Dumb Cowboys Conspiracy Theory

Alexander

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CowboyMark;2284722 said:
http://jeffpearlman.com/?p=647
This idiot basically said that the NFL planned to trade walker to get the cowboys winning again because it is good for the nfl.

Ridiculous.

The trade was hardly hailed as a coup for Dallas at the time.

I am sure with revisionist history it sounds nice.

So do the stupid ideas that the U.S. government blew up the Towers on purpose. It doesn't make the theory any more credible.
 

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that trade was all about draft picks.

To conclude this he would have to be saying the nfl then assisted in some way the cowboys drafting players, making sure they took the right guys!

that guy really is out there. Why anyone would give that guy money for that book is strange to me.
 

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Talk about a blast from the past — I can't believe Craig Greenwood is still trying to spread his theory, considering that he first posted it MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO on usenet.

It looks like he's been expanding and re-writing his post over the years, though. Talk about an irrational obsession.

Here was his first post about it, way back on July 30, 1998 --

http://tinyurl.com/3nq9sg

Dear Viking fans. I know you must be sick of always being reminded of the trade your team made with the Dallas Cowboys in 1989 for Herschel Walker but I have my own theory of what I think happend. The trade was fixed folks!I think that your GM at the time made the trade to further along his own career. Mike Lynn did become comissioner of the World League of American Football 18 months later!Also the NFL commish has to ok all trades before it is official. Tagliabue ok'd this trade after being commish for only 6 days!And he got the job of comissioner with the help of Jerry Jones and Mike Lynn!The thing you have to remember is the networks want as many viewers as possible, and a loosing Dallas team wasn't going to let that happen. So what if the tv networks told the league owners that if they made a trade to help Dallas get better they would give the owners more money the next cotract.The tv money did increase the next season at a big surprise to most everyone! Also why did the league play the 1992 Super Bowl in Minnesota? Was that a payoff to the Viking owners too? I have written a ten page story on this subject if you would like a copy send five dollars to Craig Greenwood,11 Commondore Circle Baldwinsville NY 13027.I am not doing this for money. that is only to pay for copying and postage. My email address is CGREENW1@TWCNY.RR.COM


On Oct. 15, 1998, he posted this --

http://tinyurl.com/439ehq

I have long thought that the NFL was fixed to some degree but not how you describe here.I think that the Herschel Walker trade in '89,to Minnesota from Dallas was ....how I should say?Well an agreement between the the league owners that a good Dallas team is good for tv ratings.I think it was awful suspicious that Tagliabue was only in the comissioners office for six days,when this trade hit his desk and it was up to him to o.k. it.I mean was this trade the thing that made Rozzele quit so abruptly?Also the Vikings GM that made the trade,Mike Lynn went on to be comissioner of the NFL's World League of American Football,18 months later.A plum job to get at the time. Was this a part of the trade that the league didn't tell us about? Also why did they play the 1992 Super Bowl in Minnesota of all places?Was that another pay back too?


And on Dec. 24, 1998, he began posting something he called "The Walkergate Theory" in a seres of usenet groups (including one for Art Bell fans) under the names "Ranger Bob" and "G-men fan" --

http://tinyurl.com/4amqlm

I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe in UFO's
Well I would if I actually ever saw one.That being said I can't say with
complete confidence that the following story is really true.If I actually
had the people involved admit to it then I would know I was right.Or if I
was actually at the scene of were this story took place.But I wasn't there
and no one is ever going to admit to it so after reading this story you will
have to make up your own mind of the truth.

In 1989 a blockbuster trade was made in the NFL.Herschel Walker of the
Dallas Cowboys was traded to the Minnesota Vikings for what ended up being
thirteen players.Five players were veterans and the other eight players were
draft picks. Very high draft picks,three of them were the Vikings next three number one draft picks The rest were either second or third round picks.Pretty good trade considering that most people thought that Walker was worth one first and one second round pick at most. So what happend, was the Viking management stupid or what?

Lets go back to March of 1989,six months before the trade was finalized.The
NFL has its annual meetings for the team owners to discuss the state of the
league. If you remember it was not a very good picture back then.The television ratings are down and the networks are saying that the next contract with the
league would be for less money, and the current contract expires after the
1989 season.One year to get the ratings up or else in other words.Also a
topic at theese meetings is, would Walker get traded here?It has been
rumored for months the Cowboys were shopping him but so far no deal.What
was the holdup? The Cowboys were the worst team in football the last
year,there was no reason to keep the leagues leading rusher when your team
was that bad.O yeah the Cowboys.Americas Team. The worst team in the
league.Do you think that that might be why the ratings are down? I mean all
those fans of the Cowboys probably just couldn't bear to watch,that had to
have some effect on ratings.Don't you think?
Well what if the networks gave the owners a chance to get a better t.v.
contract if they just did one 'little favor'?What if the networks top brass
told the owners that if they gave the Cowboys a real good deal on this
Walker trade,that they in turn would give the owners more money on the next
contract?The networks are gambling of course that the Cowboys would get good
enough right away so the ratings would go back up.
If you were a owner of a NFL team
What would you do?Before you answer lets look at it this way.You are a owner
of a team and you have been the owner for a long time.You or your father
lets say bought the team years ago for a pittance for what the team is worth
today.A smaller t.v. contract would hurt but not that much.What would hurt
you is if the public found out that the league was 'fixing' things so that
certain teams were better than others.
Of course you would say to the networks you were not interested in their
'help'Dallas get better scam.
But what if you are a owner that has invested millions of dollars in the
last few years in buying your team,and you owe a check to the bank at the
end of every month?your reaction just might be 'I need all the money I can.I
don't care what we have to do to get the networks to give us more money,I'll
do it'.

Well for the sake of argument lets say thats what was going on at theese
owners meetings in 1989.After the owners and the commissioner of the NFL
break out of the first behind closed door meetings the commissioner Pete
Rozelle makes a surprizing announcement.He tells the media that he is going
to retire as soon as a replacement can be found for him.When asked why he
wants to retire so suddenly he says its because he doesn't get along with
the newer owners in the league.
Aha! the newer owners he didn't get along with.But why?Well you see the
commissioner has to approve any trade before it is actually done, I think
that maybe the Vikings and the Cowboys were all ready to make a deal right
there in the first meeting but Rozelle said no way.He knew that the networks
have been pushing the league for a favorable deal to help the Cowboys get
better.And Rozelle and the older or 'Old Guard' owners as the media calls
them think it is too unethical to do.Rozelle as commissioner has all the
power in the world to stop any trade he doesn't like and he doesn't like
what the Vikings are giving up.The Viking and Cowboy management are both on
the side of the newer owners.Jerry Jones has just bought the Cowboys a month
earlier for 130million dollars.The Viking management,represented at the
meetings by GM Mike Lynn are on the side of the new owners because as a
small market team they need all the tv money they can get .Well the meetings
continue and at the end of them we find out that 1)Walker doesn't get traded
2)The league has formed a six man committee to find someone to take
Rozelle's place,and as soon as they get one Rozelle will step down.And 3)The
NFL is going to start a new international league called the World League of
American Football in 1991.
Remember #3,its important.

By the summer of 1989 the six man committee has found someone to take
Rozelle's place.The guy is Jim Finks the GM of the Saints.The media was a
little dumb founded as to why it took them so long to pick Finks because he
was such a obvious candidate
from the start.The media just doesn't know what is really going on here.No
one does.I myself didn't figure it out till five years later,when all the
paybacks kick in.Opps I'm getting ahead of the story.Sorry.The reason it
took so long to make Finks a candidate was because the six man committee was
made up of all 'Old Guard' owners.They were looking for a guy like Rozelle
that wont approve any shady trades to help Dallas,and Finks promises he
wont.The group of newer owners want a guy that will o.k. any trade that the
networks want as long as the owners get more money and they know Finks isn't
going to.Well Finks is the candidate and the owners have to vote him in,as
if it is in any doubt he will get voted in,or so says the media.SURPRISE!
Finks doesn't get enough votes,he needed 21 and only got 16.The 16 votes he
got were 'Old Guard'owners,the other no votes were from the new owner
group.Of course that means Jerry Jones and Mike Lynn,the two guys that have
the deal already, like the networks want but can't get a commissioner that
will o.k. it.

Well that is all about to change.The newer owners cry to the media that they
had no one on the six man committee to pick a new commissioner and they want
a say in such matters.Mike Lynn even lobbies to get himself on the committee
to get a new commissiner.I don't know if Mike Lynn was ever officially put
on the committee or not.It doesn't really matter.The newer owners have had
their say and its time to find a new candidate to take Rozelle's place.They
come up with a new name.Paul Tagliabue
At the time not many people knew who he was,especially compared to Jim Finks
but here he is ready to get voted in in early October1989.Of course he is
picked by the newer owners, and it is my guess that he has promised the
owners that he WILL approve the trade that the networks so desperately want
done.Oh bye the way Tagliabue's job for the NFL is legal liasion between the
league and ABC's Monday Night Football people.Thats right.The one guy in the
whole league that is closest to the networks is up for the job as
commissioner of the league.I'll bet that he was the first guy in the league
to hear the networks sales pitch on the help Dallas get better for more
money scam.Well Tagliabue gets the necessary votes of course and has been
commissioner ever since.
What was strange at the time also was that it wasn't Rozelle that introduced
Tagliabue to the media.Rozelle was already heading home.To hurt about
something to embrace Tagliabue as the new commissioner.Well someone had to
get up to the podium and introduce him.That somebody was Jerry Jones.

Six days after Tagliabue becomes commissioner a trade comes up.The long
awaited trade that sends Herschel Walker to another team.The Vikings Mike
Lynn trades the teams future for Walker, to Jerry Jones' Cowboys and Paul
Tagliabue approves it.SURPRIZE!
After the season is over the NFL and the networks have a new television
contract and its for more money. The owners rejoice,more money for them to
divide.Tagliabue is praised as a great negotiator.I say he had the new
contract in hand when he okayed the Walker trade.

Two years later the trade proves to be a disaster for the Vikings on the
field.The Vikings get worse and worse and the Cowboys get better and
better.The Viking fans want Mike Lynn fired.He ends up the commissioner of
the NFL's new league The World League of American Football,a plum job to get
at the time.Does this sound like a pay back for Lynn for giving away his
teams future to the Cowboys?Was this job as commissioner of the WALF
promised to Lynn way back in 1989?It was a good job to give to someone that
had made probably the biggest blunder of all times as far as trades
go.Unless of course you made the blunder on purpose.

Now what was the rest of Viking management thinking when they let Mike Lynn
destroy the team?Was there something in it for them?
Well don't we always play Super Bowls where it is warm?
How come the 1992 Super Bowl was played in Minnesota?
Another pay back maybe?The host city gets ten percent of the tickets to the
Super Bowl, not a bad chunck of change for a team that is thought of as
being cheap.

Well like I said at the start who really knows,maybe all this circumstantial
evidence is just one big coincidence.We will never really know.
 

BAT

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So what was the Cowboys driven conspiracy regarding the SB held in Detroit??


Oh yah I forgot, the League convinced Barry to retire early so Emmitt could become Payton's successor as the All-time League Rushing Leader.


How 'bout dem Cowboys!!!
 

Asklesko

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As crazy as it sounds, it makes sense. I dunno. I want to believe.
 

Apollo Creed

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Was an infant at the time, if a similar trade happened today. What would be an example of it? Adrian Peterson for the Lions entire draft and 5 players?
 

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Yeah, the NFL has a long history of wanting to help the Cowboys. That's why they have implemented rules specifically designed to assist our players like:

1. The Emmitt Smith Helmet Rule
2. The Michael Irvin Offensive Pass Interference Rule
3. The Roy Williams Horse Collar Tackle Rule

I know there are more but I am a bit fuzzy this morning.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I am of the belief that the salary cap was established with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones in mind.

The Rooney Rule regarding teams having to interview minority coaches was also due in large part to the Cowboys.

If this nimrod would care to go back and look at the high number of horrible calls that have one against us over the years he would see that the NFL is not for us but against us!

The networks, on the other hand, love us! Pat Summerall used to say that they had an unwritten policy: when ratings are down, show the Cowboys.

Sheesh!
 

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CowboyMark;2284722 said:
http://jeffpearlman.com/?p=647
This idiot basically said that the NFL planned to trade walker to get the cowboys winning again because it is good for the nfl.

So I wonder if this same IDIOT feels that the NFL made up the "TUCK RULE" for Tom Brady and the Patriots so they could begin their run of 3 Super Bowls in 4 years?

Ya know, because it would help the NFL put a historically perrinial, mediocre team on the forefront for several seasons. :rolleyes:
 

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THUMPER;2285056 said:
Yeah, the NFL has a long history of wanting to help the Cowboys. That's why they have implemented rules specifically designed to assist our players like:

1. The Emmitt Smith Helmet Rule
2. The Michael Irvin Offensive Pass Interference Rule
3. The Roy Williams Horse Collar Tackle Rule

I know there are more but I am a bit fuzzy this morning.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I am of the belief that the salary cap was established with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones in mind.

The Rooney Rule regarding teams having to interview minority coaches was also due in large part to the Cowboys.

If this nimrod would care to go back and look at the high number of horrible calls that have one against us over the years he would see that the NFL is not for us but against us!

The networks, on the other hand, love us! Pat Summerall used to say that they had an unwritten policy: when ratings are down, show the Cowboys.

Sheesh!

You forgot the Marion Barber stiff arm rule that is now being enforced.
 

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GoinForSix;2284953 said:
Was an infant at the time, if a similar trade happened today. What would be an example of it? Adrian Peterson for the Lions entire draft and 5 players?

Didn't Mike Ditka and the Saint's mortgage an entire draft for Ricky Williams back in the day? Guess that one doesn't count because the Saints are still the Aint's.
 

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CowboyMark;2284722 said:
http://jeffpearlman.com/?p=647
This idiot basically said that the NFL planned to trade walker to get the cowboys winning again because it is good for the nfl.

Obviously this conspiracy theory FOR the Cowboys is untrue but the 963,278 conspiracy theories AGAINST the Cowboys are all true.
 

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Have you heard the one about the five guys who actually own and run the world?
 

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jobberone;2285172 said:
Have you heard the one about the five guys who actually own and run the world?

:shush: shhh Who told you that I'm one of them .:gent:
 

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When you see a site named "JeffPearlman.com" and then an "article" by Jeff Pearlman, it's probably okay to ignore it. The fact that you can't get a job writing about sports so you start your own website and dub yourself a journalist should be a clue.
 

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Wow, so many inaccuracies, but this was the biggest one:

The REAL reason for the increased TV contract was not an NFL conspiracy. In 1990, the league added a 17th week to the NFL regular season as well as expansion to a 12-team playoff structure. That creates more games and especially more playoff games, which are by far more watched than regular season games.

That equals BIG ratings, and thus BIG money.
 

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jimmy40;2285160 said:
Obviously this conspiracy theory FOR the Cowboys is untrue but the 963,278 conspiracy theories AGAINST the Cowboys are all true.

At least there's logic to the ones AGAINST the Cowboys. I mean, if you think it's a coincidence that there are waaaaay more rules created against what Dallas players do, then you're not open-minded enough to discuss it anyway. I get that some people don't believe in conspiracy theories. That's fine, but when something stares you straight in the face...
 
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