ESPN: Cowboys' Dez Bryant likes operating out of slot

LOBO7

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The rookie probably called the wrong formation in the huddle and Dez ended up in the slot.
 

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The criticism continues to be mind numbing. Show me your Top 10 receivers of all time and I'll show ten guys that all have dropped contested passes.

Dez's proven ability to regularly make acrobatic catches over the years has spoiled fans into speaking holding him to ridiculous standards and speaking nonsense.

Nonsense. Elite players make contested catches. Why would you look the other way because 'all receivers have drops'? Would you say the same thing about Cousins' red zone pick? I mean, all QBs throw interceptions.

That was a routine grab for Dez. He gets paid because he makes those grabs routine. He caught it, and then didn't secure it. He didn't make the play, period.

He'd be the first to tell you the same thing. Mind numbing is making excuses for the execution errors and putting the fault in not getting the players more opportunities to not make the plays that were there already.
 

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Imagine that. I said they suck for continuious lack of creativity in not moving Dez around and running him from the SLOT after game 1... What do they do ? ? ?

I knew all along they could hear me screaming from the mountaintops of sunny Florida.

please put your powers to better use and start channeling the "jeri, get the hell out of dodge" vibe
 

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It's amazing the ridiculous standards people have of some players. This coaching staff has done little in the way of helping this offense succeed. Thats the only thing that's undebatable.
 

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'It’s so slowed to where you can understand the coverages and run better routes."

Love Bryant, but it's kind of crazy that he's talking about getting to a point where he understands the coverages in year 7, isn't it? I remember a time when there were raging debates about whether it was Tony throwing bad passes or Dez not making proper site adjustments (this was the *last* round of underestimating Tony if anybody's confused, not the current round where we think the rookie QB is a better player and Tony already). That's not an especial knock on Dez because he was an amazing player before he was reading the coverages properly, but it probably should open the door a crack on the idea that maybe our coaches were playing him early on in the situations they thought he could handle and that not every WR is automatically a fit for a position just because he's a physical freak of nature.

The scheme is based around reading the coverages and being in tune with the QB. I think it's safe to say that Dez's first few years he had some issues with reading the coverages, but he seemed to run the right route more often than not. The same with Tony. There were bad reads by Tony from time to time as well and the Tony supporters defended him to death.

And I think those issues for Dez have been long gone and he should have been playing more time in the slot probably over the last 4 seasons.

But we still see Garrett refusing to deviate from the gameplan even when it's clearly not working. I'm thinking Garrett felt that we beat the Giants before with Dez constantly running go routes and the surface tablet was showing that he was winning some battles and thought that eventually it would work. But he refused to deviate from the gameplan even though Dak could not deliver the ball.

If you had Romo in at QB, I could see the logic of running the go routes if you think that eventually your Pro Bowl QB will start to hit on those deep routes. But, when you have a rookie 4th rounder making his first ever start? It's time to change things up and get your star WR closer to the QB and get him in plays where he's getting open immediately instead of having to be anticipated to being open.





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Nonsense. Elite players make contested catches. Why would you look the other way because 'all receivers have drops'? Would you say the same thing about Cousins' red zone pick? I mean, all QBs throw interceptions.

That was a routine grab for Dez. He gets paid because he makes those grabs routine. He caught it, and then didn't secure it. He didn't make the play, period.

He'd be the first to tell you the same thing. Mind numbing is making excuses for the execution errors and putting the fault in not getting the players more opportunities to not make the plays that were there already.

"WR make contested catches."

Does Dez make contested catches? Yes or no?

What you're effectively saying is Dez should never drop a contested catch, or at least this one, which circles perfectly back to my original point: fans have been spoiled by Dez, hold him to ridiculous standards and speak nonsense.
 

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"WR make contested catches."

Does Dez make contested catches? Yes or no?

What you're effectively saying is Dez should never drop a contested catch, or at least this one, which circles perfectly back to my original point: fans have been spoiled by Dez, hold him to ridiculous standards and speak nonsense.

Yes. I suppose you think there's a point there.
 

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It took them this long to figure that out...this tells you everything you need to know about our coaching staff.
 

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'It’s so slowed to where you can understand the coverages and run better routes."

Love Bryant, but it's kind of crazy that he's talking about getting to a point where he understands the coverages in year 7, isn't it? I remember a time when there were raging debates about whether it was Tony throwing bad passes or Dez not making proper site adjustments (this was the *last* round of underestimating Tony if anybody's confused, not the current round where we think the rookie QB is a better player and Tony already). That's not an especial knock on Dez because he was an amazing player before he was reading the coverages properly, but it probably should open the door a crack on the idea that maybe our coaches were playing him early on in the situations they thought he could handle and that not every WR is automatically a fit for a position just because he's a physical freak of nature.


I think there's truth to the rumor that Dez is a little slow in comprehending the entire playbook in terms of pass routes.

But ... how hard is it to just give him simple slot routes? It can't be THAT difficult can it? :huh:
 

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It's amazing the ridiculous standards people have of some players. This coaching staff has done little in the way of helping this offense succeed. Thats the only thing that's undebatable.

Because it's an easy crutch to blame a player(s) for failing to make a play than it is to admit what an average coaching staff we have.

The reality is one can watch a game and see a player fail to make a clutch play but then also realize that the coaching staff didn't really help matters either.

That's what happened in Week One.
 

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I'll never forget when Roy Williams in his first year, rather first 3 weeks, called out the play calling and scheme and they asked him "how would you go bout changing that Roy" and he's like "we can start off with a slant. I mean it's a simple route, not hard to implement. " LOL

It really reminded me of when Dez only ran two slants last game.
 

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I didn't say they were imaginative with Dez. You criticized the team for 'not moving Dez around and running him from the SLOT after game 1," and I pointed out that they did, in fact, put him in the slot on the dropped TD play in game 1 and you probably missed it because you were too busy screaming from mountaintops.
This thread is not the place for facts Idgit. It has already been decided that the coaching staff didnt "move him around" and were "unimaginative."

Quit talking about his dropped td from the slot!
 

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'It’s so slowed to where you can understand the coverages and run better routes."

Love Bryant, but it's kind of crazy that he's talking about getting to a point where he understands the coverages in year 7, isn't it? I remember a time when there were raging debates about whether it was Tony throwing bad passes or Dez not making proper site adjustments (this was the *last* round of underestimating Tony if anybody's confused, not the current round where we think the rookie QB is a better player and Tony already). That's not an especial knock on Dez because he was an amazing player before he was reading the coverages properly, but it probably should open the door a crack on the idea that maybe our coaches were playing him early on in the situations they thought he could handle and that not every WR is automatically a fit for a position just because he's a physical freak of nature.
I wondered how people would try and spin this to somehow blame Dez and give the coaches a pass.
So basically they never used him in the slot because he is too stupid to learn to play in the slot over the course of 7 years.....yet somehow he figured it out enough to be very effective in 1 week.

Come on man.
 
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