Dwayne Bowe highlight reel

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theogt;1426870 said:
For the others that think he's slow, checkout the play at 0:46 on this highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

Bowe is standing on the 32-1/2 yard line when the play starts at just before the 0:46 marker. He starts his route fast. At the 20 yard line he slows up as if to run an out route or a corner route, but quickly cuts back in to run a post. Russell throws the ball right at the 0:48 mark. At that point, Bowe slows his route (because the ball is thrown behind him), and crosses the goalline while catching the ball at the 0:50 market -- while the deep safety is several steps behind.

Thus, he ran about a 30-35 yard route, in which he intentionally slows to 1/2 (or 3/4) speed on two separate occasions, in just over 4 seconds, leaving the deep safety bewildered and abused. That's not slow.

If that's not enough, check out the play at 1:33. You won't see Keyshawn or the like making these types of plays.
No offense, but that's the last example I'd use of speed. The safety took an awful, lazy read on the play and guessed wrong. Then there was no one else in the middle. That was just a terrible defensive breakdown more than anything great that Bowe did.
 

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C'mon you know the E-Girls are going to snatch him before us like they do every year when we have a quality pick about to fall to us.. :)
 

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I think this kid is a little overrated.


Meachem or Hill, please.
 

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VirusX;1426890 said:
C'mon you know the E-Girls are going to snatch him before us like they do every year when we have a quality pick about to fall to us.. :)
Pretty sure we pick before the Iggles this year, cap'n.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1426889 said:
No offense, but that's the last example I'd use of speed. The safety took an awful, lazy read on the play and guessed wrong. Then there was no one else in the middle. That was just a terrible defensive breakdown more than anything great that Bowe did.
You missed the point. The safety's horrible play on the ball was incidental. He didn't outrun anyone in the play, of course, but that wasn't the point. My post was about looking at his "in game" speed, and that play clearly showed it.
 

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Bowe is going to be a solid or very good WR.

He runs great routes and has good hands. That is the makings of a good WR.

What strikes me about watching his highlight reel is how many times he had to make big adjustments to the ball: behind him, way high, low, etc.

Mr. #1 draft pick sure didn't throw very many nice passes on that highlight reel. He threw a couple awesome passes, but the majority of them show Bowe's ability to adjust to the ball even though Bowe is running very good routes.
 

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If you want a deep threat at #22 you draft Meachem or Ginn(too early for Rice).

If you want a tough over the middle chain mover that's great in the redzone, you draft Bowe. He never broke 1000 yards in college but his TD production was good.IMO he's a poor man's TO. Drops a few because he body catches and he's not a tremendous deep threat with average quickness are his knocks. Is most often compared to Key and that's probably a fair comparison. He's worthy at #22 if for no other reason than we could kick TO to the curb after 2007 if he acts the fool.
 

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cobra;1426931 said:
Bowe is going to be a solid or very good WR.

He runs great routes and has good hands. That is the makings of a good WR.

What strikes me about watching his highlight reel is how many times he had to make big adjustments to the ball: behind him, way high, low, etc.

Mr. #1 draft pick sure didn't throw very many nice passes on that highlight reel. He threw a couple awesome passes, but the majority of them show Bowe's ability to adjust to the ball even though Bowe is running very good routes.
Are you watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

???? There are numerous nice throws through traffic and I can only counted a couple that were off-target (and even those weren't very bad).
 

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superpunk;1426893 said:
Pretty sure we pick before the Iggles this year, cap'n.
Pretty sure we did the year they jumped in front of us and grabbed S. Andrews, too.
 

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Big Dakota;1426970 said:
If you want a deep threat at #22 you draft Meachem or Ginn(too early for Rice).

If you want a tough over the middle chain mover that's great in the redzone, you draft Bowe. He never broke 1000 yards in college but his TD production was good.IMO he's a poor man's TO. Drops a few because he body catches and he's not a tremendous deep threat with average quickness are his knocks. Is most often compared to Key and that's probably a fair comparison. He's worthy at #22 if for no other reason than we could kick TO to the curb after 2007 if he acts the fool.

I like Meachem alot. I would be very happy if we drafted him. I've never seen him play, so it's hard for me to compare except by the production and combine numbers. I have seen Bowe play, which is why I'm more enamoured with him. Also, he was a stud at the Senior Bowl, which shows he can compete against top talent. Usually that's a decent indicator of how you will play in the NFL, not always. I think Ware's Senior Bowl work put him solidly on our radar. That, and I suspect the Cowboys knew Merrimen was going to flip his agents to the Postons and lost interest (or was in Rosen?).
 

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Chocolate Lab;1426889 said:
No offense, but that's the last example I'd use of speed. The safety took an awful, lazy read on the play and guessed wrong. Then there was no one else in the middle. That was just a terrible defensive breakdown more than anything great that Bowe did.

Come on, give the guy some credit, he set the safety up by going outside and then cutting back inside. That was a pretty awesome play, really. Will NFL safeties fall as easily for that move? Probably not. Well, except maybe Sean Taylor. Still, the kid has some moves and he's fluid in his breaks.
 

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His combine workout on NFL network was impressive. He might not have the straight-line speed, but he looked to have quickness and burst. He also caught the ball well with his hands, as others have mentioned.
 

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I like Bowe. My wish for our 1st round Pick is one of the Dwayne's, either Bowe or Jarrett. I have a slight preference for Jarrett, but wouldn't cry if we get Bowe. My top 2 receivers after CJ are DJ and DB.
 

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For some reason, LSU players never met our expectation. Dave Lefalour??, Bradie james, Marcus Spears, Sky Green..
 

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CalCBFan;1426764 said:
I like the way he catches the ball w/ his hands and also his blocking ability. I too, thought he looked a bit on the slow side, but I think he would be a good replacement for T.O. Who was that WR from LSU that (I think) the Steelers drafted a couple of years ago? He was a smaller guy, but very fast. How has he done in the league?...

you mean Mark Clayton, he was drafted by the Ravens, he's done pretty good for an O that doesn't showcase the pass, he's shifty as all hell
 

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CalCBFan;1426764 said:
I like the way he catches the ball w/ his hands and also his blocking ability. I too, thought he looked a bit on the slow side, but I think he would be a good replacement for T.O. Who was that WR from LSU that (I think) the Steelers drafted a couple of years ago? He was a smaller guy, but very fast. How has he done in the league?...

if you're looking for a replacement for TO, Robert Meachem is your guy

he's only about 10lbs lighter, which is easy to attain, and is just as explosive after the catch and physical, both are 6'2"
 

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LatinMind;1427348 said:
was that a highlight reel or just a clip with routine catches? this is a classic case of good speed in a straight line, but not good football speed. as was the case with troy williamson
That settles it. Bowe is a top 10 pick.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1427267 said:
you mean Mark Clayton, he was drafted by the Ravens, he's done pretty good for an O that doesn't showcase the pass, he's shifty as all hell

Mark Clayton was from Oklahoma. At this point, I'm pretty stumpted as to who he was talking about...
 
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