Elite cornerbacks sounded off to disagree with Rex Ryan’s take on Amari Cooper

blueblood70

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ooofff, you had to go and try to prop up Dez (which wasn't part of the topic) to crap on Cooper.... Bryant had 3 high level season in a row NOT 4. And they were right around the same statistically as what Copper has put up. Sorry, that's just a bad take.

Also, like I mentioned in another post, look at other WRs across the league game to game and it's pretty close with regard to ups and downs.

Some fans have their expectations WAY too high because they feel they are an authority on salary vs. production and that's the farthest from the truth. But they don't accurately compare. It's always hand picked.
not right around the same, Dez blew AC door off, period, those 3 seasons were elite AC career is below that..sorry I witnessed both and can make my own determnations..

Dez would have never let a coach put him on the bench at the end of critical game, he would have walked into the huddle and threw out the no name that took his spot, yup most likely whistle for delay of game or too many in the huddle but the world would know Dez was not being put in the corner.. he had passion and fire those 4 years were elite. also played some STs..

Im, saying dez was criticized for getting his deal and not living up to it yet he earned it prior and now AC given even more everyone ok with it..right hypocrisy.

Dez numbers were better, period..dez was top 5 all those years and AC was top 10 in production..BTW Romo >Dak Dez >AC FACTS :)
 

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I loved Dez, but he never caught 100 passes, never had 1500 yards, and had 15 TDs once.

That said, Cooper hasn't matched Dez's stats.
thats my point Dez got fried yet open arms to AC 20mil 100 deal and Dez did not get market setting money yet his number were better ..Dez 3 straight years top 5 in output and higher AC is top 10, thats all im saying..
 

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we paid it because Dak needs his binkie and we already gave a 1 for the guy.. catch 22 doesn't mean he has some issues that were stated very correctly....

Aikman would have failed if Dez was his #1 WR...[/QUOTE]
whats your point?
 

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he should not have been paid elite money for his production and warts..Bob hayes most likely sold shoes on the side to survive, please dont bring up different eras..they use to allow close lines, head slap's, tripping, blind side hits, and black and blue ERA. AC wouldn't not have been able to make the team, he would have got injured in the tryouts..dudes soft..

I said keep him , sure but at élite 20mil , I would have let him go to DC..poor little dak needed his binkie so we can go 8-8 again..
Different eras?

I am just comparing All Pro players and the sacrifices required to do it.

You did not draw a line in the sand from what I saw.

I could have used Lance Rentzel as my example but some would kill me over his criminal record..so I didn't.

I really don't care about the money anymore.

This is all just entertainment. It's designed to get YOUR money.

From ticket sales, fan gear, etc.

And let's not forget your cable TV bill so you can see the commercials and drink the beers and sub sandwiches the league wants you to buy.

I just think you like the rest of us have all different values.

Whatever.
 

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Still, the evidence shows that he is a front runner.

When Dallas is manhandling a team at home, he is there for the pile on.

His body language in the game with the season on the line was awful. Maybe he sulks when things arent so easy....like maybe on grass, or on the rain.

I really dont know. Matters not...all very moot now folks.
 

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not right around the same, Dez blew AC door off, period, those 3 seasons were elite AC career is below that..sorry I witnessed both and can make my own determnations..

Dez would have never let a coach put him on the bench at the end of critical game, he would have walked into the huddle and threw out the no name that took his spot, yup most likely whistle for delay of game or too many in the huddle but the world would know Dez was not being put in the corner.. he had passion and fire those 4 years were elite. also played some STs..

Im, saying dez was criticized for getting his deal and not living up to it yet he earned it prior and now AC given even more everyone ok with it..right hypocrisy.

Dez numbers were better, period..dez was top 5 all those years and AC was top 10 in production..BTW Romo >Dak Dez >AC FACTS :)
Because you have the opinion that Dez and Romo are better than Prescott and Cooper, doesn't make it accurate. Lmao, why are you bringing Dez and Romo into this, good God - let it go. Pretty silly.
And, you may want to look at the statistics without emotion. Also, look at the rest of the NFL.
 

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Will my penalty be having to watch a compilation video of Dez tirades and then Dez failing to win his match-up in the same game?
Your punishment will be house arrest and not showing your face in the general public. So you will have to stay home and wear a mask everywhere you go.

Neither Dez or Mike were exceedingly good at getting wide open. Akimen was extremely accurate on his deep ball throws, which opened up all the underneath routes. So both of those guys would have done well with Ailmen at QB.
 

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Bla bla, bla,bla bla

One idiot tries to generate a controversy and all low level internet sites thank him for that.

Now we have to read what ryan posted. With all the cons and pros. Then how the players reacted with all the cons and pros. And this is stuff for the next 2 weeks. Thank god there are characterless people like ryan. What would the yellow.press do without them ?....!
 

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Most corners are probably quite glad when Cooper has to play while injured. Dealing with his route running and speed when he's full strength is not something any of them looks forward to.
Then to add another threat for them to worry about
 

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Rex Ryan's stunt to get him more air time is working to perfection. A fatter and paler Stephen A. Smith clone provoking "outrage" and Cowboys fans are about to make him a household name too. Lol. How many times do posters say to not pay attention to the media and then pay attention to the media? The media is like a casino. You will never beat them. They have all of your emotions covered and know which ones to press to get a payoff.
 

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I loved Dez, but he never caught 100 passes, never had 1500 yards, and had 15 TDs once.

That said, Cooper hasn't matched Dez's stats. 83, 1189, and 8 are Cooper's highs. Hardly top tier in today's NFL.
@blueblood70

The Cowboys force fed the ball to Dez.

Comparing Dez season with the best yardage total to Cooper's 2019 season if they had the same number of targets:

Rec
Dez 92
Cooper 92

Yds
Dez 1382
Cooper 1379

Y/R
Dez 15
Cooper 15.1
 

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This is the classic example of media trying to create news. Rex Ryan knows good and well Amari Cooper isn't a turd. But he has to say something controversial, especially during a cycle in which there is not much sports news, to get people talking. If he said this about AB, that's one thing - given AB's behavior. But to say it about Amari Cooper is a strict grab for ratings, clicks and self-generated controversy.

Anyone that has followed the Ryans know they know arrogance and inconsideration, and they have loud mouths that are gonna
wanna to get out their expressions in one way or another .. that's their persona, that's in their character. and ESPN has given Rex the full freedom of expression
to publicly made their voices ( and insults) heard.

He can give all the Apologies he wants, he meant what he said with the Turd term, hes' a natural A-hole. and ESPN had to know what he would be
capable of, and thought he is an entertainment-flame that viewers want to hear from.

And ESPN and NFL has close ties, and i want to see how the Cowboys PR relations react to this - even if behind close doors.
so i want to see where this Rex Ryan debacle heads to, ..a warning or a firing.
 

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@blueblood70

The Cowboys force fed the ball to Dez.

Comparing Dez season with the best yardage total to Cooper's 2019 season if they had the same number of targets:

Rec
Dez 92
Cooper 92

Yds
Dez 1382
Cooper 1379

Y/R
Dez 15
Cooper 15.1

Sir Donkey, why didn’t you include touchdowns?
 

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He said he gives up on routes, not that he isn't able.
My bad. I thought I read that somewhere. That being said, Rex Ryan making a comment like that would not surprise me at all, he’s almost as arrogant as his knucklehead father.
 
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Still, the evidence shows that he is a front runner.

When Dallas is manhandling a team at home, he is there for the pile on.

His body language in the game with the season on the line was awful. Maybe he sulks when things arent so easy....like maybe on grass, or on the rain.

I really dont know. Matters not...all very moot now folks.

I mentioned this after the 2018 season and people blasted me for it. It's exactly the rumors that were coming out of Oakland and exactly what their fanbase said. When things are on easy street, he'll put up big numbers. When things are going south? He disappears and that's when Amari Pooper with hands of stone comes out.
 

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I mentioned this after the 2018 season and people blasted me for it. It's exactly the rumors that were coming out of Oakland and exactly what their fanbase said. When things are on easy street, he'll put up big numbers. When things are going south? He disappears and that's when Amari Pooper with hands of stone comes out.

Based on his splits is easy street only when he plays at home?
 

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Based on his splits is easy street only when he plays at home?

I would say there is a significant advantage to playing at home which makes things easier, which is why there is home field advantage. I think there is a combination of his heart not being 100% into football and the fact that he's not a GREAT #1 WR, I just don't think he's physical enough. When he gets punched in the mouth by a good man corner, he seems to back off - I saw this happen with Lattimore and Gilmore in 2019.

But I think the thing that really got me was the video of him letting Adam Jones slam his head off the ground. A lot of people will say that it was smart and he didn't want to draw the flag, but there was no fight in him at all - he just got up, picked his helmet up, and had the same stoic look on his face as always. Just something missing with him as a player. Like I mentioned elsewhere, it's like he's the polar opposite of a diva to the point he hits his own kind of personality extreme.

Here is Jones basically smirking when he was talking about what he did to Cooper and the guys there calling him a bully

 
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