Easy Decision - Release TO

[JordanTaber]

1.

I will try and explain the obvious. He hampers Romo because he is trying to appease the whiner. And it is propagated by Jerry Jones and the rest of the issues on the staff. Romo is thinking about appeasing TO instead of winning. He thinks about it when he is preparing, thinks about it in the huddle and thinks about it when he is in the pocket. Clearly it has affected his mental demeanor and professional development.

2.

Hardly conjecture. It is a logical conclusion based upon Evidence that TO has never said 'my bad' I ran a wrong route or 'my bad' I dropped that one. It is prediction based upon historical facts...and many people have said as such.


3.

More teams have a good QB than an elite RCVR who win the SB. Do the math.


4.
Valid point on injuries to RB. But the fact is that TO won't want to play in an offense that is a power running attack unless he were totally the featured RCVR like a Roddy White in Atlanta. At 35, he won't be -- and we have RW and Witten at this point.

5.

I haven't read where the press said Garrett basically couldn't work with Romo, Crayton or Roy. I have read, on at least 2-3 occasions, press reports that Garrett and TO could not coexist.

6

BS. They are very similar RCVRs in that they are long striders who lack precision route running and lack lateral quickness. Roy is better at adjustment and making the catch in traffic. Whereas, TO is more of a deep threat. But they are not complimentary in the true sense.

1. This is all just a guess on your part...and not very believable. If Tony was trying so hard to "appease the whiner," why did "the whiner" have his least productive season since 1999, when he played with a platoon of Steve Stenstrom and Jeff Garcia after Young went down (discounting the 2005 season, when he only played 7 games)? Why did "the whiner" catch only 69 passes after averaging 87.6 (excluding 2005 again) from 2000 to 2007? He was FAR more productive last season. Has he fallen off so badly that he has to whine and then have the coaches listen to him and appease him so they can throw to him much more than ever before, only for him to only be able to muster 69 catches for a little over 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns? Would he have merely caught 50 for 850 and 6 or so had he remained quiet?

2. Terrell Owens said "this loss is on me" after the 2nd Commanders game in 2006. The T.O. Police have limited memory.

3. I don't know about that. The Pittsburgh Steelers had Lynn Swann and John Stallworth. The 49ers had Jerry Rice and John Taylor. Before that, they had Freddie Solomon (extremely underrated) and Dwight Clark. The Cowboys had Michael Irvin in the 90's, Drew Pearson in the 70's...before him, Bob Hayes. The Commanders had Art Monk and Gary Clark...Charlie Brown on the 82 team. The Raiders had Cliff Branch and Fred Biletnikoff. The Rams had Isaac Bruce. The Colts had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

Teams like the pre-Moss 2000's Patriots are the exception throughout history, just as the 1985 Bears, 2000 Ravens, and 1980 and 1983 Raiders were the exceptions with mediocre-at-best quarterbacking.

4. Personally, I don't think T.O. would mind considering his season got shot to hell this year the way they did it, anyway. As long as this team doesn't become the Bill Cowher era Pittsburgh Steelers, the receivers should be fine. A 50/50 run/pass ratio would be ideal.

5. The press pulls things out of their rear end. If you listen to the press, then Jason Garrett was the coach of the Rams last night and Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, and Patrick Crayton all stormed into Jason Garrett's office together for a meeting before the Giants game. Also, DeMarcus Ware wasn't able to play in the the Steelers game and Owens tried to commit suicide in 2006. Plus, Terrell Owens was going to win his grievance hearing in 2005 against the Eagles, and he was going to be stuck with the Baltimore Ravens after the trade in 2004. Not only that, but Bill Parcells was coming back for the 2007 season, and there was no way Parcells would ever bench Bledsoe for Tony Romo. Randy Moss was not going to re-sign with the Patriots; he was gone to Philadelphia.

6. Do they need to be "complimentary in the true sense?" Neither Anquan Boldin nor Larry Fitzgerald are great route runners. Boldin is devastating after the catch, Fitzgerald is devastating on jump balls.

 

[Cochese]

I seriously wonder if TO has you employed with the amount of defending you do around here.

 

[Bleu Star]

Why no TO?

Yes, he was our best RCVR this year. But this is why he should be gone and why it is actually a no brainer decision:

1. It hampers the development of Romo. QBs are hard to replace and find. Romo clearly isn't in a great mental state and probably regressed this year. Having to worry about TO is going to continue to hamper his development.
2. TO is 35 and is clearly going to go down swinging. He is not a self aware sort of guy and isn't going to say 'hey I can't do it anymore'. As his skills detiorate, so will his blaming of QB or Offensive coaches. The chemistry situation will only worsen.
3. A TO type receiver (elite) is not a requirement to win the SB. 3 of 4 teams in the NFC/AFC championship games don't have an elite type RCVR like him.
4. Choice, Jones and Barber - lets build around them.
5. If Garrett is now coming back, there is clearly an issue between them. Quit ignoring chemistry issues thinking that a sum of the talent will work out. Make choices and cut loose those that don't align with your choice.
6. RWilliams is reaching his prime. He is the same type of RCVR as TO. Big, long striders who aren't precise on routes. Not going to get quick separation on short routes. You can't afford to have two long striders starting for your team as #1 and #2--also, both of whom will rock the boat and make waves. Lets get a precision route runner, quick guy in the rotation with RW, Crayton and Austin and see how we do.

Honestly, I don't think it is that tough of a decision to release TO. Yes it is dead money but it is an easy call to make.

See my sig. Thanks to you we're one step closer to that bottom line name change.

 

[Bleu Star]

Id much rather release the *** clown coordinator who cant figure out how to get his playmaker WR the damn football. This is coming from a TO hater.

*** clown is a perfect description of our OC with the inflated cranium.

 

[CF74]

Id much rather release the *** clown coordinator who cant figure out how to get his playmaker WR the damn football.

+3...

 

[Bleu Star]

+3...

+4...

 

[goshan]

1. This is all just a guess on your part...and not very believable. If Tony was trying so hard to "appease the whiner," why did "the whiner" have his least productive season since 1999, when he played with a platoon of Steve Stenstrom and Jeff Garcia after Young went down (discounting the 2005 season, when he only played 7 games)? Why did "the whiner" catch only 69 passes after averaging 87.6 (excluding 2005 again) from 2000 to 2007? He was FAR more productive last season. Has he fallen off so badly that he has to whine and then have the coaches listen to him and appease him so they can throw to him much more than ever before, only for him to only be able to muster 69 catches for a little over 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns? Would he have merely caught 50 for 850 and 6 or so had he remained quiet?

2. Terrell Owens said "this loss is on me" after the 2nd Commanders game in 2006. The T.O. Police have limited memory.

3. I don't know about that. The Pittsburgh Steelers had Lynn Swann and John Stallworth. The 49ers had Jerry Rice and John Taylor. Before that, they had Freddie Solomon (extremely underrated) and Dwight Clark. The Cowboys had Michael Irvin in the 90's, Drew Pearson in the 70's...before him, Bob Hayes. The Commanders had Art Monk and Gary Clark...Charlie Brown on the 82 team. The Raiders had Cliff Branch and Fred Biletnikoff. The Rams had Isaac Bruce. The Colts had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

Teams like the pre-Moss 2000's Patriots are the exception throughout history, just as the 1985 Bears, 2000 Ravens, and 1980 and 1983 Raiders were the exceptions with mediocre-at-best quarterbacking.

4. Personally, I don't think T.O. would mind considering his season got shot to hell this year the way they did it, anyway. As long as this team doesn't become the Bill Cowher era Pittsburgh Steelers, the receivers should be fine. A 50/50 run/pass ratio would be ideal.

5. The press pulls things out of their rear end. If you listen to the press, then Jason Garrett was the coach of the Rams last night and Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, and Patrick Crayton all stormed into Jason Garrett's office together for a meeting before the Giants game. Also, DeMarcus Ware wasn't able to play in the the Steelers game and Owens tried to commit suicide in 2006. Plus, Terrell Owens was going to win his grievance hearing in 2005 against the Eagles, and he was going to be stuck with the Baltimore Ravens after the trade in 2004. Not only that, but Bill Parcells was coming back for the 2007 season, and there was no way Parcells would ever bench Bledsoe for Tony Romo. Randy Moss was not going to re-sign with the Patriots; he was gone to Philadelphia.

6. Do they need to be "complimentary in the true sense?" Neither Anquan Boldin nor Larry Fitzgerald are great route runners. Boldin is devastating after the catch, Fitzgerald is devastating on jump balls.

1. A guess. A logical conclusion that is shared by many. Why did his production go down? The guy is 35 years old and declining. Period.
2. We can easily pick out 1-2 scenarios where he was Mr. Humble. Fact is, and you know it, it isn't in his DNA.
3. Lets look at the last 10 SB champions and not focus on 'old school' since the game has changed so much:
A. Giants - Was Buress elite? Manning average. Neither elite QB or RCVR.
B. Colts. Manning. Harrison, but not top 5. Elite QB, not Elite WR.
C. Steelers - No Elite RCVR (no Elite QB either, as Ben was rook).
D. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr.
E. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr.
F. Bucs - No elite QB or RCVR
G. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr
H. Ravens - No elite QB or RCVR
I. Rams - Elite QB and RCVRs
J. Broncos - Elite QB, no Elite RCVR

4. Again, I think TO would be ok in a run-centric O if we didn't have Witten and R11W - kind of like Roddy White in Atlanta. But he is 1 of 3....he won't like it.

5. Yes the press does. But there is enough common opinion and reporting that I am convinced there is an issue.

 

[JordanTaber]

1. A guess. A logical conclusion that is shared by many. Why did his production go down? The guy is 35 years old and declining. Period.
2. We can easily pick out 1-2 scenarios where he was Mr. Humble. Fact is, and you know it, it isn't in his DNA.
3. Lets look at the last 10 SB champions and not focus on 'old school' since the game has changed so much:
A. Giants - Was Buress elite? Manning average. Neither elite QB or RCVR.
B. Colts. Manning. Harrison, but not top 5. Elite QB, not Elite WR.
C. Steelers - No Elite RCVR (no Elite QB either, as Ben was rook).
D. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr.
E. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr.
F. Bucs - No elite QB or RCVR
G. Pats - Brady, no elite rcvr
H. Ravens - No elite QB or RCVR
I. Rams - Elite QB and RCVRs
J. Broncos - Elite QB, no Elite RCVR

4. Again, I think TO would be ok in a run-centric O if we didn't have Witten and R11W - kind of like Roddy White in Atlanta. But he is 1 of 3....he won't like it.

5. Yes the press does. But there is enough common opinion and reporting that I am convinced there is an issue.

1. But you think his production is going to decline THAT much in the span of just a year? What about all of the players and coaches who were raving about how he was faster and more explosive this year than he was last year? How about all those terrifying displays of speed this year on certain plays?

If the Cowboys were focusing on getting Owens his numbers and this is the best he could muster, it's time for him to retire.


2. When it actually is Owens's fault, he's usually the first one to admit it. But he's too good and works too hard to have it be his fault nearly as often as people insist it is. What crucial mistakes did he make on the field this year? I think he was called for just one penalty (and it was a questionable call) in the season opener against the Browns, and of his 9 dropped passes, I can't remember any that had an impact on the outcome of the game.

3. Plaxico Burress is a Pro Bowl caliber receiver when healthy. So I would say he's elite. Marvin Harrison was named 1st team all-pro in 2006, so I would say he was elite. The Broncos had Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey--personally, I always thought they were largely products of Shanahan's scheme, but they certainly had elite production. That leaves the Patriots and two teams with historically great defenses; the 2002 Bucs and the 2000 Ravens. Oh, and I guess you can throw in the Steelers, since I never really considered Hines Ward "elite."

It absolutely can be done without an elite receiver, but is this team's defense really good enough to get it there? I just don't see it. I can't imagine the 2000 Ravens, 2002 Bucs, or even the 2005 Steelers giving up back-to-back 77+ yard touchdown runs late in the 4th quarter when everyone knows the opponent is going to run and they know they just need to force 3-and-out to give their offense an excellent chance at winning the game.


4. I don't think this should be a "runcentric" offense. There would've been no reason to give up so much for Roy Williams if that were the plan. What this team needs is a balanced offense.

5. Fine, believe what you want.

 

[thechosen1n2]

1.

I will try and explain the obvious. He hampers Romo because he is trying to appease the whiner. And it is propagated by Jerry Jones and the rest of the issues on the staff. Romo is thinking about appeasing TO instead of winning. He thinks about it when he is preparing, thinks about it in the huddle and thinks about it when he is in the pocket. Clearly it has affected his mental demeanor and professional development.

Bull crap....The obvious is this. Romo and TO have more TDs together than and qb/wr duo since romo became a starter. Was he hampering Romos development then?

Was Romo trying to appease TO when TO pointed at him to not throw the ball his way and Romo threw it anyway?(right to polamalu...or however you spell his name)

Was he trying to appease TO when he forced the ball to Witten in pittsburgh on third and fourth down.

Face it....Romo is just Romo. The same thing that we love about him, is the same thing that pisses us off. It has nothing to do with TO. My question is why do you support Romo, but wont listen to what he says. He said the problem was Garrett, along with TO...so what makes you think TO is more of a probem than the play calling.

 

[Clove]

Why no TO?

Yes, he was our best RCVR this year. But this is why he should be gone and why it is actually a no brainer decision:

1. It hampers the development of Romo. QBs are hard to replace and find. Romo clearly isn't in a great mental state and probably regressed this year. Having to worry about TO is going to continue to hamper his development.
2. TO is 35 and is clearly going to go down swinging. He is not a self aware sort of guy and isn't going to say 'hey I can't do it anymore'. As his skills detiorate, so will his blaming of QB or Offensive coaches. The chemistry situation will only worsen.
3. A TO type receiver (elite) is not a requirement to win the SB. 3 of 4 teams in the NFC/AFC championship games don't have an elite type RCVR like him.
4. Choice, Jones and Barber - lets build around them.
5. If Garrett is now coming back, there is clearly an issue between them. Quit ignoring chemistry issues thinking that a sum of the talent will work out. Make choices and cut loose those that don't align with your choice.
6. RWilliams is reaching his prime. He is the same type of RCVR as TO. Big, long striders who aren't precise on routes. Not going to get quick separation on short routes. You can't afford to have two long striders starting for your team as #1 and #2--also, both of whom will rock the boat and make waves. Lets get a precision route runner, quick guy in the rotation with RW, Crayton and Austin and see how we do.

Honestly, I don't think it is that tough of a decision to release TO. Yes it is dead money but it is an easy call to make.

So is this the answer to us going to the Super Bowl and winning?