Duke Manyweather on Tyler Guyton

[Coogiguy03]

Guyton will peak.....in yr 4
Contract option year

Someone knows what they're talking about lol, WHY does this always happen that players somehow GET IT in their contract year???? ($$$$$$$$)

 

[big dog cowboy]

But it also looks like he shouldnt have been drafted in the first 32 picks.

He probably shouldn't have been but the Cowboys wanted a OT to replace Tyron and he was the top name.

 

[big dog cowboy]

you don't understand?

I understand perfectly.

You have no idea what facepalm means or how it applies.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I understand perfectly.

You have no idea what facepalm means or how it applies.

You questioned me about it for months as if it's algebra or something lol, a 2nd grader knows what that means, you find joy in assuming that I don't know!

 

[Pass2Run]

But what happens if Steele your best tackle ?

Like I said, Guyton would be our swing...

At this point, it's sunken cost fallacy to leave him at LT.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Like I said, Guyton would be our swing...

At this point, it's sunken cost fallacy to leave him at LT.

might not be a bad idea make him our swing

 

[RS12]

Lets start at the top:

1) Duke's business is at the Star.

2) Duke trained him last summer and got him to the point he was competitive in the open vs Garrett.

3) Duke trains many of the top NFL and NCAA OL at their craft. Guys like Zack Martin, Andrew Whitworth Lane Johnson and they swear by him'

4) I never heard him say anything like this about anybody he was asked about before.

5) Guyton begged out of games last year multiple times and they didn't bother trotting him out there vs Watt

6) Those of you that are trying to put a positive spin on this make laugh.

 

[Pass2Run]

Tyler Smith was a tackle that was switched to guard. OL switches at the NFL level are pretty standard because in college the best offensive lineman generally plays LT (or blindside tackle) just because they are the most talented the school has available not because LT is necessarily their best position.

Yeah, but Tyler Smith is good at LT and LG. Switching from RT to LT is more difficult.

LT is the most difficult position to play, and Guyton was at RT, which is generally much easier.

 

[Pass2Run]

might not be a bad idea make him our swing

My point is that developing a LT on the job isn't a wise move when your QB cost 60 million a season.

It's rather stupid, especially when he's stinking up the field.

 

[Ranching]

Andy Reid coached one year as offensive line coach at Northern Arizona. Anyone coaching at Redwoods has 1000 times the knowledge about football than you do. Please share your thoughts.

My thoughts are that you have a stick so far up there, that you can't get sarcasm. And, don't come after my knowledge without knowing anything about my career, KingCockroach!

 

[America's Cowboy]

Byron Jones was not over drafted. He became a top 5 corner lol.

Not for us.

 

[Coogiguy03]

My point is that developing a LT on the job isn't a wise move when your QB cost 60 million a season.

It's rather stupid, especially when he's stinking up the field.

Stupid was taking a guy that hasn't played that much and over evaluating him, terrible pick

 

[jaythecowboy]

Not for us.

Yea he was. Cowboys just didn’t re-sign him. Playing him at safety for three seasons was the mistake—not drafting him. Same thing would have happened if they kept Micah at off ball linebacker.

 

[75boyz]

The current state of the entire oline including Guyton, after the failed Solari experiment, is in Coach Riley's hands.
Hopefully he can:
- make the proper position assignments.
- create a scheme accenting all players skillsets into one cohesive unit with both starters and backups.

Guyton at LT is only one of many position question marks this oline needs answered.
In Riley we trust.

 

[Ranching]

The current state of the entire oline including Guyton, after the failed Solari experiment, is in Coach Riley's hands.
Hopefully he can:
- make the proper position assignments.
- create a scheme accenting all players skillsets into one cohesive unit with both starters and backups.

Guyton at LT is only one of many position question marks this oline needs answered.
In Riley we trust.

Wow! That's a great perspective. Coaching matters, especially with a kid like this.

 

[Pass2Run]

I went back and watched a few games. And I honestly do not think WR is the problem.

Our guys are coming along. Jalen Brooks is developing. Flournoy is a good prospect who I see developing and Tolbert has taken the next step.

That's why I think Golden would be a sheer waste of a pick.

I don't think they should draft a WR early unless it's one that changes the identity of your team.

Only three guys in this draft do that for me. Bech, Burden, TMac.

Otherwise, go d-line, online, secondary or a game changing TE.

I'm not even a first round RB guy, but even that makes more sense. I just don't think our WRs are that bad. Decent group if you know how to design plays for them.

The Golden hype is a bluff. At least I hope it is.

 

[Plankton]

Pretty much means Cowboys overdrafted once again in the 1st round. These repeated super costly 1st round mistakes is what keeps seriously affecting the team's ability to rebuild. Tyler Guyton should not have been taken in the 1st round. They keep overdrafting players year after year after year.

Here is a list of every player the Cowboys have overdrafted in the 1st round and in what year during the Jerry Jones era (1989 - 2024):

From recent to latest...

2024: Tyler Guyton
2023: Mazi Smith
2019: no pick
2018: Leighton Vander Esch
2017: Taco Charlton
2015: Byron Jones
2012: Morris ClayBURNED (Claiborne)
2009: no pick
2008: Felix Jones & Mike Jenkins
2007: Anthony Spencer
2006: Bobby Carpenter
2005: Marcus Spears
2004: no pick
2003: Terence Newman
2001: no pick
2000: no pick
1999: Ebenezer Ekuban
1997: David LaFleur
1996: no pick
1995: no pick
1994: Shante Carver
1993: no pick
1991: Kelvin Pritchett

The "no pick" years were where the Cowboys traded those 1st round picks away for veteran players from other teams which most did not pan out. Take a look at all of those "overdrafted" 1st round picks and wasted traded away 1st round draft picks. That is a total of 24 1st round draft picks the Cowboys mistakenly OVERDRAFTED and WASTED in the 1st round out of 36 years of the Jerry Jones owned era. THAT is a big reason this franchise team has failed for so long and continues to fail. It's because this organization STINKS at drafting, especially in the 1st round.

Kelvin Pritchett was selected for the Lions in a draft day trade. He was never a Cowboy. He was traded for picks that became Dixon Edwards, James Richards and Tony Hill (the DE, not WR). FWIW, Pritchett played 14 years in the NFL.

 

[Pass2Run]

Lets start at the top:

1) Duke's business is at the Star.

2) Duke trained him last summer and got him to the point he was competitive in the open vs Garrett.

3) Duke trains many of the top NFL and NCAA OL at their craft. Guys like Zack Martin, Andrew Whitworth Lane Johnson and they swear by him'

4) I never heard him say anything like this about anybody he was asked about before.

5) Guyton begged out of games last year multiple times and they didn't bother trotting him out there vs Watt

6) Those of you that are trying to put a positive spin on this make laugh.

Right.

Most inconsistent LT I've seen in a long while in Dallas. Definitely has the physical tools. But he doesn't process and react with the intuition and instincts needed for the position. Too worried before the snap so he's playing scared out there.

I mean, they are forcing it to try to save face.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Right.

Most inconsistent LT I've seen in a long while. Definitely has the physical tools. But he doesn't process and react with the intuition and instincts needed for the position. Too worried before the snap so he's playing scared out there.

Sounds like some of the traits the guy he's protecting suffers with!

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yea he was. Cowboys just didn’t re-sign him. Playing him at safety for three seasons was the mistake—not drafting him. Same thing would have happened if they kept Micah at off ball linebacker.

Oh, that was in 2018, his second to last year with the Cowboys. My bad.