Early Predictions for 2006

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Gibbs II said:
It did Carson Palmer some good.


you can throw all your burgandy eggs in the Cambell basket if you like. I expect to see you here in a few years repenting and apoligizing for your mistakes.

Mentioning palmer and Cambell together is like me mentioning Henson and Palmer together makes no sense
 

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BigDFan5 said:
Ryan Leaf and Jason White won alot of awards in college, it did them alot of good didnt it


To compare Jason Campbell to either of those 2 guys is a joke

Leaf had no head on his shoulders and got thrust into a bad situation

Jason White did not have anywhere near the physical tools that Jason Campbell has

Come back with a much better argument there littedfan
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
To compare Jason Campbell to either of those 2 guys is a joke

Leaf had no head on his shoulders and got thrust into a bad situation

Jason White did not have anywhere near the physical tools that Jason Campbell has

Come back with a much better argument there littedfan


You talking college right> Jason White was FAR superior to Cambell in college. If you want to discuss facts let me know otherwise button your mouth .

littledfan how original did you think that up yourself or did you make a post on extreme asking people to elp you battle the mean Cowboys fans?
 

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BigDFan5 said:
You talking college right> Jason White was FAR superior to Cambell in college. If you want to discuss facts let me know otherwise button your mouth .

littledfan how original did you think that up yourself or did you make a post on extreme asking people to elp you battle the mean Cowboys fans?


Danny Wuerfall also had FAR superior stats in college when compared to QB's that were in school at the same time he was. Jake Plummer was in his draft. Who had better college numbers and who has had a better pro career?

How many QB's did Jake Delhomme out perform in college that didn't do squat in the pros?

The list can go on and on with this one. Timmy Chang had much better stats then Ben Rothlisberger. Come on guy, you can do better then that nonsense

Let me know when you wish to discuss facts
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
Danny Wuerfall also had FAR superior stats in college when compared to QB's that were in school at the same time he was. Jake Plummer was in his draft. Who had better college numbers and who has had a better pro career?

Let me know when you wish to discuss facts


Now your onto something then you agree college awards have nothing to do with the NFL and how a QB will perform therefore you agree that skinsfan26 is a complete and utter moron for even mentioning college awards like they mean something.


As for disucssing facts. One thing I learned on extremeskins is facts are not allowed when talking about the Commanders players.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
Now your onto something then you agree college awards have nothing to do with the NFL and how a QB will perform therefore you agree that skinsfan26 is a complete and utter moron for even mentioning college awards like they mean something.


As for disucssing facts. One thing I learned on extremeskins is facts are not allowed when talking about the Commanders players.


So what our facts here with Jason Campbell and why he is destined to be a collasal bust?

Because he played in 4 different systems in college? Because he improved his senior year? Because he is now in a situation where he has been able to sit for a year, and will have a very good offensive line, a terrific WR corps, and a running game to back him up? That he is playing under one of the best OC's in the NFL, who was on a staff that turned Kurt Warner into a star?

Or is it those silver and blue glasses clouding your vision again?
 

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So what our facts here with Jason Campbell and why he is destined to be a collasal bust?

Because he played in 4 different systems in college? Because he improved his senior year? Because he is now in a situation where he has been able to sit for a year, and will have a very good offensive line, a terrific WR corps, and a running game to back him up? That he is playing under one of the best OC's in the NFL, who was on a staff that turned Kurt Warner into a star?

Or is it those silver and blue glasses clouding your vision again?

:bravo: i believe youre right ol' chap.
 

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Man I really wish we visit Fed Ex week 1 and smack those posers right in the mouth.

Then all these Commander trolls would be off this site for good, well, until another miracle comes about...
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
So what our facts here with Jason Campbell and why he is destined to be a collasal bust?

Because he played in 4 different systems in college? Because he improved his senior year? Because he is now in a situation where he has been able to sit for a year, and will have a very good offensive line, a terrific WR corps, and a running game to back him up? That he is playing under one of the best OC's in the NFL, who was on a staff that turned Kurt Warner into a star?

Bringing in Todd Collins was a REAL vote of confidence... LOL...

I admire your confidence, but you might want to pause to consider that it just might be misguided... remember the last quarterback the Skins drafted late in the first round, their last "quarterback of the future"??

If you don't, here's a clue-- he's now playing for the Jets, and y'all got a SIXTH round pick for him... Patrick Ramsey didn't turn out to be all that, did he??
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
So what our facts here with Jason Campbell and why he is destined to be a collasal bust?

Because he played in 4 different systems in college? Because he improved his senior year? Because he is now in a situation where he has been able to sit for a year, and will have a very good offensive line, a terrific WR corps, and a running game to back him up? That he is playing under one of the best OC's in the NFL, who was on a staff that turned Kurt Warner into a star?

Or is it those silver and blue glasses clouding your vision again?

Lets take this one by one

Fist please give me a link to where I said collasal bust thanks

4 different systems and was only above average in one of them

Improved senior year in yet another system if he could do it as a senior why not as a Jr?

Sit for a year this one makes 2. Does sitting automatically make you better? If so you agree that Henson will someday be a very good QB right?

good oline yes you do unfortunately Cambell is a backup again

Terrific??? a terrific WR core? are you kidding? Moss is terrific, El is a kick returner and Lloyd was average as a #1

Just because i can see clearly doesnt mean I have blue glasses on. Its a shame that you cant say anything of value. I mean come on your fellow skins fan makes himself look like an *** over here and you jump in to defend him even though you yourself do not believe college awards mean anything
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
1: The SEC is not the best conference in America, the ACC is

2: They do when they have 3 offensive superstars, the best O-Line and the best defense in America

1. I went to UVA, so I'd love to say that the ACC is the best conference. But in all honesty, the ACC only has 3 teams (FSU, Miami, VT) that can be counted on to be in the top 25.

The Big 10 and SEC are both better conferences from top to bottom.

2. I agree - 3 offensive SUPERSTARS! Cadillac, Ronnie, Campbell!
 

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BigDFan5 said:
you can throw all your burgandy eggs in the Cambell basket if you like. I expect to see you here in a few years repenting and apoligizing for your mistakes.

Mentioning palmer and Cambell together is like me mentioning Henson and Palmer together makes no sense

What makes Cowboys fans say Jason Campbell will be bad? They have no justification for these types of statements. He was a great college quarterback on a top team in the top conference in the country. He's huge, fast, and has a cannon. Also, Gibbs hand picked this guy and traded up to get him. The last time he did that, the Skins drafted Cooley.

As a Commanders fan, I know there is no guarantee that he will be a superstar, but until he plays a full season I don't see how anyone can knock this guy. He has looked very strong in his preseason action - poised, accurate, mobile, and an arm with more zip than Ramsey.

Cowboys fans - give it a break! You only wish that you had a young, potentially great QB on your team's roster.
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
So what our facts here with Jason Campbell and why he is destined to be a collasal bust?

Because he played in 4 different systems in college? Because he improved his senior year? Because he is now in a situation where he has been able to sit for a year, and will have a very good offensive line, a terrific WR corps, and a running game to back him up? That he is playing under one of the best OC's in the NFL, who was on a staff that turned Kurt Warner into a star?

Or is it those silver and blue glasses clouding your vision again?

I've never agreed so whole-heartedly with a Hokie before in my life.
 

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silverbear said:
Bringing in Todd Collins was a REAL vote of confidence... LOL...

I admire your confidence, but you might want to pause to consider that it just might be misguided... remember the last quarterback the Skins drafted late in the first round, their last "quarterback of the future"??

If you don't, here's a clue-- he's now playing for the Jets, and y'all got a SIXTH round pick for him... Patrick Ramsey didn't turn out to be all that, did he??

Todd Collins - Inexpensive, veteran #3 QB with knowledge of Saunders' system. Horrible signing, I agree.

Ramsey - drafted by Spurrier to run the fun n gun. I normally agree with Spurrier and everything he wants to do with a football team, but I'm gonna go with the HOF coach on this one. Ramsey is mediocre and always will be. Gibbs abandoned ship on him as soon as he realized this (which was before his return to the sideline).
 

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SkinsFan26 said:
Todd Collins - Inexpensive, veteran #3 QB with knowledge of Saunders' system. Horrible signing, I agree.

LOL... if Mark Brunell gets hurt this year, it will be Todd Collins coming into the game...

Ramsey - drafted by Spurrier to run the fun n gun.

Spurrier obviously had input on draft decisions, but he didn't make those calls... it was the Skins' personnel people who decided that Ramsey had the potential to be a long-time starting QB, and those are basically the same people who analyzed Jason Campbell... similarly, Gibbs had input on the Campbell decision, but he didn't make the final call, and that decision was based on the input provided by those personnel people...

Once again, the only response you Skins fans have is "Coach Joe likes him, so he must be good"... like Gibbs never made a mistake in his personnel decisions...
 

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SkinsHokieFan said:
To compare Jason Campbell to either of those 2 guys is a joke

Leaf had no head on his shoulders and got thrust into a bad situation

Jason White did not have anywhere near the physical tools that Jason Campbell has

Come back with a much better argument there littedfan
RYan Leaf had so much more talent than Campbell it isnt even worth discussing. To this day I still think Ryan Leaf had more pure football talent than Peyton Manning, Manning is just a football genius while Leaf is a headcase and freaks out when he is under pressure.
 

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silverbear said:
Spurrier obviously had input on draft decisions, but he didn't make those calls... it was the Skins' personnel people who decided that Ramsey had the potential to be a long-time starting QB, and those are basically the same people who analyzed Jason Campbell... similarly, Gibbs had input on the Campbell decision, but he didn't make the final call, and that decision was based on the input provided by those personnel people...

Wow, I wish I had the inside scoop that you have about how the Commanders draft their players. If I didn't know any better, I would say that you work for the Commanders or at least hang around the war room on draft day.

And yeah, I'm sure Coach Gibbs asked permission to get the guy he wanted.
 
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