Duke Robinson vs. Herman Johnson

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Chocolate Lab;2719379 said:
Why is Duke considered by pretty much everyone a better player? I was just looking around, and NFLDS has Duke #1 and Herman #2 at OG. I'm pretty sure many other sites have Johnson as lower, sometimes much lower. Why is that? I watched the entire draftparty clips of many plays from each, and I was more impressed with Johnson. Obviously he isn't very quick, but what I liked was good effort on practically every play. Even when he had to get out to a LB, where he may look like he's laboring a bit, he played to the whistle. Looked to me like Robinson didn't always do that. And Herman was at least as good at moving people out of the way on simple power running plays.

Just wondering what the story is.

I'll be honest, I dont really want either one of them. Especially with our 1st pick and (only day one pick.)

I think both of them are going to end up struggling in the pros.

I'd also add that between the two, I'd probably prefer Johnson becasue I think he can be had later (say 3rd rd somewhere) and he's also a quality person with good work ethic.
 

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41gy#;2720395 said:
I think Loadholt is a right tackle. I was holding out hope, but he's a RT.

If the Bears take Ebon Britton, look for the Vikings to take Loadholt in round 1. They need a RT, and they had the coach, gm, ect... at Oklahoma's pro day.

Not saying it wont happen, but I'll be shocked if he's a 1st rd pick. Especially considering how bad he looked vs Florida.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2719379 said:
Why is Duke considered by pretty much everyone a better player? I was just looking around, and NFLDS has Duke #1 and Herman #2 at OG. I'm pretty sure many other sites have Johnson as lower, sometimes much lower. Why is that? I watched the entire draftparty clips of many plays from each, and I was more impressed with Johnson. Obviously he isn't very quick, but what I liked was good effort on practically every play. Even when he had to get out to a LB, where he may look like he's laboring a bit, he played to the whistle. Looked to me like Robinson didn't always do that. And Herman was at least as good at moving people out of the way on simple power running plays.

Just wondering what the story is.

I am right there with you on this one. Duke makes me nervous b/c he is on and off. He could be Allenesque w/his size, power and quickness. Instead he only flashes dominance, other times he turns it off completely. He also goes to the ground just a tad too much for my taste.


The Munster may not be as athletic, but he plays with his head on a swivel, is also a beast in the run game and has really long arms to excell in the passing game. He is also a team leader, which is something that DR has not been. The OL needs more smart team guys, not another unmotivated knucklehead w/potential. That said, Duke w/the 51st pick would not be a catastrophe. Just think HJ in the 3rd would be better value, if not a better player in the long run.
 

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41gy#;2720364 said:
I like Herman Johnson, but I wonder if Dallas sees his best fit on the right side. The left side needs help. Yet, I've read nothing that says he's just a right side player. At one time, this guy was considered a potential first round pick.

It looked like Hudson Houck was at LSU's pro day. I saw a picture.

If you were going to eventually move Leonard Davis to LT, then, you could play him on the right side.

I do know that when I watched LSU, I wanted "that guy".

At least, he showed up to the Senior Bowl. Robinson didn't go.

Having said all this, my gut tells me the Cowboys will not draft him.

If necessary, I think Bigg would be just as much of a stud at LG.
 
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