Eagles and Commanders; both teams looking weak.

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FuzzyLumpkins;1652831 said:
That because Garcia is a better QB then McNabb. What made McNabb successful was being able to buy time and throw deep so his receivers could adjust to his bad throws or take off and run for first downs on 3rd and long.

If you ask him to stay in the pocket and make consistent throws on short and intermediate routes hes awful.


To be fair, McNabb is in the wrong system.

He would still be a very strong QB if he was in Oaklands offense, whereas Garcia would be terrible in it.

How Philly doesn't see that is beyond me.
 

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TexasReferee;1653137 said:
Based on the Commanders schedule they could concievably be 6-0 before playing the Patriots on October 28. They play the Giants at home, Lions at home, Packers on the road and Cardinals at home. Not a lot of fire power in those opponents. With us playing the Bears on the road, I don't really want to be chasing the Deadskins for 4 weeks. Any thoughts???


Packers and Lions will probably beat the Skins. "not much firepower"... oh yeah.... the Skins are lighting people up themselves LOL
 

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im so sick of hearing how well JC played the first two weeks, but if Romo's QB rating slips under an 80 for one game, we hear hes overrated, etc.

JC is terrible and not even near Romo's level at this point.

Roy Williams has just as many catches as JC has TD's so far, JC is a bum... and he has a 66 QB rating, so can they get off his jock??
 

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Say what you will about the Commanders, their secondary looks very good. Their running game is very good. Campbell can't hit his butt with both hands, however.

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Commanders play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game. We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

They are a surprise, for sure.
 

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fortdick;1653663 said:
Say what you will about the Commanders, their secondary looks very good. Their running game is very good. Campbell can't hit his butt with both hands, however.

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Commanders play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game. We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

They are a surprise, for sure.

I think Dallas will be able to pass on them. I saw guys open lastnight and McNabb just over threw them or threw behind them. I respect the skins secondary but they can be thrown on and I'm sure Dallas will. All in all I was not overly impressed with either team.
 

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CowboyWay;1652850 said:
We'll put 30 on either one of these teams. And both these teams need 2 games to score 30 points.
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.
 

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Doomsday101;1653671 said:
I think Dallas will be able to pass on them. I saw guys open lastnight and McNabb just over threw them or threw behind them. I respect the skins secondary but they can be thrown on and I'm sure Dallas will. All in all I was not overly impressed with either team.
plus our WR's are more talented than Phillys and can get open...
 

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DallasDW00ds0n;1653689 said:
plus our WR's are more talented than Phillys and can get open...

And our QB is more talented. Dallas has the offensive weapons I think to give any team a hard time.
 

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firehawk350;1653681 said:
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.

Did you see the pass, Dude? He over threw him by 15 yards! Campbell has a strong arm, sure, but if he has no accuracy then what good is he? He kinda reminds me of Quincy Carter, but without the wheels.
 

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TunaFan33;1653142 said:
I'm sure Gibbs will take it one game at a time. If I had to take a guess...

Giants - W
Lions - W
@Packers - L
Cards - W
I'm not sure I'd pick the Skins to beat the Giants. The Commanders will have a hard time blocking Strahan with Jansen and Thomas out. The key will be how well Campbell can hit Moss if he has time and doesn't overthrow him. The Giants played us well in Dallas. They aren't that bad of a team.
 

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DallasDW00ds0n;1652808 said:
Doesnt it seem as if both the Commanders and Eagles are missing something?

both look beatable.

The entire NFC, including the Cowboys, looks very beatable at this moment. Philly has a problem in that their WR's can't get off of jams and when they do, McNabb can't deliver the ball. But the bigger problem is Reid is dumb enough to keep passing the ball with an injured QB who was clearly off all night. Skins looked alright. They probably won't blow out many teams given their style of play, but that was a pretty well coached game by Gibbs.





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Doomsday101;1653697 said:
And our QB is more talented. Dallas has the offensive weapons I think to give any team a hard time.

The good news for Dallas is they are 2-0 and played the Fins (only common opponent with Washington) far better than Washington did. Take that and they are doing it w/o 4 key players as well. If they can get Glenn, Newman, and Ellis somewhere near to their old selves, they should be dramatically better. And I think it's safe to say at this moment Romo is the best QB in the NFC East. If they can beat the Bears on Sunday, the Cowboys will be really tough to beat for the division.




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firehawk350;1653681 said:
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.

How do you spin Bugel's reaction to that overthrown pass?

I'd like to hear your take?

You could tell he was VERY frustrated.
 

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He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.
 

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firehawk350;1653780 said:
He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.


what do you think was going through Bugel's mind.... He was about to blow a gasket!:laugh2:
 

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firehawk350;1653780 said:
He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.

And if my uncle had boobs he would be my aunt. If that pass had bounced off a seagull and dropped into Moss' arms it would have been a 70 yd. TD.

And you have to be insane to say he will never miss that pass again!

After watching Campbell play, I would say the Commanders are still looking for a QB. He is not going to be anything special.
 

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A lot of people disagree with you and not just Commanders fans. But I didn't mean to say he won't ever miss that pass again, I meant to say he will connect on it more often then he misses. It's clear he's still getting settled into the offense.
 

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AtlCB;1653744 said:
I'm not sure I'd pick the Skins to beat the Giants. The Commanders will have a hard time blocking Strahan with Jansen and Thomas out. The key will be how well Campbell can hit Moss if he has time and doesn't overthrow him. The Giants played us well in Dallas. They aren't that bad of a team.

I agree and add to it the Giants will be fighting for their lives. They don't want to go 0-3 to start the season and I'm sure they will come out very fired up in this game
 

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Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what! :confused:

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

:confused:
 
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