Eagles and Commanders; both teams looking weak.

[1fisher]

Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what!

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

In my opinion the RedStinks looked ok against an old and done team....

 

[Doomsday101]

Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what!

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

I thought both looked so so. If we judge these teams as hard as we judge the Cowboys then I don't think either one was overly impressive.

 

[5Stars]

I thought both looked so so. If we judge these teams as hard as we judge the Cowboys then I don't think either one was overly impressive.

I don't know...the Stinks looked "somewhat fast" to me last night, especially the running game and the defense looked pretty stout!



Now, they don't have much depth so if more injuries come about that could derail them, but the eagles looked awful! Especially McPuke...

I don't know now...

 

[5Stars]

In my opinion the RedStinks looked ok against an old and done team....

Maybe that's it, because the Stinks sure looked like the better team, at the eagles HOUSE!

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know...the Stinks looked "somewhat fast" to me last night, especially the running game and the defense looked pretty stout!



Now, they don't have much depth so if more injuries come about that could derail them, but the eagles looked awful! Especially McPuke...

I don't know now...

I think both teams have certain areas of strength but all in all I thought the game was so so by both teams some good some bad. I don't think either team will be easy games for us but I like this team we have and feel we have a very good chance of beating both of them. No doubt we have some things that we need to take care of as well such as the defense but I think when we get Newman back it will allow Stewart to do a lot more with the defense than he is able to do now.

 

[skinsfunguy]

I dont understand why you think we look weak? Sure we havent been putting up points like you guys but our defense has given up one touchdown in two games and is averaging 12.5 points per game. While you guys are doing it with offense and flash we are doing it with defense and a solid run game.

Our defense looks much better then yours at this point. Your offense looks much better then ours at this point. Both are equally important. So please tell me how we look "weak"

Commanders points per game so far: 18
Commanders opponents points per game so far: 12.5

Cowboys points per game so far: 41
Cowboys opponents points per game so far: 27.5

 

[burmafrd]

going by the numbers then we should win by 8.

 

[bbwlover]

Campbell, is obviously, in a learning phase. He has played fewer games than Romo, as a starter. He continues to throw high to the little midget, Moss. I'm a Cowboy fan but don't undercut this kid. He is a high character person and he is going to get better. Joey, was easy to HATE. This kid took his team into, perhaps, the most difficult stadium to play in and came out with a win. Did anyone, other than myself, notice how apathetic the Filthy fans were toward the end of the game? Silence. They weren't even booing! Did anyone find that strange? I picked the 'Skins to finish last in our division but they looked solid. McNabb is a shell of his former self but the Commander's front seven
looked pretty good. Comments?

 

[silverbear]

Say what you will about the Commanders, their secondary looks very good.

The Skins are 14th in passing yards per game allowed, at 229.5... they're tied for 17th in completion percentage allowed, at 61.9... they're tied for last in interceptions, with zero... they're 14th in quarterback rating allowed, at 80.4... they're tied for 10th in number of first downs allowed via pass, at 24...

Their pass defense is highly mediocre, not "very good"...

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Commanders play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game.

I'll believe that when I see it...

We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

And so are we... 5th in the league in total rushing, one spot behind the Skins... we actually have the higher yards per carry average, 4.7 to 4.3... we have 4 rushing TDs so far, they have 2...

And on the flip side, our run defense is just about as stout as theirs has been thus far in the season, too... we're 11th, the Skins are 9th... we allow a slightly lower yards per carry average, 4.3 to 4.5...

Looking at those numbers, I don't see a real advantage for either team in the running game... both teams have very good running attacks, both teams have a bit better than average run defenses...

Of course, the Skins have now lost both their starters on the right side of their offensive line, which might make give the Cowboys the edge...

It could well come down to our passing attack versus their pass defense, their passing attack versus our pass defense... I'll take my chances with those matchups...

 

[silverbear]

Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball

He had 3 completions of 40 plus last season, in 207 attempts... that's 1 in every 69 attempts, or less than one every other game...

Donovan McNabb hit on 1 40 yarder in every 22.6 attempts last year, Drew Brees hit on 1 in every 30.8 attempts, Carson Palmer 1 in every 34.7 attempts, Tony Romo has hit on 1 in every 35.5 attempts thus far in his 12 game NFL career... that's nearly twice as often as Jason hits on one...

And of course, a number of the 40 yarders that Campbell HAS completed thus far have been heavy on the run after catch...

Really, though Campbell had a rep for throwing a nice deep ball coming out of college, he hasn't really demonstrated much of a deep threat thus far in his NFL career...

 

[silverbear]

Our defense looks much better then yours at this point. Your offense looks much better then ours at this point. Both are equally important. So please tell me how we look "weak"

Well, let's start with the fact that neither of your opponents to date has won a game in the NFL yet (which is also true for the Boys)...

Commanders points per game so far: 18

And it took you extra time to get to 16 against the Fins...

Commanders opponents points per game so far: 12.5

The Fins are averaging 16.5 for the season, the Iggles 12.5... IOW, neither one is what you'd call a potent offense...

Cowboys points per game so far: 41
Cowboys opponents points per game so far: 27.5

Average margin of victory, Skins: 5.5 points per game...

Average margin of victory, Boys: 13.5 points per game...

Mutual opponents: Dallas 37, Miami 20, in Miami... Washington 16, Miami 13 (OT), in Washington...

 

[silverbear]

Campbell, is obviously, in a learning phase. He has played fewer games than Romo, as a starter.

Three whole games less... maybe Skins fans need to stop using that as a copout, to explain away the significant difference in the numbers put up by the two quarterbacks...

I picked the 'Skins to finish last in our division but they looked solid. McNabb is a shell of his former self but the Commander's front seven
looked pretty good. Comments?

I'm still unimpressed with the Skins... especially when their offensive linemen are droppin' like flies, they had little quality depth on the OL to begin with...

 

[skinsfunguy]

He had 3 completions of 40 plus last season, in 207 attempts... that's 1 in every 69 attempts, or less than one every other game...

Donovan McNabb hit on 1 40 yarder in every 22.6 attempts last year, Drew Brees hit on 1 in every 30.8 attempts, Carson Palmer 1 in every 34.7 attempts, Tony Romo has hit on 1 in every 35.5 attempts thus far in his 12 game NFL career... that's nearly twice as often as Jason hits on one...

And of course, a number of the 40 yarders that Campbell HAS completed thus far have been heavy on the run after catch...

Really, though Campbell had a rep for throwing a nice deep ball coming out of college, he hasn't really demonstrated much of a deep threat thus far in his NFL career...

Look at how our secondary played for three quarters on Monday Night. They didn't start giving up yards until the fourth quarter when the CB's began playing off the cornerbacks in order to not give up the big play.

The Eagles offense was STAGNANT for three quarters of plan on Monday. Did you watch the game or are you just going by the stats?

 

[TunaFan33]

Why is everyone having this silly discussion? Who cares about stats? In the end, W's and L's are the only ones that matter.

 

[silverbear]

Look at how our secondary played for three quarters on Monday Night. They didn't start giving up yards until the fourth quarter when the CB's began playing off the cornerbacks in order to not give up the big play.

Seems to me the subject was Jason Campbell, and his ability to throw the deep ball... now, you suddenly want to change that subject...

 

[silverbear]

Why is everyone having this silly discussion?

Because we like to talk football... what a novel idea, eh??

If you don't like a thread, I have another novel idea for you-- don't post to it... but don't go runnin' around like you get to dictate what we do or don't talk about in here... the number of posts to this thread suggests that SOME of us find it interesting, even if you don't...

 

[skinsfunguy]

Seems to me the subject was Jason Campbell, and his ability to throw the deep ball... now, you suddenly want to change that subject...

Sorry, I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote post # 69 where you said,

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Originally Posted by fortdick
Say what you will about the Commanders, their secondary looks very good.

The Skins are 14th in passing yards per game allowed, at 229.5... they're tied for 17th in completion percentage allowed, at 61.9... they're tied for last in interceptions, with zero... they're 14th in quarterback rating allowed, at 80.4... they're tied for 10th in number of first downs allowed via pass, at 24...

Their pass defense is highly mediocre, not "very good"...