Elite cornerbacks sounded off to disagree with Rex Ryan’s take on Amari Cooper

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we already had along discussion going with our opinions on AC and rex in another thread.

, im glad they are defending him but Rex wasn't all wrong, maybe Turd was hard but the guy does disappear and not worth 20 IMO

we paid it because Dak needs his binkie and we already gave a 1 for the guy.. catch 22 doesn't mean he has some issues that were stated very correctly....
 

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For Rex Ryan to say Amari Cooper is not a good route runner is flat out ridiculous!

To say he disappears in big games has been pretty accurate. Hopefully that changes this year.

Go Cowboys!!
he didnt say that he said at times against better corners or when he wasn't the primary he would give up on routes and thats true..it got him benched jogging through routes at times in games..
 

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This is the classic example of media trying to create news. Rex Ryan knows good and well Amari Cooper isn't a turd. But he has to say something controversial, especially during a cycle in which there is not much sports news, to get people talking. If he said this about AB, that's one thing - given AB's behavior. But to say it about Amari Cooper is a strict grab for ratings, clicks and self-generated controversy.
 

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we already had along discussion going with our opinions on AC and rex in another thread.

, im glad they are defending him but Rex wasn't all wrong, maybe Turd was hard but the guy does disappear and not worth 20 IMO

we paid it because Dak needs his binkie and we already gave a 1 for the guy.. catch 22 doesn't mean he has some issues that were stated very correctly....
Compared to other top level receivers, there isn't a huge difference. This notion that he disappears is overblown in general.
All receivers have a harder time on the road.
All receivers struggle when playing injured.
All receivers have a harder time with higher level secondaries.

The conversations that were had were cherry picked to make it appear Cooper is some couch potato. Yet his teammates, coaches and opposing players all suggest a different story.

Most just look at the yards received and that paints the picture instead of factoring in injuries, location, caliber of the secondary, other WRs on the roster sharing catches.

Having two high level WRs produce over 1,000 yards in a season is a sweet problem to have.
 

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It's just players defending players. They will always do this. Also what positive is there for a corner to say he covered a turd receiver? Not very good in future contract negotiations.

Gilmore got beat by other receivers, Cooper didn't do a thing. Nor has Cooper ever done anything against elite corners.
 

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he didnt say that he said at times against better corners or when he wasn't the primary he would give up on routes and thats true..it got him benched jogging through routes at times in games..
When, on multiple occasions did he give up on routes and get benched? What games?
 

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It's just players defending players. They will always do this. Also what positive is there for a corner to say he covered a turd receiver? Not very good in future contract negotiations.

Gilmore got beat by other receivers, Cooper didn't do a thing. Nor has Cooper ever done anything against elite corners.
Cooper didn’t do a thing in a hurricane of course not.
 

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Ryan is a corn studded turd at that. Not only is Cooper a great route runner, but he is fast and sneaky as well. His body control catching ball near the sidelines is uncanny. Cooper has disappointing moments in games but what overall production!

Agree, hoping we can get more out of the players with the new coaches.
 

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Compared to other top level receivers, there isn't a huge difference. This notion that he disappears is overblown in general.
All receivers have a harder time on the road.
All receivers struggle when playing injured.
All receivers have a harder time with higher level secondaries.

The conversations that were had were cherry picked to make it appear Cooper is some couch potato. Yet his teammates, coaches and opposing players all suggest a different story.

Most just look at the yards received and that paints the picture instead of factoring in injuries, location, caliber of the secondary, other WRs on the roster sharing catches.

Having two high level WRs produce over 1,000 yards in a season is a sweet problem to have.

top Elie WRs 1500 plus and 12-15Tds plus.. he got paid for under 1100 yards and thats not élite level thats just good these day in this so called "passing Era" under 1100 is just being a very good starting WR.. Put up 100 catches plus 1500 plus and double diguit scores + .. Dez had 4years in arrow where he met these and he was worth signing even which his injurys caught up to him. we railed on Dez for having a drop off after his new deal, well this was basically a repeat of history given that type of deal to AC , actually more so..at least Dez was destroying records and actually elite before he got paid, AC is a very good top notch WR, hes not elite..

we already saw this from AC in Oakland we knew he had PF foot issues etc yet hand him ELITE money..it was overpaying and if he wants to be in the norm thats under 18 bro,, dont waste your time convincing me other wise.. I see Hopkins, Thomas and Jones destroying stats and they influence every game they are in even when not targeted, AC decides to jog when hes the being the bait..it made it easier on the defense to defend the play call when they see AC isnt going full speed and cuts off his routes..all truths..

I get why they did it but Rex is right , it wasn't smart to do so,..
 

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Just like anyone else with talent, if healthy they are a handful to deal with...
 
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