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All drafted prominent QBs in 2016. The Eagles and the Rams moved on despite their QBs expending high draft capital. The Rams have won a SB since then and the Eagles are on the doorstep of their second in 5 years. Jerry on the other hand doesn't want to be wrong. He will ride Dak no matter what. He is stubborn and loyal to a fault. Jerry is someone you want as a friend but not as your team's GM.
 
Richmond Cowboy said:
All drafted prominent QBs in 2016. The Eagles and the Rams moved on despite their QBs expending high draft capital. The Rams have won a SB since then and the Eagles are on the doorstep of their second in 5 years. Jerry on the other hand doesn't want to be wrong. He will ride Dak no matter what. He is stubborn and loyal to a fault. Jerry is someone you want as a friend but not as your team's GM.
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That draft will go down as one of the worst QB drafts historically. If the Cowboys had rightly moved on when they should have, Dak would likely be backing up someone on another squad.
 
It's sad, all because we won't spend a first round pick on the most important position in football. The Bengals went from a joke, to may end up going to back to back Superbowls
 
The Eagles and Rams actually BUILT A TEAM around their qbs. They didn't cheap out in free agency. I'd love to know what a rookie is going to come in and do when he has to rely on a kicker that completely melts in the playoffs... how about an FO that trades away his best wide receiver for a 5th rounder. How about a FO that lets a ton of talent walk away and replaces it with cheap bargain bin options?

The reality is that the front office will scale down to mediocrity. If you have this awesome QB in here, he will never be able to get over the hump because that lets Stephen Jones cheap out even more and let even more talent walk and put more of the burden on the QB.

We should have been going all in like the rams, 49ers and eagles. Those teams also don't stick with a coach who is underperforming for nearly a decade. Do you think they would have stuck with a Garrett for nearly as long as we did or even hired him in the first place?

Do you think a Kellen Moore would be here for long? Did you see the criteria that was used to hire Mike McCarthy? They liked him at a sleepover?

What other franchise runs this way? All of the players have to cover up for the inadequacies and we keep blaming the players.

30 years of the SAME results tells us it goes far beyond the players including QB

Remember how Ware was 'washed up' and 'falling off' until he goes to Denver and wins a championship? Martellus Bennett was the problem until he goes to New England and wins a championship? If not for the refs cheating, Awuzie would have had a championship with Cincinnati. The culture here is the problem and swapping out players won't work.
 
The only team that AVOIDS drafting talented QB’s is the Cowboys. We’ve haven’t used a 1st, 2nd or 3rd on a QB in 22 years. Quincy was the last one.
 
kevm3 said:
The Eagles and Rams actually BUILT A TEAM around their qbs. They didn't cheap out in free agency. I'd love to know what a rookie is going to come in and do when he has to rely on a kicker that completely melts in the playoffs... how about an FO that trades away his best wide receiver for a 5th rounder. How about a FO that lets a ton of talent walk away and replaces it with cheap bargain bin options?

The reality is that the front office will scale down to mediocrity. If you have this awesome QB in here, he will never be able to get over the hump because that lets Stephen Jones cheap out even more and let even more talent walk and put more of the burden on the QB.

We should have been going all in like the rams, 49ers and eagles. Those teams also don't stick with a coach who is underperforming for nearly a decade. Do you think they would have stuck with a Garrett for nearly as long as we did or even hired him in the first place?

Do you think a Kellen Moore would be here for long? Did you see the criteria that was used to hire Mike McCarthy? They liked him at a sleepover?

What other franchise runs this way? All of the players have to cover up for the inadequacies and we keep blaming the players.

30 years of the SAME results tells us it goes far beyond the players including QB

Remember how Ware was 'washed up' and 'falling off' until he goes to Denver and wins a championship? Martellus Bennett was the problem until he goes to New England and wins a championship? If not for the refs cheating, Awuzie would have had a championship with Cincinnati. The culture here is the problem and swapping out players won't work.
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Sorry, but the Bengals went to the SB last year without an OL. A consistently great QB does make the difference
 
kevm3 said:
The Eagles and Rams actually BUILT A TEAM around their qbs. They didn't cheap out in free agency. I'd love to know what a rookie is going to come in and do when he has to rely on a kicker that completely melts in the playoffs... how about an FO that trades away his best wide receiver for a 5th rounder. How about a FO that lets a ton of talent walk away and replaces it with cheap bargain bin options?

The reality is that the front office will scale down to mediocrity. If you have this awesome QB in here, he will never be able to get over the hump because that lets Stephen Jones cheap out even more and let even more talent walk and put more of the burden on the QB.

We should have been going all in like the rams, 49ers and eagles. Those teams also don't stick with a coach who is underperforming for nearly a decade. Do you think they would have stuck with a Garrett for nearly as long as we did or even hired him in the first place?

Do you think a Kellen Moore would be here for long? Did you see the criteria that was used to hire Mike McCarthy? They liked him at a sleepover?

What other franchise runs this way? All of the players have to cover up for the inadequacies and we keep blaming the players.

30 years of the SAME results tells us it goes far beyond the players including QB

Remember how Ware was 'washed up' and 'falling off' until he goes to Denver and wins a championship? Martellus Bennett was the problem until he goes to New England and wins a championship? If not for the refs cheating, Awuzie would have had a championship with Cincinnati. The culture here is the problem and swapping out players won't work.
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I don't disagree with your post but on the other hand we have...

- Elite defense (got hurt by losing CB #2 and 3) but played championship level football.
- Great 1-2 punch at RB
- Good to great at times OL
- Good enough TE corps
- WR#1 is all pro caliber, the rest are scrubs.

This team that is around Dak should be good enough. Do they have to be elite at every level to have a chance?
 
Richmond Cowboy said:
All drafted prominent QBs in 2016. The Eagles and the Rams moved on despite their QBs expending high draft capital. The Rams have won a SB since then and the Eagles are on the doorstep of their second in 5 years. Jerry on the other hand doesn't want to be wrong. He will ride Dak no matter what. He is stubborn and loyal to a fault. Jerry is someone you want as a friend but not as your team's GM.
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Yup, Jerry is on a slot machine that he is sure is going to pay off after not paying out for so long. The odds are in his favor, he thinks.

The Eagles are a great analogy. They won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles, but realized Wentz was not the guy by 2020. They traded him for a 3rd and a 1st the following year. I find it hard to believe the Cowboys could not get a 1st round pick for Dak. The Cowboys don't need a great QB. They just need a QB with half a brain. Heck, I'd trade Dak at this point and see if Aaron Rodgers would like to play for a year or two. He may not be what he once was but he is smart and will not throw games away.
 
ChuckA1 said:
Sorry, but the Bengals went to the SB last year without an OL. A consistently great QB does make the difference
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And they might go again with already 3 original starting OL having been injured and a possible 4th unless he went out too because I did not watch the full ending to that game.
 
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Part of the issue is that moving on requires identifying QB talent and acquiring that player — and it also risks upending the annual “relevance” Romo and Prescott have afforded us. We might not advance past the divisional round, but boy, are we entertaining.

Look at the combined resources we invested in our last two “franchise” QBs: a single 4th round pick. No other franchise has tried to address QB in this fashion over that long of a stretch.
 
Creeper said:
Yup, Jerry is on a slot machine that he is sure is going to pay off after not paying out for so long. The odds are in his favor, he thinks.

The Eagles are a great analogy. They won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles, but realized Wentz was not the guy by 2020. They traded him for a 3rd and a 1st the following year. I find it hard to believe the Cowboys could not get a 1st round pick for Dak. The Cowboys don't need a great QB. They just need a QB with half a brain. Heck, I'd trade Dak at this point and see if Aaron Rodgers would like to play for a year or two. He may not be what he once was but he is smart and will not throw games away.
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I'm sure Rodgers would LOVE to reunite with McCarthy. :rolleyes:
 
That's what happens when the GM has no accountability, is his team's biggest fan and treats his players like clients.
 
texbumthelife said:
That draft will go down as one of the worst QB drafts historically. If the Cowboys had rightly moved on when they should have, Dak would likely be backing up someone on another squad.
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This makes no sense.

Goff has been to a super bowl and is on the right path in Detroit.

Dak has been highly successful in the league.

Wentz is garbage but all of you qb experts told us how great he was.
 
Richmond Cowboy said:
All drafted prominent QBs in 2016. The Eagles and the Rams moved on despite their QBs expending high draft capital. The Rams have won a SB since then and the Eagles are on the doorstep of their second in 5 years. Jerry on the other hand doesn't want to be wrong. He will ride Dak no matter what. He is stubborn and loyal to a fault. Jerry is someone you want as a friend but not as your team's GM.
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Well said!
 
Dak breaking his ankle and JJ giving him a fat contract after that was a terrible business decision.

Real GMs know how to move on even if it’s admitting a colossal mistake. JJ just can’t put his ego aside.
 
CanadianCowboysFan said:
kind of hard to pass on Burrow...
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So think about why we can never draft an elite QB? Jerry never wants to bottom out. Why did he keep Garrett for so long. He is ok with 8-8, 7-9, 10-6. As long as the Cowboys are on first take, FS1, he is 100% happy. He does not want to go 3-14. He would never let this team hit rock bottom and so here we are the past 15 years, really the past 28.
 
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