Ed Werder savior?

tyke1doe

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djdoug;2674791 said:
T.O. was not the entire problem,and Ed Werder can go jump off a bridge for all I care.Werder doesnt know his head from his you know what about football,and I mute the TV when he is reporting.
Good luck T.O.,and I hope our secondary can stop him,like other teams have done to us with him.

But Werder is not paid to know football. When did Werder call a play or assume the broadcasting booth to give play-by-play analysis? :huh:

What he does know, for the most part, is the interworkings of the Cowboys lockerroom and organization. And I would say that he knows that better than anyone on this board.

Anyone else have the private cell phone numbers of Dallas Cowboys executives, coaches and players?

You don't have to like what he's reporting. But he's reporting what he's hearing from people inside the organization. Now whether those people themselves have axes to grind is another matter. But he won't get his information if he doesn't have access. And if he doesn't get that information, he doesn't have a job.
 

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Everyone is missing the point of the thread. No one is saying Werder is a savior or JJ is listening to Werder for advice. He was saying that Werder's obsession with stirring up trouble with the Boys, especially TO was finally too much of a distraction. If TO had been allowed to quietly go about his business like the media allows Randy Moss to operate, then things would've been a lot different. ESPN pounds the Cowboys for ratings and stories, just like the Yankees and Favre. They are part of the problem, but not a major part. They all predicted doom and gloom, then the Super Bowl, then kicked them when done and then proclaimed "I told you so".

Enough with the circus, let's just play ball.
 

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bkight13;2675094 said:
Everyone is missing the point of the thread. No one is saying Werder is a savior or JJ is listening to Werder for advice. He was saying that Werder's obsession with stirring up trouble with the Boys, especially TO was finally too much of a distraction. If TO had been allowed to quietly go about his business like the media allows Randy Moss to operate, then things would've been a lot different. ESPN pounds the Cowboys for ratings and stories, just like the Yankees and Favre. They are part of the problem, but not a major part. They all predicted doom and gloom, then the Super Bowl, then kicked them when done and then proclaimed "I told you so".

Enough with the circus, let's just play ball.
I'm sorry. When exactly did Randy Moss submit to a totally unnecessary, nationally broadcast interview with Deion Sanders, in which he discussed his "misgivings" with the way the New England Patriots were underutilizing him?

It's impossible to remove Terrell Owens from the blame game. He inserted himself into the equation and promoted unnecessary media attention onto both himself and the Dallas Cowboys voluntarily and without reservation. The amount of media attention which he alone initiated can be debated; but because he is Terrell Owens, any negative nonsense such as the Sanders interview was unwarranted, completely avoidable and falls firmly in his lap alone.

He did his part to purposely undermine himself, just as he had in San Francisco and Philadelphia. Que sera sera.
 

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bkight13;2675094 said:
Everyone is missing the point of the thread. No one is saying Werder is a savior or JJ is listening to Werder for advice. He was saying that Werder's obsession with stirring up trouble with the Boys, especially TO was finally too much of a distraction. If TO had been allowed to quietly go about his business like the media allows Randy Moss to operate, then things would've been a lot different. ESPN pounds the Cowboys for ratings and stories, just like the Yankees and Favre. They are part of the problem, but not a major part. They all predicted doom and gloom, then the Super Bowl, then kicked them when done and then proclaimed "I told you so".

Enough with the circus, let's just play ball.

You can't stir up trouble if there's no trouble, right? :huh:

I'm pretty sure if T.O. had come to Dallas, merely played football and said nothing (like Moss did in New England), he would likely still be here.

But he didn't. As for Werder's obsession, what obsession? :huh:
He's PAID to cover the Cowboys, just as T.O. was PAID to play for the Cowboys. He's not paid to hold press conference or bad mouth anyone in the press. If he did a Marvin Harrison or Marion Barber, he still serves the purpose he was paid to do - play football games and help the team win.

The bottom line is this: The Dallas Cowboys are the most popular franchise in the NFL. If you're blessed enough to play for the team, understand this and watch what you say so your every comment doesn't headline ESPN.

Is it really that hard to avoid? :confused:
 

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RoadRunner;2674247 said:
So, when the same problems crop up again this year, who will you blame then?

What will you do when Werder picks another target for his "stories"?

The whole TO thing was the most overblown thing I have ever seen in my life of football watching. The guy was run out of town purely for the sake of media ratings. He never did ANYTHING here that even remotely warranted the media witch hunt that eventually got a lot of sheeple believing in it. Shame on Jerry for letting the media call his roster moves for him.


If people keep their mouths shut Werder won't have much to say.

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tyke1doe;2674799 said:
But Werder is not paid to know football.

So basically he's here to report on soap operas. God forbid a sports reporter should know the sport he's covering.

Awesome. Maybe he should go on to work for the "National Enquirer" or "Star", and he can take his tabloid journalism of "anonymous" sources with him.
 

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RoadRunner;2674247 said:
So, when the same problems crop up again this year, who will you blame then?

What will you do when Werder picks another target for his "stories"?

The whole TO thing was the most overblown thing I have ever seen in my life of football watching. The guy was run out of town purely for the sake of media ratings. He never did ANYTHING here that even remotely warranted the media witch hunt that eventually got a lot of sheeple believing in it. Shame on Jerry for letting the media call his roster moves for him.

It is obvious to all of good and sound reason TO is neither entirely the Media Made Maelstrom nor the lamb being led to slaughter.

Perhaps those same and more will move on now. And so I bid this adieu.
 

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SultanOfSix;2675270 said:
So basically he's here to report on soap operas. God forbid a sports reporter should know the sport he's covering.

Awesome. Maybe he should go on to work for the "National Enquirer" or "Star", and he can take his tabloid journalism of "anonymous" sources with him.

I know you're probably stuck in the 18th century, but sports reporting includes covering the clubhouse, not just examining the X's and O's of a play.

As for his "anonymous sources" they knew something because T.O.'s no longer with the Cowboys. ;)
 

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cowboyjoe;2674354 said:
not me, personally i am will be totally glad when the cowboys blackball ed weinei werner. He is the start of a whole bunch of the leaks, he assumes things, then he adds onto it to make his story.

Look at whatever weinei werner talks, when other writers were asking wade questions, weinei werner was asking questions on one occassion about adam jones at least 3-4 questions were amied at wade, and you could look at weinei werners face when wade wouldnt answer the questions. Now did the other reporters ask questions about adam jones, no, just weinei.

Same thing would happen to T O and weinei werner. Did you see werner talk about miles austin, or felix jones, or players that were making plays, no it was all negativity towards adam jones and T O.

thats who weinei werner is.

I do know this, weinei werner will have to answer to God for that. What weinei werner did wasnt journalism, even michael irvin caught weinei werner in a lie, which what werner did was finally admit it was his assumptions, not fact.

Just like jerry jones said one day this year, we know what reporters to talk to and what ones not to now. When espn was laughing at the cowboys when they were losing, and not being in the playoffs, if i was the owener, i would be sure that to tell the players, and coaches you dont talk to certain espn writers, especially weinei werner.
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If Ed ever says anything negative about Romo, he would be shot.
 

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tyke1doe;2675776 said:
I know you're probably stuck in the 18th century, but sports reporting includes covering the clubhouse, not just examining the X's and O's of a play.

Did I say knowing the sports he covers limits him to knowing simply the X's and O's?

As for his "anonymous sources" they knew something because T.O.'s no longer with the Cowboys. ;)

They've been saying it for three years. It's like saying "TO will die someday". DUH. Because everyone does. But keep defending your cronies in "journalism" who use semantic weaseling like lawyers so they can loophole their way out.
 

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RoadRunner;2674247 said:
So, when the same problems crop up again this year, who will you blame then?

What will you do when Werder picks another target for his "stories"?

The whole TO thing was the most overblown thing I have ever seen in my life of football watching. The guy was run out of town purely for the sake of media ratings. He never did ANYTHING here that even remotely warranted the media witch hunt that eventually got a lot of sheeple believing in it. Shame on Jerry for letting the media call his roster moves for him.

100% agree. Media loved TO because they knew WE would bite on the story. Lets face it, sports fans love to talk about drama, thats the next big thing in sports besides the game itself. I still remember times in a press conference where the press would try to bait TO into a controversial answer, it was horrible to watch. Then you turn on sportscenter and BAM! theres a stupid sound bite making him seem like a culprit.

He was a scapegoat at times BUT he did put it on himself.
 

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Ratliff's quote is telling. This whole CHEMISTRY thing...yeah, I agree big time it matters, but discipline hard work and getting some *** kickers that want to win and not whine is just as important. Looks like we're finally moving in that direction again.
 

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SultanOfSix;2676332 said:
Did I say knowing the sports he covers limits him to knowing simply the X's and O's?

Okay, so maybe you can explain your statement he has to know "the sport he covers."



They've been saying it for three years. It's like saying "TO will die someday". DUH. Because everyone does. But keep defending your cronies in "journalism" who use semantic weaseling like lawyers so they can loophole their way out.

Except the predictions of Terrell Owens being released came right after the season concluded.

Werder nor the others were saying T.O. would be released last year. They did say he would be released this year.

Oh, and stating that those in your organization don't want T.O. around and predicting when someone will be released - when he's not expected to be released - is not "semantic weaseling."

It's accurate reporting. ;)
 
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