Eagle's Offense Vs. Cowboy's Defense

[Gryphon]

Eagle's Offense Vs. Cowboy's Defense
by Bednarik60 (Eagle fan) from another forum

Going into 2007 there are two clear favorites to win the NFC EAST , The Cowboys and The Eagles. Instead of starting a clear debate on who will be Overall better and Win the NFC , i chose to go another path and wanted to Highlight and compare each teams strengths. The Eagles offense is one of the premier in the league, The Eagles get back there offensive leader Mcnabb and added the best free agent wide reciever available in Curtis and added some much needed Power in the backfield with Hunt and Ilaoa. The Cowboys Deffense will be bringing pressure under new defensive minded Wade Phillips, who turned The Chargers from girls to Savages, he loves to bring the Blitz and now with added LB/DE Spender another powerful prospect to there already stacked front seven, they also landed a steal IMPO in C.Brown in this years Draft and Added a hard nosed safety in Hamlin to help last years suffering pass defense. I posted both teams 2006 stats of there respect strength The 2006 Eagles Offensive stats and The 2006 Cowboys Defensive Stats.

2006 Eagles Offensive Stats
Eagles Passing Offense: 544 att 323 cmp for 4,119 yards, 31 TD's and only 9 int and we were sacked 28 times

Eagles Rushing Offense: 416 att 1984 yard for 106 first downs 4.8 avg per carry and 13 td's

2007 Transactions
Notable Offensive Additions:
RB Tony Hunt
WR Kevin Curtis
RB/FB Nate Ilaoa

Notable Offensive Subtractions:
QB Jeff Garcia
WR Donte Stallworth


2006 Cowboys Defensive Stats
Cowboys Passing Defense: 511 atts by opposing teams, for 301 completions and 3506 yards 25 td's , Cowboys produced 18 Int and 34 sacks


Cowboys Rushing Defense: 429 att by opposing teams for 1659 yards , 88 first downs at 3.9 avg a carry and 12 TD's

2007 Transactions
Notable Defensive Additions:
S Ken Hamlin
LB/DE Anthony Spencer
CB Courtney Brown

Notable Defensive Subtractions:
DE Kenyon Coleman
LB Ryan Fowler

Will The Eagles Offense Out Play The Cowboys Defense or Will The Cowboys Defense Outplay the Eagles Offense??
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[CowboysRule]

I think a better comparison would be the Eagles D against our O. OUr D was terrible at the end of the year and should be undergoing large changes so just looking at stats wont tell you anything really.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think a better comparison would be the Eagles D against our O. OUr D was terrible at the end of the year and should be undergoing large changes so just looking at stats wont tell you anything really.

its all about matchups. thats why i have always hated comparing two teams position by position.

if a teams tackles are good and the opponents end are not then it doesnt matter if that teams ends are better. the tackles will still win the matchup,

 

[The30YardSlant]

How is the Eagles offense going to be elite? They lost their only "go to" WR, and McChunky the eternal puss is back at QB, not to mention two of their 3 best linemen have injury concerns

 

[Benni]

How is the Eagles offense going to be elite? They lost their only "go to" WR, and McChunky the eternal puss is back at QB, not to mention two of their 3 best linemen have injury concerns

That's the feeling I have as well... somehow it seems the eagles gotta be lucky to avoid injuries and we all know the odds are against all teams as is. I'm a little surprised so many 'experts' have the eagles rather so high in rankings.

 

[TheSport78]

Eagle's Offense Vs. Cowboy's Defense
by Bednarik60 (Eagle fan) from another forum

Going into 2007 there are two clear favorites to win the NFC EAST , The Cowboys and The Eagles. Instead of starting a clear debate on who will be Overall better and Win the NFC , i chose to go another path and wanted to Highlight and compare each teams strengths. The Eagles offense is one of the premier in the league, The Eagles get back there offensive leader Mcnabb and added the best free agent wide reciever available in Curtis and added some much needed Power in the backfield with Hunt and Ilaoa. The Cowboys Deffense will be bringing pressure under new defensive minded Wade Phillips, who turned The Chargers from girls to Savages, he loves to bring the Blitz and now with added LB/DE Spender another powerful prospect to there already stacked front seven, they also landed a steal IMPO in C.Brown in this years Draft and Added a hard nosed safety in Hamlin to help last years suffering pass defense. I posted both teams 2006 stats of there respect strength The 2006 Eagles Offensive stats and The 2006 Cowboys Defensive Stats.

2006 Eagles Offensive Stats
Eagles Passing Offense: 544 att 323 cmp for 4,119 yards, 31 TD's and only 9 int and we were sacked 28 times

Eagles Rushing Offense: 416 att 1984 yard for 106 first downs 4.8 avg per carry and 13 td's

2007 Transactions
Notable Offensive Additions:
RB Tony Hunt
WR Kevin Curtis
RB/FB Nate Ilaoa

Notable Offensive Subtractions:
QB Jeff Garcia
WR Donte Stallworth


2006 Cowboys Defensive Stats
Cowboys Passing Defense: 511 atts by opposing teams, for 301 completions and 3506 yards 25 td's , Cowboys produced 18 Int and 34 sacks


Cowboys Rushing Defense: 429 att by opposing teams for 1659 yards , 88 first downs at 3.9 avg a carry and 12 TD's

2007 Transactions
Notable Defensive Additions:
S Ken Hamlin
LB/DE Anthony Spencer
CB Courtney Brown

Notable Defensive Subtractions:
DE Kenyon Coleman
LB Ryan Fowler

Will The Eagles Offense Out Play The Cowboys Defense or Will The Cowboys Defense Outplay the Eagles Offense??
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I stopped reading right there when he said Curtis was the best available FA WR. IMO the best FA WR was Donte Stallworth, ironically who the Iggles lost.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I stopped reading right there when he said Curtis was the best available FA WR. IMO the best FA WR was Donte Stallworth, ironically who the Iggles lost.

Perhaps you should have kept reading!

The Eagles didn't lose Stallworth ...they sent the multiple rehab WR out the front door. Injured during the majority of the 2006 season, he was sent to drug rehab for help. Apparently, he did not show significant improvement with either. We'll see what he does for the Pats this year.

 

[dmq]

Perhaps you should have kept reading!

The Eagles didn't lose Stallworth ...they sent the multiple rehab WR out the front door. Injured during the majority of the 2006 season, he was sent to drug rehab for help. Apparently, he did not show significant improvement with either. We'll see what he does for the Pats this year.

Maybe, but he was by far the biggest threat WR you had on the roster.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Maybe, but he was by far the biggest threat WR you had on the roster.

Perhaps not. Haven't looked at the numbers, but Basket and Brown weren't too shabby either. Allow us a chance at Curtis before we start the 2006 chatter all over again. You remember that don't you? Many fans here were under the impression that Stallworth was a number 2 WR at very best ...now, after he's come and gone, you're saying things like ..."he was the biggest threat" ...

I'm keeping my eyes on Stallworth as he learns the patriots playbook along with Moss.

 

[Stash]

Perhaps you should have kept reading!

The Eagles didn't lose Stallworth ...they sent the multiple rehab WR out the front door. Injured during the majority of the 2006 season, he was sent to drug rehab for help. Apparently, he did not show significant improvement with either. We'll see what he does for the Pats this year.

Bzzt!!!!

Wrong as usual.

The fact is that the Eagles did lose Stallworth.

They jerked him around with contract offers just like they've done before.

In turn, he put the screws to them by signing a lesser deal with New England.

Nice try.

 

[TheSport78]

Stallworth was having a very good season before McNabb went down, while Curtis has never been more than a #3 WR. I think it's jumping the gun to say Curtis is better than Stallworth when Curtis has NEVER assumed the role of a #1 WR before. Apparantly Stallworth was good enough to receive a fat contract from New England...

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Bzzt!!!!
Wrong as usual. The fact is that the Eagles did lose Stallworth.
They jerked him around with contract offers just like they've done before.
In turn, he put the screws to them by signing a lesser deal with New England.
Nice try.

I'm not "trying" anything stasheroo. By your own words, ...jerking him around with inferior contract offers (as you call it) ...is nothing more than a procurement office nonchalantly showing a player the front door. As for the Patriots signing Stallworth to a lesser deal ...believe Stallworth got a nice chunk of change in that transaction.

Stallworth couldn't put the screws to the Eagles no more than Quincy Carter put the screws to the Cowboys a couple of years or so ago. The GM decided he was not worth the risk ...that's all there was.

Now, I've got to tell you ...that's how I see it. In all fairness, you can see it any way you'd like.

 

[Vintage]

Am I losing my mind?

I could have sworn I made a post in here. Or did I hit the back button and not hit submit?

Edit: Nope, I am just an idiot.

Sweet.

 

[Stash]

I'm not "trying" anything stasheroo. By your own words, ...jerking him around with inferior contract offers (as you call it) ...is nothing more than a procurement office nonchalantly showing a player the front door. As for the Patriots signing Stallworth to a lesser deal ...believe Stallworth got a nice chunk of change in that transaction.

Sorry, spin-control, you buy that nonsense, but don't try to sell it here. The team made offers to a player and he signed elsewhere - they lost him. They immediately ran and signed the last player they had in for a vist - #3 receiver Kevin Curtis - and now the blind masses like you will trumpet it as the latest ingenious move.

And Stallworth signed for what amounts to a 1 year deal with the Patriots for less money than what the Eagles offered.

Stallworth couldn't put the screws to the Eagles no more than Quincy Carter put the screws to the Cowboys a couple of years or so ago. The GM decided he was not worth the risk ...that's all there was.[/quiote]

Apples and oranges Junior. Carter was get this - cut - because his baggage outweighed his worth. Stallowrth was a free agent that the Eagles tried and failed to sign.

Now, I've got to tell you ...that's how I see it. In all fairness, you can see it any way you'd like.

Like I've said, there's your version - and then there's reality. Too bad for you that you can't see the difference. Just try to keep the 'spin' over on the Eagles board.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Honestly, the Eagles matchup with our defense scares me. The Eagles are adept at spreading out 3-4 WR's wide in a base package and still have an athletic TE to run down the middle of the seam. That means you can't get away with a 3 man secondary with one of your safeties playing like a glorified linebacker. Roy has to cover somebody, and probably somebody a lot more athletic than him. Philly also has an absolutely mammoth OL which will give you problems if you try to overcompensate with extra DB's. Especially now that they got a power compliment to Westbrook in Hunt. Hunt is also a surprisingly good receiver out of the backfield, so you can't automatically assume that they're going to run the ball just because they have their big back in.

 

[Stash]

That's the area of the Eagles' offense that scares me - the running game. Despite Reid's best efforts, Mohrnengwig (sp?) was able to show that the team has a good line and could have a solid running game. Their late-season resurgance was directly tied to their running the ball as much as anything Garcia did.

If they stick with that plan, they could be tough to deal with.

As a Cowboys fan, I'm hoping the combination of the crybaby's return and Reid's infatuation with his passing game will undo what they learned last year.

 

[DallasEast]

I'm not "trying" anything stasheroo. By your own words, ...jerking him around with inferior contract offers (as you call it) ...is nothing more than a procurement office nonchalantly showing a player the front door. As for the Patriots signing Stallworth to a lesser deal ...believe Stallworth got a nice chunk of change in that transaction.

Stallworth couldn't put the screws to the Eagles no more than Quincy Carter put the screws to the Cowboys a couple of years or so ago. The GM decided he was not worth the risk ...that's all there was.

Now, I've got to tell you ...that's how I see it. In all fairness, you can see it any way you'd like.

Another spin master:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-NGH70_lQk

 

[flashback]

If the Eagles really do dedicate themselves to the running game, they're going to be extremely tough to beat. A couple of concerns might be guys like Runyan and Thomas slowing down a bit. But I think Andrews could take over either of those spots and play at a very high level, and they might be able to plug in a guard off the bench and still be a really good OL.

Brown and Baskett aren't the pathetic weaklings they used to run at there at WR, and Cowboys know better than most that LJ Smith can actually be a very effective weapon if they need him. They'd probably like him to be more consistent, but he's talented, and put together a very nice season last year.

On D, the Cowboys look pretty deep and talented. We'll have to see who actually ends up on the starting 11 before we can too specific here, but we have every reason to think there will be a lot of pressure on the QB, blitzing even on running downs, and aggressiveness in trying to dictate to the offense. I think Phillips defense is much more high-risk/high-reward than what we're used to in Dallas, so we might see a lot of sacks, INTs, stops behind the line of scrimmage, and 80-yard touchdowns on draw plays or screen passes. It may come down to whether or not the D can force McNabb into a few mistakes, like his TD to Roy Williams in 2005.

Also, when playing an offense the caliber of the Eagles, the first thing you want to do is keep them off the field with a good offense, and put them in bad field position when they do get the ball. If Davis upgrades the running game and Romo is still completing 65% of his passes (or better), the Cowboys may succeed in putting the Eagles in pass-first situations, and then we could really turn loose the pass rush.

I can't wait. I think they're going to be 2 very tough games next year.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Sorry, spin-control, you buy that nonsense, but don't try to sell it here. The team made offers to a player and he signed elsewhere - they lost him.

Huh!? Spin this ...

FOWLER TERRITORY
Source: LES BOWEN bowenl
@phillynews.com
DONTÉ STALLWORTH and Ryan Fowler both agreed to terms with NFL teams yesterday, and the Eagles seem to have snagged the one who will make the most money in 2007. That isn't Stallworth, much to the displeasure of fans who enjoyed the 26-year-old wideout's game-breaking speed in his lone season with the Birds. No, as expected, Stallworth signed with the New England Patriots, agreeing to a complex contract that multiple reports say will pay $3.6 million this year.

Published on 2007-03-12, Page 102, Philadelphia Daily News (PA)
Article 2 of 2; 663 words

Birds sign Cowboy to offer sheet
Source: Bob Brookover INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Linebacker Ryan Fowler will make more money next season than Dont Stallworth, and - unlike Stallworth - he's going to get it from the Eagles.
On a day when Stallworth decided to accept a contract offer from the New England Patriots, the Eagles gave Fowler a four-year offer sheet worth $10.5 million, including $4 million for the 2007 season. Stallworth, meanwhile, got a six-year deal from the Patriots.

Published on 2007-03-12, Page D01, Philadelphia Inquirer, The (PA)

Couple of notes ...

We lost nothing ...we gained Fowler from the Cowboys!

Stallworth was (perhaps still is) ...damaged goods ...

Stallworth in NFL substance program Source: Bob Brookover INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Dont Stallworth, the Eagles' free-agent receiver, brought some baggage with him when he hit the NFL's open market Friday.


According to league sources, Stallworth is a participant in the NFL's substance-abuse program, which could subject him to a league suspension if he were to violate the terms of the program again. The circumstances and time frame that led to Stallworth's admittance to the program have not been disclosed, and the ...

Published on 2007-03-05, Page D01, Philadelphia Inquirer, The (PA)

Bottom line ...Stallworth was not a loss.

 

[BouncingCheese]

The Eggles' defense improved moreso by the West Coast offense working to perfection, by slowly eating up TOP and wearing out the opposing defense, rather than any personell or coaching changes; If you think about it, Mcnabb scored so fast that the defense had hardly any time to rest, and since the Eagles defensive success (which failed because of the injuries to key players like Kearse) is predicated on the linemen pressuring the qb, when they wore out, the defense struggled. Garcia gave the D time to heal.

Since Garcia is gone, and we now have the draconian style we played out the door, we really have nothing to compare except for when we play them this season.