the dought but I am by no means sold on him to take us to the promise land which all dallas QB"s should be measured by.
 

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Within the next 2 to 3 years yes I agree I was referring to this year not down the road. I was talking about this year team and Bledsoe play and those who continue to knock the guy and fact is many of those who were predicting doom and gloom for this season. We sign Bledsoe all of a sudden the 6-10 crowd starts boo hooing all over the place well fact is this team and Bledsoe are showing themselves as more than some 6-10 team

I am enjoying this season as much as anybody but at the end of the day I want the team to win a championship and in my opinion Bledsoe has looked to shaky when the pressure has been the highest, IE throwing passes at receivers feet at the end of the Commanders game, looking skittish against the giants at home, the INT against the seahawks and not looking comfortable the whole game and I was not impressed with him for 55 minutes of the monday night game. With that said he showed me something with the scoring drive at the end but I would like to see a little more of that before I start praising him.
 

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the numbers don't lie. Bledsoe's on pace to throw for 4000 yards... has a 2-to-1 TD/INT ratio... 98.6 QB rating (4th best in league)... 65% completions... and 8.27 YPA (NFL 3rd best - 2nd if you toss out Steeler's sophomore bus-driver Big Ben who has half as many attempts as Drew). these stats, in combination, DO NOT bring to mind the term "bus driver".

now he could start caving in next Sunday... but i sure wouldn't bet on it. and when Crayton returns Dallas will be pretty flush with targets for Drew.

before the season started i'd have settled for "pleasantly surprised" from DB. but so far - i'm pretty amazed.

he's been way more than i'd hoped for.
 

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JIGGYFLY said:
I am enjoying this season as much as anybody but at the end of the day I want the team to win a championship and in my opinion Bledsoe has looked to shaky when the pressure has been the highest, IE throwing passes at receivers feet at the end of the Commanders game, looking skittish against the giants at home, the INT against the seahawks and not looking comfortable the whole game and I was not impressed with him for 55 minutes of the monday night game. With that said he showed me something with the scoring drive at the end but I would like to see a little more of that before I start praising him.

Well then you could say the same about every QB in the NFL, my god the man's number are as good as anyone and these other QB make the same mistakes when under pressure that is why teams try to put pressure on the QB that is why Dallas tries to put pressure on the other QB's we play because it can force them into mistakes. Bledsoe is no different. Has he had bad games sure but evidently not that bad or else he would not be ranking at the top and Dallas would not be 6-3
 

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I look at QB's to see how they perform under pressure because once the playoffs start your QB has got to make plays while under duress (sp) and in my opinion drew has not done that. You keep talking about numbers but numbers do not bring you the rings look at manning, marino, kelley, or fouts to see this.
 

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JIGGYFLY said:
I look at it the same way just because Bledsoe is atop the NFC in ratings means nothing come playoff time just look at Peyton to realize numbers do not make you a championship caliber QB you can ask Aikman about that.

Dan Marino is considered one of the best QB's all time and never won the super bowl. I would consider Peyton to be a "Championship Caliber" QB right now. The truth is the QB can't do it alone. That position is certainly the most critical but this is still a team sport.
 

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JIGGYFLY said:
I look at QB's to see how they perform under pressure because once the playoffs start your QB has got to make plays while under duress (sp) and in my opinion drew has not done that. You keep talking about numbers but numbers do not bring you the rings look at manning, marino, kelley, or fouts to see this.

Rings happen because of the total team both offense and defense go in and get the job done. Manning,Marino and Fouts can only do their part they can't do everyone else's job. I have seen Fouts go out throw for a couple of TD and well over 300 yards yet his team lost what else can you expect from the QB? he did his job and the same could be said for these other guys. Winning a SB does not make one a great QB it makes you a great team, I'm sorry but Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer are no where close to the talent of the QB you mentioned yet they have a ring because they played on teams that won the SB
 

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MTRS-Jon said:
Dan Marino is considered one of the best QB's all time and never won the super bowl. I would consider Peyton to be a "Championship Caliber" QB right now. The truth is the QB can't do it alone. That position is certainly the most critical but this is still a team sport.

You make my point for me I do not think this team is good enough to win without stellar play from the QB position and in IMO Bledsoe has not shown me that except for the end of the Philly game so my hopes are still there but the jury is still out.
 
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