Eagles have plans to move on with out T.O.

[Merlin]

Oh my... you have things so skewed it isn't even funny. You make Owens to be some kind of martyr. Owens threw McNabb under the bus. McNabb didn't throw him. The only reason Owens came back was to play in the Super Bowl. If Owens really wanted to play, he would have played the other games too.

Is that why he sat out of the Pro Bowl?

Give me a break. Owens is a clown. McNabb played his heart out in that game but it just wasn't good enough. Owens failed just as much as he did. Owens had no right to blame a single person for an unsuccessful team effort.

Give me a damn break.

You said I have things skewed? Whatever. McNabb played his heart? Give me a damn break on that one. Someone needs a timeout. Sitting out the Pro Bowl. Big deal!!! Your whole post is a joke. Take off the rose colored glasses. I never made Owens out to be a martyr but I recounted the facts, something you chose to ignore.

 

[silverbear]

I side with the Eagles on this and applaud their firm stance against Owens. If he were, say, three years into his contract, I might feel differently. But having just signed a new deal one off-season ago, I think it's ridiculous to be demanding a new contract so quickly.

It feels weird applauding the Iggles, but I do heartily agree with their stance on this one... and I solemnly vow not to taunt any Iggles trolls with this in the future...

 

[silverbear]

That POS came back from an injury far faster than anyone had predicted and nearly won the Superbowl for them. That game isn't as close without TO. He risked permanent injury to come back that fast. He certainly has alot of baggage but you have to give credit when it is due. Had McNabb not faltered down the stretch, The Eagles probably would have won the big one. He's a cancer thats for sure but he's one of those that you gamble on, he's a playmaker.

None of which justifies his attempts to extort more money from the team, when he freely chose to sign that contract last year...

 

[Merlin]

None of which justifies his attempts to extort more money from the team, when he freely chose to sign that contract last year...

That wasnt the point obviously.

 

[jman]

See, I think the whole TO thing is a shame. He has so much heart on the field -- he leaves everything he has out there. Remember that game-winning playoff touchdown against Young's Niners, and the tears afterward? Or playing with the broken leg last year?

He reminds me a lot of Barry Bonds. Everything he does on the field is untouchable, but he's just such a full-of-himself prick off the field, that no one can stand him. Neither Bonds nor Owens seem to ever be in the news for actually doing anything "wrong" -- crimes, in other words -- so they're not the menaces to society that they're billed as because of their poor attitudes.

But still, it's just a shame IMO. Because if Owens just ever came across as a nice guy once in a whilie publicly, he'd probably be the most well liked player in the league due to what he does on the field. But because he's a prick, he gets more negative press than the true criminals in the league.

I just can't understand why he's so mad all the time. He seems to have a great life, is great at what he does, and has family around him that cares (such as his grandma). I wish he wouldn't take himself so seriously off the field (like calling Garcia gay). He clearly does that on the field (all the silly celebrations), why can't he do it off?

Not saying he doesn't have heart on the field, but that Niners TD catch was about the only thing he caught all day...He dropped almost everything thrown at him before that. That's why it was so suprising when it happened. Hense the "He caught it, he caught it!!!" being screamed out afterwards.

Oh, and I heard on ESPN radio last week that his contract was basically a two year deal, that would have let him out of his contract and set him up to redo a deal with the Eagles or maybe given him UFA status. He just couldn't wait...What a chump.

 

[cwbyfan72]

Go Eagles

funny

 

[KDWilliams85]

You said I have things skewed? Whatever. McNabb played his heart? Give me a damn break on that one. Someone needs a timeout. Sitting out the Pro Bowl. Big deal!!! Your whole post is a joke. Take off the rose colored glasses. I never made Owens out to be a martyr but I recounted the facts, something you chose to ignore.

I stand by my statement. Owens did the same thing to Garcia when he left the 49ers. He threw Garcia under the bus and made it out to be about himself. When the Eagles lost, Owens made comments about how it was all McNabb's fault. About how McNabb was playing sick... about how McNabb let the team down... about how McNabb didn't throw to him enough... starting to sound a little familiar? Same ol' T.O. but with a different quarterback. McNabb wasn't the only one to let the team down on Super Bowl Sunday. Owens contributed equally... if not moreso... than McNabb.

Now... he's throwing McNabb under the bus again by holding out and wanting a better contract or forcing a trade. That's exactly why he left San Francisco. I don't blame him for wanting to leave because they weren't doing well... still aren't. He's dogging McNabb by not being the team player he claims to be. When it comes down to the heart of the matter, T.O. is all about himself. He's forcing McNabb to take the team on his shoulders like he always did and run with it. Owens was just that missing link in their Super Bowl chain. McNabb was the one that got them there.

I need a timeout? Damn, boy... someone needs to come out of the kindergarten stage and realize that propaganda is a big no-no.

 

[JakeCamp12]

The thing that is truly going to hurt TO in all of this is, Andy Reid does not value having a stud wide out. He believes anyone that can learn his systeme can be a big time player, I.E. Todd Pinkston. If you read any of his older comments on wide outs, he always says Sterling Sharpe caught a ton of passes in Green Bay but they could not get to the Super Bowl with him catching over 100 balls. He believes that to get to the Super Bowl you need to spread the ball all over the field. If TO comes to camp and mopes and pouts, he will be going the way of Freddie Mitchell. I really don't believe that Reid wanted TO in Philly. I think he may have been forced to take him. Don't be surprised if TO is cut or traded. I truly believe by TO showing up Reid and McNabb, that the Eagles management is dug in and I don't see TO swallowing his pride to go back.

 

[Yeagermeister]

TO will never be happy until the ball is thrown to him on every play and he'll never take the blame for anything. It is always someone else's fault not TO's.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I side with the Eagles on this and applaud their firm stance against Owens. If he were, say, three years into his contract, I might feel differently. But having just signed a new deal one off-season ago, I think it's ridiculous to be demanding a new contract so quickly.

I agree.

I seen this morning where Hines Ward has talked about holding out of camp for a new contract.

Difference is he has always been a team player, he wanted a new contract last year but still played, he is in his last year of his contract and finally he is being paid as the 37th best WR right now.

Imagine that....hines ward is being paid as the 37th WR currently and in his last year of his contract, wanted a new contract last year but went ahead and played anyways.

Now compare that to T.O. who is already being paid as one of the top WRs in the league and wanting a new contract after one year and has held out till now but also has made it known that although he will report to camp he will not be happy about his situation.
Now imagine him not being happy and how he has acted in the past when not happy.

So I can see Hines Ward in the last year of his contract when he is arguably in the top 5-10 WRs in the leauge being paid as the 37th best.....I can not see T.O. who is only in his second year of his contract and already being paid in the top 2-3 of the league in WR pay.

 

[Hoov]

I agree.

I seen this morning where Hines Ward has talked about holding out of camp for a new contract.

Difference is he has always been a team player, he wanted a new contract last year but still played, he is in his last year of his contract and finally he is being paid as the 37th best WR right now.

Imagine that....hines ward is being paid as the 37th WR currently and in his last year of his contract, wanted a new contract last year but went ahead and played anyways.

Now compare that to T.O. who is already being paid as one of the top WRs in the league and wanting a new contract after one year and has held out till now but also has made it known that although he will report to camp he will not be happy about his situation.
Now imagine him not being happy and how he has acted in the past when not happy.

So I can see Hines Ward in the last year of his contract when he is arguably in the top 5-10 WRs in the leauge being paid as the 37th best.....I can not see T.O. who is only in his second year of his contract and already being paid in the top 2-3 of the league in WR pay.

Good Points Brain, i'm wondering how many teams would want to trade for Owens at this point.

 

[dargonking999]

Good Points Brain, i'm wondering how many teams would want to trade for Owens at this point.

only the ones that

A- need a WR realy badly

B- Have the cap room

C- Are really desperate for a WR


And well that about 0/32 so i really dont see him getting traded

 

[Hoov]

only the ones that

A- need a WR realy badly

B- Have the cap room

C- Are really desperate for a WR


And well that about 0/32 so i really dont see him getting traded

Me either. Seems like there's quite a bit of turmoil in eagles camp. Now C Simon holding out. I bet we see several players not in their best shape when the season starts. I just have a feeling this year is going to be a rough one for the eagles. Last year they started on a high, after signing TO and Kearse and having the team mostly healthy, they breezed through most of the reg season games. This year i think they find themselves in some real dogfights to win games and i wonder how the team will respond, cause right now it seems team unity not so good, what happens if they start losing a few games early on.

 

[kartr]

I agree Merlin,
The team from filthy is no where near as good without him...But I understand their side...

Me three. If TO doesn't play for them this year and don't win the superbowl now or in the next few years, they'll look pretty foolish for letting the opportunity to win a superbowl slip away. I would make an allowance for TO this once because of the way he came back and contributed after the injury. No way they win anything with those other receivers, it's like cutting off your nose to prove how tough you are. Peter King says TO is a top ten talent in the NFL, yet thought he should honor his deal. Peter is an old school guy, but me thinks he is an old school fool. He is always on the side of management, right or wrong.

 

[kartr]

See, I think the whole TO thing is a shame. He has so much heart on the field -- he leaves everything he has out there. Remember that game-winning playoff touchdown against Young's Niners, and the tears afterward? Or playing with the broken leg last year?

He reminds me a lot of Barry Bonds. Everything he does on the field is untouchable, but he's just such a full-of-himself prick off the field, that no one can stand him. Neither Bonds nor Owens seem to ever be in the news for actually doing anything "wrong" -- crimes, in other words -- so they're not the menaces to society that they're billed as because of their poor attitudes.

But still, it's just a shame IMO. Because if Owens just ever came across as a nice guy once in a whilie publicly, he'd probably be the most well liked player in the league due to what he does on the field. But because he's a prick, he gets more negative press than the true criminals in the league.

I just can't understand why he's so mad all the time. He seems to have a great life, is great at what he does, and has family around him that cares (such as his grandma). I wish he wouldn't take himself so seriously off the field (like calling Garcia gay). He clearly does that on the field (all the silly celebrations), why can't he do it off?

You sound so young and idealistic, but you'll see things a lot different in 10-15 years of hard knocks. The NFL is a business first,but from both sides. TO knows he doesn't have many more years to play and simply wants to get all he can while he can play at this level. If his injury would have been career ending, they would have cut him quicker than you can say TO,just like Taylor and Vincent. The Eagles don't have any sense of loyalty to their players. Nfl contracts are virtually meaningless since they're one way deals.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Eagles are among the NFL's most valuable franchises. Their value has jumped more than 50% over the past two years.

Philadelphia Eagles
Franchise value $833 million
Value rank Fifth
Total revenue $198 million
EBITDA* $44 million
Ad/sponsor revenue $23 million
Premium seat revenue $38 million
Lincoln Financial ($140 million)

 

[kartr]

I know this would NEVER happen, but I would love Philly to cut him & have NO team pick him up. Sort of like when baseball had collusion (1980's). BUT, since he is too good of a player, he would have teams lined up for him. It is a shame too because he is an idiot (albiet a very talented player on the field though).

Let him play in Canada. That will bring down his ego a tad bit.

I hate the Eagles but I am firmly on their side on this matter. Hopefully, it tears apart their team.

I think that's the most honest post I've heard about TO here today,except that you should have said that you're on their side because you think TO's holdout will tear their team apart which will help us.

 

[ravidubey]

Does anyone know exactly what T.O.'s current contract looks like? People keep throwing around that $49 million number and that p#$$es me off because we all know that number is artificial.

He got a $7 million bonus and $3 million in salary, right? What's his salary this year? How does it compare with other WR's?

If it's a crappy contract then T.O. has a right to complain. NFL contracts favor the teams so much it's wrong to even call them contracts.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Does anyone know exactly what T.O.'s current contract looks like? People keep throwing around that $49 million number and that p#$$es me off because we all know that number is artificial.

He got a $7 million bonus and $3 million in salary, right? What's his salary this year? How does it compare with other WR's?

If it's a crappy contract then T.O. has a right to complain. NFL contracts favor the teams so much it's wrong to even call them contracts.

If it is a crappy contract then T.O. has a right to complain?

Gee he just signed the thing last year why should he complain?

It was not like he just signed a rookie contract slotted for a 2nd round pick and then blew away the amount of money he was making compared to the numbers he put up.
It is not like he is hines ward who is one of the top WRs in the game but getting paid like he is the 37th best WR in the league.

T.O. by all accounts is getting paid already as one of the top picks in the league.

Problem is these guys want large signing bonuses and get them, but then complain about the regular salary they make as if it is too small....problem with that is if it were not for the large signing bonuses (guarenteed money) the yearly salary would be much larger.

 

[adbutcher]

Go TO!