ESPN: Cap space, Tony Romo *Podcast*

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PODCAST: Todd Archer joins Fitzsimmons & Durrett to discuss the Cowboys' attempt to clear cap space, Tony Romo's value around the NFL and why the recent Alex Smith trade shows how valuable Romo truly is.

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[JackOfNoTrades]

wow, estimating Romo will command $16-18 mil from the Boys! That's a lot of coin to lock up on one guy!! Thinking of the Boys without Romo at this point though is not a pretty vision IMO

 

[SDCowboy]

wow, estimating Romo will command $16-18 mil from the Boys! That's a lot of coin to lock up on one guy!! Thinking of the Boys without Romo at this point though is not a pretty vision IMO

It's been speculated he'll likely be around $85-90mil. That's just the going rate for a franchise QB, as nuts as it sounds.

 

[Frosty]

It's been speculated he'll likely be around $85-90mil. That's just the going rate for a franchise QB, as nuts as it sounds.

time to draft a replacement for Romo,,,,,dont want to see him go but there is no way the Cowboys can afford that type of money.. rather have a young QB that the cowboys can build aroumd instead of breaking the bank for a QB whos window is quickly closing

 

[SDCowboy]

time to draft a replacement for Romo,,,,,dont want to see him go but there is no way the Cowboys can afford that type of money.. rather have a young QB that the cowboys can build aroumd instead of breaking the bank for a QB whos window is quickly closing

What are you talking about? They can afford that money and they will pay it (in all likelihood). That's the going rate. If they can't afford it, then we'll never have a franchise QB again because the number just goes up. Any QB we draft will be a lot more than that when he's due for a new contract. Romo would actually be a bargain at $85mil considering who else has/had a higher contract (Rivers, Vick, Eli, etc). Remember, the majority of that is phony money. They don't actually pay Romo $85mil of that contract.

 

[LittleD]

What are you talking about? They can afford that money and they will pay it (in all likelihood). That's the going rate. If they can't afford it, then we'll never have a franchise QB again because the number just goes up. Romo would actually be a bargain at $85mil. Remember, the majority of that is phony money.

We now have the recent Brady contract where all of it is guaranteed. Do you not think Romo's agents are looking that deal over. Do you really think Tony is not in a position to either play out the current contract or demand all guaranteed money in a new contract. Romo holds all the cards and if he wants to get to free agency, he should do exactly this.

Don't be naive...

 

[SDCowboy]

We now have the recent Brady contract where all of it is guaranteed. Do you not think Romo's agents are looking that deal over. Do you really think Tony is not in a position to either play out the current contract or demand all guaranteed money in a new contract. Romo holds all the cards and if he wants to get to free agency, he should do exactly this.

Don't be naive...

Not sure what that has to do with what I wrote...

 

[rocboy22]

We now have the recent Brady contract where all of it is guaranteed. Do you not think Romo's agents are looking that deal over. Do you really think Tony is not in a position to either play out the current contract or demand all guaranteed money in a new contract. Romo holds all the cards and if he wants to get to free agency, he should do exactly this.

Don't be naive...

ok, then give gim a fully guaranteed contract - at the same rate as brady's. sounds good to me. he is in no position to demand a fully guaranteed contract at those much higher yearly rates - nobody is.

 

[LittleD]

Not sure what that has to do with what I wrote...

If Romo demands that all of any new contract is guaranteed, the Boys will have to pay him every nickel of it... There will be no funny money on the backend that he doesn't get. He has all the leverage right now...

 

[SDCowboy]

If Romo demands that all of any new contract is guaranteed, the Boys will have to pay him every nickel of it... There will be no funny money on the backend that he doesn't get. He has all the leverage right now...

That's nice. I never said otherwise. My comment is based off the assumption that he'll do a regular contract. He still gets guaranteed money in that.

 

[Apollo Creed]

time to draft a replacement for Romo,,,,,dont want to see him go but there is no way the Cowboys can afford that type of money.. rather have a young QB that the cowboys can build aroumd instead of breaking the bank for a QB whos window is quickly closing

It's good to know that Garrett has been high on Andy Dalton and Colin Kap over the past few years, we actually were gonna take in the 2nd that year but Cincy nabbed him up.

I like investing in QBs like that, because if they're stock rises in a QB desperate league - you can fleece a lot of teams and get a lot in return. It's worth it to invest in a QB almost every year in the draft, every now and then you get lucky and sometimes you can stumble across a franchise QB in the later rounds (i.e. Russell Wilson).

 

[LittleD]

ok, then give gim a fully guaranteed contract - at the same rate as brady's. sounds good to me. he is in no position to demand a fully guaranteed contract at those much higher yearly rates - nobody is.

He is definitely in a position to demand a very high contract that is all guaranteed. The Boys either have to let him play out his deal, sign him to his demands or trade him on draft day. That's it. Romo can pretty much pull a Brees and get all he can on his last contract or new deal with another team....

Get real....

 

[SDCowboy]

It's good to know that Garrett has been high on Andy Dalton and Colin Kap over the past few years, we actually were gonna take in the 2nd that year but Cincy nabbed him up.

I like investing in QBs like that, because if they're stock rises in a QB desperate league - you can fleece a lot of teams and get a lot in return. It's worth it to invest in a QB almost every year in the draft, every now and then you get lucky and sometimes you can stumble across a franchise QB in the later rounds (i.e. Russell Wilson).

Right but to say we can't afford Romo is bologna. If we can't afford Romo at $85-90, then we'll never afford the next guy at $120+.

 

[LittleD]

That's nice. I never said otherwise. My comment is based off the assumption that he'll do a regular contract. He still gets guaranteed money in that.

I can roll with that. But my assumption is that if Romo and his Agent were going to do a routine standard extension, it would already be done. I think this is going to get sticky and tricky.... Wait & see I guess...

 

[SDCowboy]

He is definitely in a position to demand a very high contract that is all guaranteed. The Boys either have to let him play out his deal, sign him to his demands or trade him on draft day. That's it. Romo can pretty much pull a Brees and get all he can on his last contract or new deal with another team....

Get real....

You do realize that standard contracts still have the guaranteed money built in, right? You are making it out like If Romo sign a $85-90mil deal, that he won't have guaranteed money.

 

[Doomsday101]

Since his last contract in 2007 Romo has had his deal restructure 3 times to help free up cap space. I have little doubt the Cowboys will get Romo resigned to a fair deal and little doubt that Romo and his agent will work with the Cowboys.

Only one who does not seem to want Romo back is fans I have yet to hear Romo make any threats of not coming back or making demands.

 

[rocboy22]

He is definitely in a position to demand a very high contract that is all guaranteed. The Boys either have to let him play out his deal, sign him to his demands or trade him on draft day. That's it. Romo can pretty much pull a Brees and get all he can on his last contract or new deal with another team....

Get real....

get real? so Romo has more leverage than any player, ever??? nobody has a fully guaranteed contract like that. why would Romo all of a sudden be the one to get it?

 

[SDCowboy]

I can roll with that. But my assumption is that if Romo and his Agent were going to do a routine standard extension, it would already be done. I think this is going to get sticky and tricky.... Wait & see I guess...

I do agree there is a vibe that Romo maybe doesn't want to sign a new contract with the team but the current speed of the deal has nothing to do with it. There is no way in hell Romo would sign a new contract before Flacco gets his because Flacco's new deal will raise the value of every starting QB in the league.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Right but to say we can't afford Romo is bologna. If we can't afford Romo at $85-90, then we'll never afford the next guy at $120+.

Oh we definitely can afford him and he should get 16-18 mil considering exactly how valuable he is to a team.

Agents these days dig real deep to get their clients all the leverage in the world. For example, Romo's people put together stats that reflect how many sacks Romo avoided. Compare the difficulty of his job to other franchise QBs around the league. Factor in penalties, lack of turnovers on defense, and really can paint Dallas in a corner. I'm sure you don't have to remind them but they can show the Dallas brass exactly how valuable he is to do the team. Because there are plenty of desperate teams out there that would give him what he wants on an open market.

If Peyton with a broken neck can command 18 mil per at 35+ years old, and Flacco can get 20+ on an open market - I think we're getting a deal on Romo if the 14-18 mil per numbers are true.

 

[Cowboys22]

I wouldn't pay him a penny more than Brady just got. How could anyone justify Romo being higher paid than Brady? I would offer the same exact extension, all guaranteed, and tell Romo to take it or test free agency next year. If he doesn't take it, you change your draft plans and look for a QB sooner than you would otherwise. Like it or not, Brady set a new market for QBs. Lower overall numbers but all fully guaranteed. If you think Romo will be the guy for another 4 or 5 years, then you match it and if he says no, you move on. There is no way I am paying Romo nearly twice what Brady makes. I don't care what the previous QB market was, Brady's deal sets a new market and I move on if my QB isn't willing to do what Brady did.