Eagles Offense Struggled in Pre-season

[Yakuza Rich]

You don't need a great defense, but typically it's got to be very good at not allowing points.

From 1983 to 2005, no team that *made it to* the Super Bowl finished outside the top 8 in points allowed.

In 2006, the Colts broke that streak, but that's when Bob Sanders was injured up until right before the playoffs. 2007 the G-Men made it while finishing outside the top 8, but they were also the biggest underdogs in SB history. 2008 the Cardinals made finishing outside the top 8. While the Colts didn't have a stupendous defense in '09, the did finish in the top 8 in points allowed. However, the Saints did not (20th).

Perhaps the game is starting to change, but I'd be a little averse to claiming that right now. I still think the defense has to do a pretty good job of holding teams from scoring points, unless they have a really good offense of their own.





YR

 

[YosemiteSam]

You don't need a great defense, but typically it's got to be very good at not allowing points.

From 1983 to 2005, no team that *made it to* the Super Bowl finished outside the top 8 in points allowed.

In 2006, the Colts broke that streak, but that's when Bob Sanders was injured up until right before the playoffs. 2007 the G-Men made it while finishing outside the top 8, but they were also the biggest underdogs in SB history. 2008 the Cardinals made finishing outside the top 8. While the Colts didn't have a stupendous defense in '09, the did finish in the top 8 in points allowed. However, the Saints did not (20th).

Perhaps the game is starting to change, but I'd be a little averse to claiming that right now. I still think the defense has to do a pretty good job of holding teams from scoring points, unless they have a really good offense of their own.





YR

As for the anomaly of the Saints making it to the Superbowl with the 20th ranked defense scoring wise. I think it was a combination of a high scoring offense teamed with a defense that produced a lot of turnovers. I believe the Saints were second in the league last year in +/- turnover ratio.

 

[joseephuss]

Who voted on this though? I don't like ostracism.

The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went **** up.

 

[Picksix]

Kevin Kolb played 6 quarters of football and never threw a TD pass. The Eagles were in the Redzone 6 times and scored only 1 TD.

Yet we never heard anything about it.

Note, I am not changing my tune and saying the pre-season matters. I am simply wondering why once again the discussion is not balanced. Aaron Rodgers is being hyped as one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL despite the fact he has not won a post season game. Don't get me wrong, I think he is top 5.

I just wonder if the playing field is not supposed to be balanced and I never got the memo.

Two reasons, I believe. One, outside of Philly, nobody gives a **** about Philly. Two, Andy Reid always seems to get a pass, because of the "offensive genius" that he is. Apparently, struggling in the preseason is no big deal, because everyone knows he'll crank it up for the regular season. Kinda like how everyone knew he would make the necessary adjustments between the two Dallas games at the end of last year.

 

[anava]

What happens when the owner is always pimping his team in the media and loves attention good or bad. When you have a weakness people are going to be quick to point it out. When people argue over who is America's Team, I think you still can't take it away from the Cowboys because America is all about Hollywood and that's what the Cowboys are.

 

[bbgun]

The media hates the Cowboys, remember?

Well, when you win five Super Bowls and embrace the "America's Team" tag, you're gonna get the lion's share of attention--good and bad.

 

[gbrittain]

I wonder what people would say about Romo if the Cowboys season would have ended because of him getting hit and then fumbling the ball away for a TD.

Lets also not forget that he did not get blindsided, Rodgers was looking exactly the same direction the defensive player came from.

 

[FLcowboy]

I heard plenty of discussion about Philly's struggles scoring TDs in preseason but since I'm the only member of the Zone that watches ESPN I'm probably the only one that saw it.

YOU watch ESPN? Wow!

 

[Wimbo]

Kevin Kolb played 6 quarters of football and never threw a TD pass. The Eagles were in the Redzone 6 times and scored only 1 TD.

Yet we never heard anything about it.

Note, I am not changing my tune and saying the pre-season matters. I am simply wondering why once again the discussion is not balanced. Aaron Rodgers is being hyped as one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL despite the fact he has not won a post season game. Don't get me wrong, I think he is top 5.

I just wonder if the playing field is not supposed to be balanced and I never got the memo.

Also, the Commanders have 1) New Coaches; 2) New Offensive system; 3) New Defensive system; 4) New QB (who is learning a new system); and 5) Not just a new Defensive system, but a whole new format in moving to the 3-4. Yet some mediots are calling for Washington to win the NFC East. When Dallas has changed any one of these things in the past, we have been written of as "rebuilding"

 

[Screw The Hall]

Also, the Commanders have 1) New Coaches; 2) New Offensive system; 3) New Defensive system; 4) New QB (who is learning a new system); and 5) Not just a new Defensive system, but a whole new format in moving to the 3-4. Yet some mediots are calling for Washington to win the NFC East. When Dallas has changed any one of these things in the past, we have been written of as "rebuilding"

That is so true.

 

[bayeslife]

Possibly. But not on ESPN or NFL Network.

Oh, I'm an avid listener to 610 WIP Philadelphia for all my sporting goods on the Phillies and Flyers. Then when Eagles discussion comes up, it becomes comic relief for the day.

It's definitely been talked about, but everyone is in agreement that it's just preseason.

A difficult concept for some people to grasp.

 

[YosemiteSam]

One thing I've seen recently, is a lot of first year coaches produce great first season results. Shanny could do the same with the Commanders.

Of course, the second year team doesn't play quite as well.

This is why I think Rex Ryan isn't going to be all that happy with the outcome of this season.

Here is a list of coaches that had great first years and either dropped off the next season or are starting their junior season this year.

• Bill Parcels (Cowboys)
• Wade Phillips (Cowboys)
• Eric Mangini (Jets)
• Rex Ryan (Jets)
• Tony Soprano (Dolphins)
• Jim Harbaugh (Ravens)
• Mike Smith (Falcons)
• Herm Edwards (Jets and Chiefs)
• Jim Mora (Falcons)

There are others too. (Rex Ryan is in blue due to him not playing his second season yet)

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Kevin Kolb played 6 quarters of football and never threw a TD pass. The Eagles were in the Redzone 6 times and scored only 1 TD.

Yet we never heard anything about it.

Note, I am not changing my tune and saying the pre-season matters. I am simply wondering why once again the discussion is not balanced. Aaron Rodgers is being hyped as one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL despite the fact he has not won a post season game. Don't get me wrong, I think he is top 5.

I just wonder if the playing field is not supposed to be balanced and I never got the memo.

No one cares about whats going on in Philly. Thats why you don't hear that same stuff about them cause they're not important.

You knew this already though.